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Teaching In Thailand Being a international school teacher in Thailand can be a great career with salaries in the range of $2,500 to $6,000 per month, or you could become a TEFLer teaching English with a salary range of 350-600 pounds per month, although with many teaching jobs it could be worth doing a TEFL course even if no experience is necessary, but will teaching students fulfil your overseas jobs yearnings? Is a English language teaching job something you really want to do? Can you teach English?

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Old 31-08-2008, 10:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If they were interested in making millions they should have been ... builders, teacher website owners, or computer graphic artists!
With the minimal hours required by a lot of teaching gigs over here, one can pursue other income sources at your leisure, if you so desire.

You mentioned graphic design, this is what I do. How did you know?
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25 contact hours plus the time to prepare those hours often adds up to a lot more than 40 per week. Marking, grading, lesson planning and exam setting as well as meetings and other duties is damn tiring.
It would kill you working those extended hours all year, lucky you very rarely work more than three full weeks on the trot.
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Old 31-08-2008, 11:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I didn't know. I was joking. Millionaires: Graphic design - Marmite, Teacher website - BKK Phil, Builder - DD. None of whom are millionaires.

I missed my calling tho. I love Photoshop. My son's a designer in the Sillycom Valley.

Nice to meet you. Got your work somewhere on these pages?
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Nice to meet you. Got your work somewhere on these pages?
Nope, now I specialize in corporate/enterprise intranet work, which I cannot show.

But here's some old designs from my dotcom days which are no longer online:




Thanks fer askin!
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Graphic design - Marmite
Shit! When did that happen?!
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What? You ain't?
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What? You ain't?
I can't remember ever posting that I was employed as a graphic designer. Where did I say that?
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Jese? Webpages aren't graphic design? Educate me, please.
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Jese? Webpages aren't graphic design? Educate me, please.
It's Jase.

Webdesign does have a certain amount of graphic design involved, but I really couldn't get away with calling myself a graphic designer. Then again, many could probably say the same about me being a 'webdesigner'.
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Photography was finally placed into the realm of art after about 70 years. Why wouldn't super refined mouse movement and all else involved be an art?
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Why wouldn't super refined mouse movement and all else involved be an art?
Never said it wasn't. I just said that I didn't consider myself a graphic artist.
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^ How about BS artist?
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Never said it wasn't. I just said that I didn't consider myself a graphic artist.
I label myself as a "Creative Designer". I've studied product, graphic, interior, engineering, print and web. There is deffinatly and element of graffic in web other wise all websites would look like shit.
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^Most do look like shite, and as for seo, well thats shite aswell
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^Most do look like shite, and as for seo, well thats shite aswell
Most shite websites are made by guy that can only code, which a skill in it's self that is beyond me. Most of the others are made by designers. The good ones are made by guys that can design but also realise the importance of space saving but have the eye.
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Yours is pretty good DD but I don't like the switch between black and white backgrounds. It kinda shocks me when I read a threah like this.

Also what's this 20 sec shit between posts and what's the reason? I'm sure there's a good one.
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South of the US boarder it is believed the poor guy should pay. After all it was he who kept the company of those more successful. The poor guy benefited from the experience, not the rich.
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I guess being allowed to stay in Thailand is sufficient payment.

Graduate engineers and salesmen earn more than TEFLers everywhere, so why is he so surprised about this?
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For the past few months I've been doing a little part-time work at a large recruitment company. My job involves proof-reading resumes and interviewing job applicants for 5-10 minutes to ascertain their level of English. With the better applicants, we'll chat about why they want to leave their current position, what their long-term objectives are and what kind of job they're looking for, etc. It's given me a chance to meet a lot of Thai people from all walks of life (I've probably interviewed a thousand people up to now) and of course the opportunity to find out what Thais are earning and what kind of salaries they are aiming at when they move on to the next job. It's been a real eye-opener. It's made me realise just how far behind the 30,000 baht a month teacher has been left. In the early 90's, a 30,000 baht salary more or less held it's own. It wasn't a fortune, it wasn't something you'd brag about but you never felt that The Thais were making excessively more than you did. But times have changed.

Probably 95% of the people I interview have a degree or two. 60% are female, 40% are male and I would say 50% are under 30 with those between 30 and 40 making up another 40-45%. Only a very small percentage are over 40 it seems.

At the bottom of the ladder, you have call center staff. A large bank may be looking for a hundred people to sell credit cards and loans over the phone. This is often a new graduate's first position as they get a foot on the work ladder so the average age is about 22 or 23. This job pays in the region of 12,000 baht a month with the opportunity to bump it up to about 17,000 baht with commission.

What about the higher earners?
Engineers in their 20's with often very little work experience are earning about 40-60,000 a month. Good accounting people are on about the same. Even accounting women in their 20s with the personality of a dud battery are earning 30K. Sales managers are earning 50,000 as a minimum, often much more. For those who work in the finance sector, the sky's the limit. Most are earning in excess of 50-60K and I interviewed a 32-year-old guy this week who was finance manager for a small retail chain and he was currently taking home 192K a month - AND he was looking for a job with more money and benefits.
Human resource at manager level for a decent sized company, you can virtually name your price. I haven't seen one earning less than 100K.

It's opened my eyes because I rather naively thought that all professional Thais at managerial level earned about 30-40K a month and teachers were almost but perhaps not quite on the same level.

So this is why those ads you see for 'experience the magic of Thailand' and include a teaching job as part of the package, and say that you will be earning four times the salary of a local really get on my wick.
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Oh, Farang english teachers does not earn more than Thai Managers? Damn, thats just crazy unfair!!!

And the salaries and the way Phil makes no differences between the different sectors does not make any sense either
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Oh, Farang english teachers does not earn more than Thai Managers? Damn, thats just crazy unfair!!!

And the salaries and the way Phil makes no differences between the different sectors does not make any sense either
Are you sure you're in the right area of the forum? This is the TEFLer bit and you're obviously not a teacher of English.
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