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Smeg

The only two that I can think of that ever get a hard time are T&T and TEFL Int. Faceless ones like the ECC CELTA are completely left alone, as are the little single-location ones.

Is it a coincidence that the two focused-on schools probably have the most agressive (and some might say also underhand/unpleasant/desperate) marketing, and also have outspoken representitives regularly appearing on forums?

Bruce, perhaps you could use this thread to outline why you think your place receives so much bad publicity on the internet, and whether you think your strategy of always pursuing these people and arguing with them is a sensible/beneficial one. Thanks.

dirtydog

I feel sure you will get round to them eventually

bruceveld

I have no idea.

old Camel Toe says I am always everywhere selling. I dont think I have participated in a thread selling anything for along, long time. I have been fored to defend our coruses against lies and utter crap. That mainly seems to come from idiots and only very rarely from an actual dissatisfied customer.

Honestly, Smeg, give me an example of underhand/unpleasant/desperate marketing. Please.

Reaper

Smeg, you might want to consider the fact that the first two, training is the core of their income compared to say ECC. This would mean that they train more people and hence there is more likelihood that people would take swipes at them.

The leaves highest in the TEFL tree gets the most wind.

Thormaturge

Considering much of it comes from you, I'm surprised you don't know why you are writing it.

good2bhappy

like a terrier with a rat.
Can't(won't) let go.

Camel Toe

There is truth to that. Don't know about the rest of you but some of us believe how a leaf gets to the top says more about the leaf than the praise that should come for his being at the top.

If you have a useful product sold at a far price, and if that product serves the buyer well, who on Earth is going to complain?

Phat Bruce, we go back about five years, we've never met, I've never done business with you, and you surly wouldn't remember me, but I remember you.

Two of your personal features are clear to me: The language you use with the phrasing you employ to make your point shows you have the idea the World is full of stupid people, or that you have been in the company of stupid people for a very long time. 2) Your constant bickering that has been going on for so many years with all your accusers shows you are so convinced of your innocence you give the glow of a spoiled child.

Please remember most of the folks you meet up with on these forums have long passed graduated from high school. Up your game, willya?

Allow me to give you an example of the lowest form of human life on the planet but who has mastered the art of marketing. His name is Karl Mark Maddox. Search him and you'll see links to books he has written about God, and children stories, and see all his self-written book reviews in the names of scores of happy buyers. Go back to google then scroll down till you see an FBI Most Wanted site. There he is! Skipped bail on child molestation charges .. his own daughter!

I met this guy when I lived in Mexico, I rented a house from him. He lived with a girlfriend who had four daughters, four unhappy-looking daughters.

He gave me a copy of his first book, it had 14 grammatical errors on the first two pages. The book sold 800,000 copies. People by the scores wrote negative reviews but most of them were deleted quickly by Amazon and two other of the big book sellers on the web.

After a year or so people started writing in and saying, Hey, this guy is a wanted child molester! They were quickly deleted. I wrote to Barnes and Noble as pleaded with them to at least search his name. There was no reply, book still for sale.

No way you're a child molester Phat Bruce, but you have mastered some of arts Karl Mark Maddox has.

Marmite the Dog

I think you should get an award for the most tenuous link. I can't believe you were sober when you posted this crap. Pathetic.

Are you Smeg's brother?

Camel Toe

Are you one of Bruce's investors?

Look, Bruce has a huge banner on Dave's. Dave must think that's okay by me. Every thread with the mention of Bruce's school in negative terms is locked, locked with Bruce's defense being the last post.

Isn't there a parallel between the Dave's thing and B&N, Amazon of a few others deleting reviews of a horrible book that happens to be for sale on their website?

I don't know shite about Bruce's product as it compares to the others. I don't even dislike the bloke. What bothers me is what bothers a lot of people nowadays: Money is the most important thing in life. Those with money can lie and cheat the public because they've already bought the ticket to their defense.

And some of you guys like to put Bangkok Phil down?

pai nai ma

^ scintillating post.

Camel Toe

Oh, here comes Smiley/Long the anti-DD IP locater software sniffing dog agreeing with anyone with high greenage.

pai nai ma

never assume.

ChiangMai noon

^
may I assume that you are an obsidian nik that seems to have undergone a very minor character transition??

if so, why not use the watdog name, i believe he's still allowed.

jandajoy

definately Obsidian.

Camel Toe

Do you really think that's watdog? Wat invited to BKK to work with him last year. I doubt he'd follow me around two forums trolling with wank-smiles and all. But then maybe you have resources and/or intuition I don't.

pai nai ma

pure projection.

pai nai ma

Sometimes we want to fight so bad we see enemies in the faces of our friends.

mai pen rai.

Thormaturge

...and anybody with a computer can register anonymously and post shite.

Unless any evidence is produced to substantiate allegations a well-run forum will remove them.

Camel Toe

So the anti-Bruce crusade is a one-man crusade?

pai nai ma

Old hat, it is.

Bruce/whitey need each other.