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dirtydog

smeggy, you promised you was coming down to Jomtien months ago, you only have yourself to blame, anyway sitting in on the end class would have been the perfect oppurtunity for you, damn Bruce was even going to pay you to evaluate the class, he can't get fairer than that, can he?

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bruceveld

Yeah SURE. he's just another completely impartial (and anonymous) person on the internet who hates me for absolutely no reason but because I am a jerk......

Smeg

A plan isn't a promise, and this was my PM to you back in January, mentioning a plan which subsequently had to be changed.

" I'm planning on spending a few long weekends in Jomtien next month. Will you be there?

It was fair, but I wasn't interested. If you can find one post on here prior to my unannounced visit where I criticised or even mentioned one of Bruce's classes, then I'll be very surprised. I have no interest in the classes, hence do not talk about them and have no interest in assessing them. The marketing is another issue, and that is the thing I used to focus on all those years ago.

Chairman Mao

You mean he might actually be inspiring to his trainees instead of just standing there scratching his balls as he always does, simply coz you were there. Or maybe he was going to bribe them and pre-teach some superlatives for them to feed you. lol

bruceveld

I must disagree. if you read complaints from real students you will see that we are constantly accepting criticism and making changed. The difference is i do not feel critics who have never taken our course are very legitimate, especially when their criticisms are extremely general and never specific issues which could be addressed and changed.

Can you base that on ANY real information?

I think everyone would agree that a video would be a great record to ensure accuracy. What else am i going to use it for?

bruceveld

OK, enighten us. Exactly how is the marketing an issue?

I really believe you confuse us with one of our old competitors...

Chairman Mao

Hang on! a minute ago it 'had the air of a set up' now you feel 'it was fair.'

You're just contradicting yourself son. Which was it? Did it feel 'fair' to you, or 'feel like a set up', surely it can't be both.

Can it?

Smeg

Like I said, its how you come across to me. Are you (in your typical manner) going to try to stamp on my right to form and state an opinion?

Ask OFSTED if they feel the need to have their school inspectors videod. Home

Why try to get someone you think this about
to assess you?

If that isn't fishy behaviour, I don't know what is.

Good night.

Camel Toe

The pleasure is all mine, mate. Should you know I have been reading here for 2 years, never really posted much. A few months ago I got three invitations for three TD members to join in. I believe at least two of them are mods. If at any time you see me as unfit all you have to do is say so. Cheers.

bruceveld

Lol Smeg don't run away.

you can have all the opinions you want. But when you publicly call someone as being untrustworthy, its kind of insulting. And when I ask for a reason, you ran away. OK, calling me untrustworthy is not the end of the world to me, but it would have more force if you had a reason, instead of just your intuition. But at least you admit there is no substance to your opinion and I do appreciate that.

bruceveld

CAN I VOTE CAN I VOTE?

To me he is just a troll, and I thought is pedophile post was about as dirty as they come...

But I suggest renaming him "Freak", not banning him. lol

Camel Toe

What I mean is that all I have in the way of TESL is a certificate from an American uni that gave our Mexican uni teachers a 40-hour course. That was a looong time ago.

I've been showing that paper in Thailand for 7 years now, never been questioned once, have worked in universities mostly for 2 1/2 decades, started doing kids two years ago. I am probably older than any teacher you know.

The truth is I have had, all in all, 230 hours of seminars, all but one of the certificates is written in foreign languages. Didn't learn much though, came into the job already prepared, pretty much. In China I lectured in TESL methodology, and without a TESL certificate.

You seem like a good bloke, nice to meet you.

Camel Toe

Please call me untrustworthy. Better than troll and stupid and all the rest. I see you haven't played the drunkard card on me but once. That's good, I don't drink.

Camel Toe

Bye, good luck to you.

Chairman Mao

And you.

I think a tefler's attitude and aptitude is most important, especially when learning the art of teaching. I have 3 certs, a tesol and 2 tefls, not a lot but after each year I want to improve myself as that is always possible no matter what the field so continue to train, and will in the future. I work with a teacher with 6 years experience with a BA in Ed. and I gain by far the more praise from the school, and if the new teachers who come in are a bit off they're asked to observe my lessons. If I had kids I wouldn't let half the people I work with converse with them, never mind try to educate them. It's just the way it is here I guess.

What are we on about again? Oh yeah Smeg. Guess he must be have gone evaluating something.

Camel Toe

My mom and dad were both teachers and I was their center of attention, and experiential lab rat too I recon. It all came easy to me.

In uni I'd take note of the prof's style and delivery more than most students.

I like to read and TESL info is aplenty on the I. Fact is what bothers me the most about TESL is there is nothing new in teaching, not really. This science was pretty much sussed out a long time ago. What TESL often do is take an old idea, put a new name on it and sell it as if it were a new and exciting concept.

At the aforementioned TESL 40-hour seminar the instructors were great. We reviewed all known teaching/learning theories to a small degree and then each group would employ one of the 15 or so as a demo so we could asses their shortcomings and benefits. I enjoyed that, it was fast-moving and had appeal to someone with more experience. All the rest of the seminars were sleepers.

Don't use what I know too much these days. I'm kinda like a grandpa playing with kids and letting them pull the hairs in my ears and shit like that. Our director is cool. My job is to "dexenophobisize" the kids and be a friend to them. I like that idea. They already have two Thai English teachers per week. I just enforce what they get from them and have fun with it. I love it, as you can probably tell.

CSFFan

Wow! I'm really impressed! I have two ingrown toe nails and on nasty set of hemorroids

Smeg

This reply alone suggests that you are a situation-twisting shmuck, by claiming that someone that says good night is running away. I intended to sleep over an hour ago, but I will admit that your taunts prevented that.
I'm sure that you are very proud of your marketing master's degree or thereabouts that you have, but if the main skill you learned on it was to twist situations to your favour (lets face it, that is what marketing is all about) then i feel very sorry for you.

I couldn't give a shit if you feel insulted by my opinion. Sue me, you pompous arsehole. You appear as a very insecure person for admitting feeling insulted by opinions on an internet forum, and even more so for repeating this "running away" claim.

The fact that you also try to make out that my opinion is somehow stating a fact and thus breaking a libel law by twisting what i wrote
into further demonstrates either your devious desperation or your stupidity.

I'd like to clarify one issue. When people criticise your organisation on forums, you jump all over them to shut them up. Now, I have made it very clear in this thread, several times, that I am not interested in using it to open old arguments from 5-6 years ago with you, but twice you have asked me to explain my marketing opinions from back then. So, you try to smother critics, and try to motivate people to criticise who don't actually want to criticise!!!!! This leads to the obvious conclusion that you are an attention freak, dead-set on using either criticism or the absense of criticism to your favour.

I am disgusted. If this is the ethical depths that people trying to build a dominant organisation adopt, then I'm very happy to have never tried.

Smeg

I'm not the one with the master's degree in marketing who thinks that he is clever enough to twist critics into bogeymen.