Why do one or two Thailand TEFL schools get so much negative press on the internet?

**dirtydog** · 26-08-2008, 03:29 AM

Can't you sleep smeagle

**Accidental Ajarn** · 26-08-2008, 08:20 AM

Smeg

Why do you care?

Aren't you the guy who left Thailand to live the high life as a Tefler in some small town in someplace no one has ever heard of in England?

Why the obsession with the TEFL industry in Thailand?

If you don't like Bruce's courses, don't take them. Why the hero complex? Who gave you the mandate to decide what is of value to others?

What do you hope to accomplish with your crusade?

Whatever is driving your obsession, I recommend you get it over it and get a life.

**kingwilly** · 26-08-2008, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn

Why the hero complex? Who gave you the mandate to decide what is of value to others?

Ironic words coming from you.

**bruceveld** · 26-08-2008, 09:48 AM

LOL wow I guess we hit a nerve on poor Smeggy!

Come on Smeg, its not all bad.

The thing I can never understand is all the general claims that our marketing is dishonest or that we trist the truth.

I have said this many times... GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE!!!

the only things people have ever come up with are:

1. We have many websites. My question is WHO CARES? Is the info on these sites different or somehow deceiving?

2. We market Training + Jobs programs on Jobs boards.

THATS IT. For someone as "desperate" as we are, we should be able to be more devious than THAT.... lol

**Sir Burr** · 26-08-2008, 10:25 AM

This thread seems to be a clone of another thread (the name escapes me).

**Topper** · 26-08-2008, 12:46 PM

Or even another forum...what was that forum's name again???

**Chairman Mao** · 26-08-2008, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

I have 3 certs, a tesol and 2 tefls,

Wow! I'm really impressed!

Why? It's not a lot.

Which was actually the following sentence. Oh right, irony.

And Smeg mate, thanks again. your 1 am 1.01 am and 2.13 am replies really cracked me up. The levels of hate and obsession you harbour really are quite hilarious. Thanks man. think I gotta load up before I can send on more green.

**Accidental Ajarn** · 26-08-2008, 03:57 PM

"Ironic words coming from you."

Hey, KW, I see you are still stalking. Thanks for the red, can I have another?

**Smeg** · 26-08-2008, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by bruceveld

The thing I can never understand is all the general claims that our marketing is dishonest or that we trist the truth.

I have said this many times... GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE!!!

We spent a few months going over and over it back in 2002. Why the need to rehash it? You dismissed absolutely everything I said back then, and will again, so your request isn't open and genuine.

Please explain why, on the one hand, you want to shut people up from criticising, then when they do, you ask them over and over again to start writing the criticisms again! Are you trying to bait people into defaming you so you can start some wonderful course case against your scapegoat to scare other people into shutting up?

**dirtydog** · 26-08-2008, 07:08 PM

smeg, armed and dangerous tefl students are following you around, it is not paranoia

**Smeg** · 26-08-2008, 07:11 PM

^ Well, what is the guy like! Using his real name on forums, arguing with people about his business, asking me to go to his school so he can video me, asking me to criticise him etc etc. Its pure kurayzeeness

**dirtydog** · 26-08-2008, 07:22 PM

smeg, he has built a succesfull business, albeit by devious means because he has a degree in making businesses and people with degrees in their chosen field have an unfair advantage over ex milkman and factory workers who are the TEFLers of the future, so yes he evilly used his knowledge to set up a successfull business, I for one agree that he should probably be burnt at the stake, after he has been tortured enough though, hell, he probably ties up people that come to his schools and ask questions about the course untill they agree to take the course, I also heard that the people that refuse his course also have to give him their first born as a sacrifice, damn, he is the devil himself.

**Camel Toe** · 26-08-2008, 07:37 PM

Oddly this thread has the same post count as the "riot going on in Bangkok" thread.

**Smeg** · 26-08-2008, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

smeg, he has built a succesfull business.

If that is the case (and not just self-serving hype) I'd be pretty pissed if I were one of his kids and he was only willing to spend 80 bucks per month on my education

**bruceveld** · 26-08-2008, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

Originally Posted by bruceveld

The thing I can never understand is all the general claims that our marketing is dishonest or that we trist the truth.

I have said this many times... GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE!!!

We spent a few months going over and over it back in 2002. Why the need to rehash it? You dismissed absolutely everything I said back then, and will again, so your request isn't open and genuine.

Please explain why, on the one hand, you want to shut people up from criticising, then when they do, you ask them over and over again to start writing the criticisms again! Are you trying to bait people into defaming you so you can start some wonderful course case against your scapegoat to scare other people into shutting up?

There is a place for you in Stand Up Comedy....

lol

**bruceveld** · 26-08-2008, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

Originally Posted by dirtydog

smeg, he has built a succesfull business.

If that is the case (and not just self-serving hype) I'd be pretty pissed if I were one of his kids and he was only willing to spend 80 bucks per month on my education

LOL yeah my kids hate me. As I type this they are all here. my two sons ans I just got back from basketball--we play with the local adults every day I am not traveling. We have seen pretty much every movie in the last 10 years together and we also like playing Wii.

Every year each of my kids takes one international trip with me. A great week to spend a lot of time with just one of them. My oldest went to India and the middle kid went to Korea so far this year.

My oldest takes private guitar lessons and group Tai Kwan Do, middle one takes drum lessons, my daughter is going to take ballet and singing lessons in October.

My point here is everyone has limited resourses. You might just find you can spend that International School money on other special training.

My oldest son went to BKK last year as an M1 student because he won the provincial English Quiz competition against all kids M1 to M6. He is also the only M2 student to make his Matayom basketball team (school of 4,000). He does not play a lot but his team just won the provincial tournament. He is probably already as good as I am if not better.

My middle son, in 4th grade, was the best kid in his school in the US in Math. better than the 5th and 6th graders too.

Lol. poor kids.

BTW, I bet each of them could kick your ass, Smeg. Even my daughter and she is 10!

**Chairman Mao** · 26-08-2008, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

I'd be pretty pissed if I were one of his kids and he was only willing to spend 80 bucks per month on my education

After trying to defame a guy's business unsuccessfully, make yourself look mentally unstable, again, go for the 'how bad a parent he is to his kids' line of attack.

Another show of pure class smegly.

**dirtydog** · 26-08-2008, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by bruceveld

My oldest son went to BKK last year as an M1 student because he won the provincial English Quiz competition against all kids M1 to M6.

cnut, my son came second and he can't even speak English, well barely, but he did come second in the Thai art competition for thailand.

**bruceveld** · 26-08-2008, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Originally Posted by bruceveld

My oldest son went to BKK last year as an M1 student because he won the provincial English Quiz competition against all kids M1 to M6.

cnut, my son came second and he can't even speak English, well barely, but he did come second in the Thai art competition for thailand.

Lol

Well the thing that I was happy about was it was a quiz contest where they asked questions about all subjects, in English. I mean if he won the speach competition, where all he had to do is speak English well, its not really a fair competition....

Anyway your kid's in Chon, we are in Rayong.

**dirtydog** · 26-08-2008, 10:04 PM

he came second in the all schools thing I think, got to admit I don't take much notice of all that education rubbish, it's only Thailand so don't mean a lot in the real world, but the art thing was second out of the whole of thailand so thats pretty good, assume the guy that came first paid for it I suppose, anyway is it true that you kidnap the first born of any people that don't sign up for your course and then bbq and eat them?

**bruceveld** · 26-08-2008, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

he came second in the all schools thing I think, got to admit I don't take much notice of all that education rubbish, it's only Thailand so don't mean a lot in the real world, but the art thing was second out of the whole of thailand so thats pretty good, assume the guy that came first paid for it I suppose, anyw

the art thing is very cool. if there is one thing I SUCK at its art.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

is it true that you kidnap the first born of any people that don't sign up for your course and then bbq and eat them?

I certainly do NOT eat them. I feed them to our students! lol

**dirtydog** · 26-08-2008, 10:22 PM

smeggy smeggy come quick, Bruce admits to kidnapping and torture and feeding babies to his students, you were right all along smeagle, he is the devil, wonder what sauce he uses for bbqing the babies....

**bruceveld** · 26-08-2008, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

smeggy smeggy come quick, Bruce admits to kidnapping and torture and feeding babies to his students, you were right all along smeagle, he is the devil, wonder what sauce he uses for bbqing the babies....

We make our own.

**dirtydog** · 26-08-2008, 10:35 PM

I have also heard that Bruce's place is American owned, rumour has it that they hold guns to the heads of the slower students to get them to concerntrate, maybe an idea for the Thai schools....

**Topper** · 27-08-2008, 12:34 PM

I heard that Bruce is American....the shame, the shame!!!!!

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