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bruceveld

"Do you deny" that you would not have the same issues with some unknown poster?

"Do you deny" that you make it your personal (kinda sick) passtime to harass TESOL course providers?

No need to answer, we already know.....

Camel Toe

So Bruise, how did you pull off a dual citizenship?

Indoexile

erm this was mentioned before as a reason that a local school it better than a good international one.

the drug problems they face are not because of the school, got more to do with the kids already going there.

bruceveld

Do you want a real answer or are you just here being a dick?

Smeg

Here is a request to do something that you more than most hate to do, Bruce. Make this thread fully informative by giving a balanced review of your actions and tell us the downsides, as you see them.

I had to step in to play devil's advocate because as usual you only tell one side of the story (the side that makes you look so clever)

Camel Toe

A real answer, please. And include the Jewish Defense thing if you wish. I want to know all about you.

bruceveld

you are absolutely right, Indo. Its not lSB is handing out the drugs! But many students at international schools have a lot of disposable income and are relatively unsupervised.

I don't care whose fault it is. As a parent it is my job to protect my children from situations they are too young to handle. And as someone who did have a drug problem at 13 (thats another story) I would worry about the amount of drugs that are being used at these international schools and if my child fell into the wrong crowd.

bruceveld

So far, for my kids, it seems to have worked great. But how can you really know? They are happy, intelligent and relate well to other children and to adults. is this IN SPITE OF their schooling or BECAUSE OF it? How can I really know?

Indoexile

exactly, naught to do with the school.

erm, I think you'll find that they arent using the drugs AT school.

and are you saying that poorer schools dont have drug problems?

naive comment if so.

just the richer kids can afford to play with more expensive drugs, aint any safer or better really.

Smeg

^^ What is "intelligence"? Skills, knowledge, or common sense?

Anyway, your tale is an interesting case study. How old are they now?

Indoexile

BTW - if you found a well qualified/experienced teacher to do this job, are you able to give them a work permit for this job?

bruceveld

Jewish Defense thing? NO IDEA.

All Americans living abroad who have children can submit a form called something like "American Birth Abroad". you submit that along with your passport and the birth cirtificate to the embassy. They usually interview you, too. If everything seems legit they issue a passport. The children are NOT naturalized. they aare US citizens from birth, just born abroad.

Smeg

^^ A good point. Bruce has already stated that this is illegal (i presume the not attending school issue). It doesn't, to me, show a good role model, which is an important part of education, by breaking the law to provide the education itself.

bruceveld

I have been in thailand for 12 years now and I can say for a certainty that kids at international schools use far more drugs than kids at a typical provincial Thai school. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind.

bruceveld

13, 11 and 10

I anticipate they will do more out-of-school reading on their own and do less home schooling (if any) once they pass M3.

Indoexile

based on what data?

bruceveld

Well for us we could sponsor them through our school. But obviously those who do not have schools would need to consider other options. Lots of free lancers out there.

bruceveld

lol yeah its better to follow the law (IN THAILAND LMAO) instead of providing a good education for your kids.

Its the law that all kids must attend school until they are M6 according to the new constitution. But we (obviously) hae a lot of friends and acquaintences at the MOE. they met our kids. We told them what we were doing. We were certainly not hiding it. They are well aware that home schooling in the US is huge (with up to 4 million kids home schooling now) and they asked a lot of questions but were not concerned in the least. Some even asked jokingly if their kids could study with ours!

Indoexile

would that be within the terms of the work permit?

pretty sure most people do not own their own schools here matey.

yes, they are all down sukhumvit road of an evening, they aint gonna be much good teaching though, same as many of your TEFL'rs'

(and apologies to the ones that actually do a good job)

dirtydog

Pretty sure that would come down to the Thai labour dept kingwilly, doubt if Bruce can give out work permits, although obviously he does have to supply the paper work for the person to obtain a work permit.