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hillbilly

Very seldom do I do the MicroSoft and paste thingy. Enjoy...

kingwilly

depends on the school, there is no set standard.

Usually get something in terms of increase with inflation (if 3% is somehow related to 6/7% inflation rate) plus an increment up to a limit, again actual amounts, and top level varies from school to school.

In real terms, my pay had dropped almost 20% in the past year.

(damn useless US$)

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Accidental Ajarn

I am not sure why some posters here feel the need to denigrate those who chose a teaching career because of the relatively low salary.

Teaching is not generally a high paid position anywhere in the world. Does that make it a poor career decision?

There are a few hundred teachers in Thailand making above 100K and tens of thousands making far less. So what? Is teaching kids of the rich the only teaching occupation that is worthwhile?

If some individuals find teaching for 35, 40 or 50 K or baht (or even less) a month fits their needs, good for them.

I assume some posters have such low self-esteems that they have a compulsion to seek out others to criticize in order to make themselves appear more successful.

Screw that, live and let live.

I recently left an expat management job to return to “teaching.” Although I obviously took a pay cut (but I do make more than an average TEFL teacher), it was a good decision. I love what I do and the life is pretty stress-free. I wouldn’t make the claim that teaching is for everyone, but for those of us who have made the choice are not inferior to those who have different options and have made different choices.

Sir Burr

I think the denigration is against the TEFLers that only turn to teaching to be able to stay in the country. The ones who buy there degrees, arrive in the mornings with hang-overs and try and shag their students.

Accidental Ajarn

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Are teachers the only foreigners who want to live in the country, drink and attempt to have relationships with the locals?

I don't see the benefit of being so judgmental, but maybe you can enlighten me?.

NickA

^a fake degree is illegal, having relationships with students is either illegal or immoral (depending on age), going to school with a hangover is irresponsible.

Sir Burr

Thanks NickA. Thought it would be obvious to everybody.......seems not.

good2bhappy

I must say that I have found teaching rewarding.
I never entered into teaching for the money, but to give structure to my life, meet people and do a job that I felt was giving something back to society.

AntRobertson

I'm all for paying teachers a good salary, even over the odds, if it means attracting good teachers. I don't think you can or should put a price on a good education and obviously the quality of the teacher is a huge part of this.

I also have a lot of respect for dedicated career teachers. All those holidays be damned, it's sure as hell not something I could do.

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gamerdude

Problem is, most people talk crap about all TEFL teachers as if they are all like this. "TEFL scum" is a quality example of how they're often referred to.

This is just typical sterotyping, like saying all thai women are just whores. It is that degrading.

I've met good and bad TEFL grads, its a shame they all have to be lumped together as bad by some people.

mad_dog

I'm heading back to do my PGCE next September but all the "hiso" students I have come across were the worst snivelling, arrogant, little shits imaginable. So I probably wont teach at an International school in Thailand.

kingwilly

dunno, I think that's another sweeping generalization of a stereotype ......

nearly all the wealthy students I've taught, have actually been fantastically nice and extremely nice students.

Smeg

Why not go this september as a remedy for your current boredom?

What percentage of your 20,000 posts point out other people's generalisations? Are you the generalisation police or summit?

Rigger

Most are a little foked up in the head and dont have two cents to rub together, and tend to hang around corner shops and drink cheap chang, not that I see anything wrong with that but I can see where the label TEFL scum comes from.
Some TEFL I have met have been good at what they do and have a natural talent and passion for teaching others are just buying time and scapping by as TEFL scum until the final day when they will have to go back to there own country broke with a drink problem and a few STD,s.
Lets face most of the TEFL here are of the sorriest looking cnuts I have ever seen.
I dont label all TEFL as scum but just most of them

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Boon Mee

^ Yeah - they need to get a real job like on an Oil Rig and be productive members of society. Don't hear 'bout no John Mark Carr's in the 'Patch', eh?

kingwilly

hah, come on smeg, you can do better. possibly 20 posts out of 20,000..... 0.1 % aint a lot.

ha. cos i've worked with these hiso kids, and they are generally very polite and friendly kids. But over on Ajarn quite a large number of posters dismiss the international schools as being full of rich snotty nosed kids.... aint my experience at all, I wonder if it's a justification for making them feel better about working for 40K baht p/m....

I mention it cos i think it is worth maddog looking at that as a job option, not dismissing it since somebody on Ajarn told him all rich kids are shite.

extras

I can only quote my ex, he said most of the kids at Harrow were all right. Of course you got a few naughty ones just like everywhere else, but in general, they were ok. It's some of the teachers that were bullies/twats.

Rigger

Yeh normaly except the time our companys man of the years was arressted for being a serial rapist

NickA

^Did he get caught with cornflakes on his nob?

mad_dog

I think it is too late to go through clearing now. Uni starts in October but teaching colleges follow the standard academic year... I think...

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