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kingwilly

flaming in newbies threads, jail term i think!

NickA

^it would be..... if this WAS a newbie thread.

Moron

geoff

I can't believe all you morons who correspond with, and are members of TD. You can't get jobs in your own country, so you come to Thailand, where you masquerade as teachers,


**the rest of his crap has been deleted. Why? I hit the wrong fucking button. Regardless, he/she/it can post again. My apologies...***

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NickA

^think you're in the wrong place, try ajarn dot com

kingwilly

or thai visa.

Marmite the Dog

Is that similar to a "know nothing"?

Yes they do.

I am actually.

Win what?

It's easy to get a job in the UK.

Just as we put up with yours.

Mr Pot

Qiute the contrary

Listen, why don't you try fuck off you git and troll ajarn forums

Dickhead

baldrick

this is the best bit out of this thread

DaveRobin

Is this a new dialect of English, or are you just an uneducated dumb fuk?

geoff

You all rose to the bait then. What a bunch of dummies you are. I just can't believe it. Made my day.

Plan B

^ It's the old "Ha ha, I was only joshing" trick and we all fell for it. Gee aren't we all really stupid.

Sarcastic

Told Stool

I've never had anything to do with the ajarn.com site itself. I know little if nothing about it. For the latest news, I prefer reading another source.

Accidental Ajarn

Steve's writing makes him come off as a serious nutcase. His writing is so whiny, he thinks everyone is wrong except himself. He also takes himself way too seriously. Come on, Steve is an ESL teacher, nothing wrong with being an ESL teacher, but what makes anyone think he knows enough about the industry and the meaning of life to make intellegent comments on these subjects?

So he got fired from AUA (which is not easy), he still found another land to pursue his "profession" in.

I don't know the guy, but his writings come off as those of one who can not be bothered with critical thinking. Of what I have read, all his arguments has huge holes in them.

Typical TEFLER?

But, he does deserve credit for having enough nads to attempt to be a writer.

Something I can relate to.

kingwilly

so you agree or you disagree with him?

anyway, give us some examples...

Accidental Ajarn

KW

I hadn’t read any thing Steve has written for awhile, always felt like it was like poking at that sore tooth. You know reading Steve’s stuff is going to be painful, but you can’t help doing it. So I revisited some of his “gems’

“Inherent in the flame of hope is the profound belief that we EFL teachers can alter the course of human history simply by sharing ourselves with others.”

http://www.ajarn.com/Contris/schertzerdecember2005.htm

WFT!!

Students come to an ESL class to learn English, not to be taught the secrets of life by Steve or other life gurus posing as English teachers. Sorry, Steve, you ain’t that special and your job is to teach English and not change the world.

“There is one guy on who uses his real name. Steve Schertzer. What an asshole. He claims to be so much better than everybody else. He keeps talking about responsibility and how teachers should be professional and more dedicated. Screw him! Who does he think he is anyway, Mother Teresa? Anyway, this Steve Schertzer guy, (if that's is his real name), has been known to write columns for the Korea Times, a real pro-foreigner newspaper if I ever read one. He goes on and on about how most native English teachers in Korea, (and elsewhere), are scum; little more than losers and social misfits who probably couldn't get a job stuffing envelopes in the North Pole. What a monkey! What a buffoon! He claims that he uses a teaching method that guarantees results, and that his students learn English so much faster than everyone else. What a moron!”

http://www.ajarn.com/Contris/schertzerjune2007.htm

I guess Steve is trying to highlight his professionalism here. Really amateur stuff, professional writers know the subject takes central stage in an article, not the personal life of the writer. But for Steve, it is all about Steve, and all others are wrong.

“All of us have left our homeland to come to your country to teach English, a language that is needed if Thailand is to compete in a very competitive and globalized world. In case you haven't noticed, Sir, it's not easy to leave one's home, to travel to a distant land, and to live and work in an unfamiliar place. So respect is due to us teachers,”

http://www.ajarn.com/Contris/schertzerjuly2006.htm

Give me a break! Oh the ESL teachers as martyr coming to Asia to save the blind and ignorant locals from their pagan ways. What a load of horse hockey pucks. ESL teachers are like everyone else, they choose to teach because they feel it is their best career option, not because of a calling to spread the knowledge of the language of the US and UK to the ignorant masses.


The entire history of English teaching in Korea has been one long act of religious, cultural, and economic imperialism.... isn't it at least time for teachers to be honest and up front about what they are teaching, and why? Instead of embedding things within and beneath the surface of "appropriate" materials?"

http://www.ajarn.com/Contris/schertzermay2008.htm

Hypocrite, after years of writing about the specialness of ESL teacher, he now tries to do a complete 180 and claim ESL teachers shouldn’t be changing everyone’s life. Or is it only to change people to have the same views as STEVE? What a load of nonsense.

Ok, saying all that, give the boy some credit. He deserves credit for having the nads to make public his thoughts (no matter how ill-formed and poorly presented) and while he is misguided in my opinion, I do suspect he believes he is trying to make a positive “difference.”

Accidental Ajarn

Reading STEVE'S gems is strangely addicting.

“I just finished reading an article in the Nation newspaper about the Thailand TESOL Conference which took place in Bangkok on January 20th, 2005.

I try not to attend these conferences. One reason is that I'm usually busy teaching. Another reason is that they are usually sponsored and run by self-centered, pompous, and arrogant buffoons who have been out of the classroom far too long to have anything worthwhile to share.”

http://www.ajarn.com/Contris/schertzerfebruary2005.htm

So Steve has no respect for any aspects of ESL “academia.” Why should he, Steve knows it all already!

“Mass tourism is one of the worst things that has ever happened to Thailand. I make this bold statement because of two stories I recently read in the Nation newspaper here in Bangkok.”

http://www.ajarn.com/Contris/schertzerjune2005.htm

Now, for making sweeping generalizations based on very little evidence, Steve has got it down. Let us hope he does not attempt to teach research methodology or critical thinking skills.

“One needs only to peruse the ajarn.com forum, or any of the other teacher's websites from Dave's ESL Cafe to pusanweb.com in Korea, to come face-to-face, or computer terminal to computer terminal with the biggest and loudest bunch of educational buffoons, social losers, sexual creeps, and degenerate drunks in all of cyberspace. These whining weasels, who have the audacity to pass themselves off as English teachers, possess not an ounce of responsibility as they take it upon themselves to endlessly pontificate about the integrity of the educational system.”

http://www.ajarn.com/Contris/schertzerdecember2006.htm

Seems, Steve is trying to say he is more professional than most ESL teachers? What evidence does he have of his superiority? From reading his ill-conceived articles, I have a hard time buying into the Steve is superior paradigm.

“The immaturity and lack of leadership among foreign English teachers here in Korea never ceases to amuse and amaze me.”

http://www.ajarn.com/Contris/schertzermarch2007.htm

Again, this seems to be nothing more than a Steve is better than those around him rant. Still haven’t seen any evidence for me to buy into his claims of professional superiority.

“Few things upset me more in this profession than lenient teachers; teachers with no goals, no rules, no guidelines, and no responsibility. Teachers who so readily lower the bar. Teachers who are afraid to teach and who just want to be liked by the children.”
http://www.ajarn.com/Contris/schertzerjanuary2008.htm

Who cares what the children, parents or other educators think, Steve knows the method to be used for all kids.


We have all heard that old saying that it is better to remain silent and have others think one is stupid rather than opening one’s mouth and removing all doubt. Steve has removed all doubt about his writing skills and critical thinking abilities.