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Sir Burr

Boon Mee? Rigger? Are you laughing up your sleeves?

dirtydog

Won't be no oil soon, so you lot will be stuck on the top of the trash heap of unemployables

Sir Burr

^
We could always fall back on teaching English.
Have a Chrismas greenie for that, DD.

dirtydog

anyway, if the tree huggers get into power you lot will be the first up against the wall, probably best if you make a note of that guys email addy who is selling the fake degrees, I mean it aint like you lot are gonna be able to get real ones anyway for when you start work at "mom and pops engrish teeching skool"

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kingwilly

i agree!

mind u my US$ salary means i've 'lost' about 20% of my salary over the last couple of months....

Agent_Smith

Read in the paper that many expats are demanding to be paid in another currency, mostly Euros, or some kind of compensation at the end of the year for devaluation. Do you have that option?

dirtydog

Do you think I should add to this?

Teaching in Thailand can be a great career with salaries in the range of $2,500 to $6,000 per month, most teachers here have maids and drivers and that to help them in daily life and look after their every need, many taking month long vacations to the best countries in the world to eat the finest foods and drink at high end quality wine bars, or you could become a tefler and enjoy 4 baht bus rides, eating at roadside stalls, and yes it is possible to live quite a happy life in a 3 meter by 3 meter room without windows, and you will soon enjoy the medical benifits of using a squat toilet and cold showers

ChiangMai noon

^

go on then.

kingwilly

nope

33% local currency

66% US $.

may not stay at same job very much longer w/o a substantial increase in salary to compensate.

kingwilly

most teachers dont have drivers in thailand, although some do.

it is possible in many other countries.

CSFFan

I had a coteacher tell me that he read in the BKK Post that the BMA was wanting to raise salaries for foriegn teachers from 400B/hr on average to 1500B/hr.

When I got done laughing he swore it was true. What have you heard?

good2bhappy

I heard of a 5k an hour job teaching English to doctors in a private hospital. 20 hours a week. Intense 4 week course. Thats only 400k a month!

Accidental Ajarn

I lucked out and had my contract in Euros, boss asked if I wanted to change and I said no way.

6,000 dollars a month teaching in Thailand?

Dreaming.

That is a full professor (not assistant not associate) professor wage in the West. There may be a couple of professor at AIT getting that, but no where else. Maybe the top administrators at NIST or ISB get that amount, but not teachers.

Silly notion that some people make three times the market rate.

Few teachers with under 30 years senority get close to that number in the USA or UK. Why would schools in Thailand pay more?

hillbilly

You guys better look at some of the top international schools and what they pay their teachers drafted from abroad.

ISB, RIS, NIST, Shrewsbury Bangkok Pattana and Harrow for example.

These people ain't losing money by being in the LOS.

dirtydog

Thats only 192,000baht per month, most professional jobs in Thailand start at 150,000baht per month, yes professional jobs, not 1 week course TEFLers

In Pattaya the international schools start their salaries around 90,000baht per month, hell I know Teflers that are clearing 50k baht a month in Pattaya just from doing the course and buying a fake degree, so it aint hard.

Fabian

And then there is Ramkanghaeng university looking for someone teaching german with at least master degree, preferably with a Ph.D, for the princely sum of 26,000 per month.

Mister Fixit

Now that's closer to what's REALLY what's on offer in Thailand. But there is prolly a housing allowance on top of that. That's normally how they manage to boost the salaries.

kingwilly

yep, then lets add 10% or 20% bonuses each contract, health insurance, housing allowances, shipping to and from home country, flights home each year, laptops, etc...

mind you too bad all considered, but most mates of mine earn far more than i ever do,

Industrial Chemist salesmen is heading back to singapore since they offered him $20K per month in his pocket as base retainer.....

niiioce!

Accidental Ajarn

"You guys better look at some of the top international schools and what they pay their teachers drafted from abroad."

Basically the same as ordinary teachers make back home, which even with perks does not add up to 72,000 a year. Sure, making what is a livable wage in the USA or the UK is nice when the standard of living is like it is in Thailand, but don't think normal grade or high school teachers are raking in the big bucks anywhere in the world.

I have pulled in over 100,000 K a month teaching in Thailand, but that was with extra classes and taking on a course or two (not in English) in the evenings at graduate programs around town.

If I could make the same money at a uni in Thailand as I make elsewhere, I would return in a heart beat.

Teachers just don;t get paid that well, true around the world, not just in Thailand. Last I looked, starting saalry for a New York high School teacher was around 33,000 a year.

Accidental Ajarn

“Most professional jobs in Thailand start at 150,000baht per month”

Complete and utter nonsense. Obviously this is not true for Thais and it is also not true for foreigners. This week I signed a contract with a consultant with a PhD from Oxford that was under the figure quoted by DD, who obviously feels the need to belittle teachers to boost his own puny ego.

I have hired Westerners, young professions, for professional positions at local salary scales, which around what ESL teachers make. I have also in past worked as a “manager” for wages based on local wage scales which did not reach the salary DD mentioned.

Sure there are people you make good expat wages (Count me as one these days), but if you are not sent here for a multinational company or other large international organization, chances are your starting salary will be closer to a middle class Thais than 150,000 Baht a month.