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mad_dog · 20-09-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Butterfly

Another example of English Teacher disgrace who are littering Thailand. They should all be deported to China.

Escape from China: The 2,000$ Visa Run...

Another one of Bangkok Phil's golden boys had a try at China and ended up homeless, completely skint and sacked from two of the schools in the town he moved to. He's a convicted violent felon and he's back in Thailand

kingwilly · 20-09-2007, 06:23 PM

^ that one is pretty bad i agree ! and they are all patting him on the back and saying 'there there' china is a big nasty place and its no wonder u got scared and lonely and that big nasty school giving u everything they said they wouldn and all that extra salary?

hmm its no wonder you felt worried and had to leave after 2.5 DAYS!

dirtydog · 20-09-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Controversial

so as to all this negetivity towards English teachers,maybe your chosen profession in burdened with it..

Nasty Nasty Nasty

What do you teach by the way?

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Originally Posted by Controversial

I do relise

OUCH......

Controversial · 20-09-2007, 11:17 PM

I am grateful that you took the time to correct my errors,its just a shame that you were unable to add anything constructive..

dirtydog · 20-09-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Controversial

should I put up with this low level of incompetance, inability to spell,write and in some cases even speak our English language.

I wouldn't put up with it, get them educated in a proper country, otherwise they may end up reading and writing just like you

Controversial · 20-09-2007, 11:34 PM

If you can recommend the school where you currently teach, I will sign up tomorrow to improve my skills..

Mid · 20-09-2007, 11:35 PM

yep . nothing like walking into the room ,

holding ya dick ................

Controversial · 20-09-2007, 11:38 PM

your school must be much better, I guess its in Patpong............

Umbuku · 21-09-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NickA

Heard anything about the 500 baht some people had to pay for a teachers license last year? Someone told me the whole thing had collapsed and they were going to give up because the number of teachers is so low at the moment.

The 500 baht was a payment to have all current license details and documents transferred to the newly formed Teacher's Council of Thailand.
www.tch.or.th
They are to become the ombudsman that oversees all regulations regarding the issuing of licenses in Thailand under the MoE.
It is ultimately a positive step as it will streamline the whole process of licenses and work permits by centralizing a teachers 'file'. It also removes the school from the license process making it truly a license granted by the Thai government for you to teach in Thailand. The work permit will still be directly attached to your employer and to your Non Imm B or O visa. The license will travel with you from employer to employer.

As I said the truly bogus teachers are about to find that their effort is not worth it anymore, within the next few years. The hammer is falling, if you are unqualified or an ex-con with convictions that would make you unfit to be a teacher in the west then you had better start planning.

The bottom feeder language schools will always be there if you'd prefer working for 200 baht an hour of course.

Umbuku · 21-09-2007, 11:58 AM

Re a comment by CMN:

I predict that the new regulations will be grandfathered for a few years at least and will only apply to new applications and not renewals. Only until the system is settled and functioning properly, then they will apply it retroactively to all renewals.

TIT. It may take 5 years before this all comes into effect. Many old timers used to tell me to ignore changes as they will revoke them after 6 months. In my time here not one new initiative or regulation has been recinded, only delayed before being implemented.

I'm going home for my son's primary school education and to get my BEd and teacher's license from Australia. I'm planning on returning in about 7 years time.

dirtydog · 21-09-2007, 12:14 PM

I find it quite amusing all these farang teachers going back to their home countries when they have their own children that need educating, these are people that work within the Thai education system and yet don't want their own children educated using this system

Umbuku · 21-09-2007, 12:21 PM

It's precisely because I have worked inside the Thai system that I don't want my son involved in it.

The pricey international schools give a good standard of education but anything below them is a certificate mill of ineptitude.

colourful-era · 21-09-2007, 01:03 PM

same old bollocks about a degree = good teacher

a degree in what?

you are either a decent teacher or not

Homer · 21-09-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by colourful-era

same old bollocks about a degree = good teacher

a degree in what?

you are either a decent teacher or not

exactly

mad_dog · 22-09-2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Homer

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Originally Posted by colourful-era

same old bollocks about a degree = good teacher

a degree in what?

you are either a decent teacher or not

exactly

I have a BSc but don't think you need a degree to teach in Thailand. You just need to be "educated". Having a degree proves that you are. But other qualifications like Lily's nursing Diplomas and LDMA's HND also show that someone is well educated enough to impart knowledge.

It's the delivery men, sandwich makers and van drivers who are a joke to have in the classroom. I once worked with a 33 year old who could even type! These are the clowns that need to be shown the door. It will result in higher wages for the rest of us and hopefully a more positive image of TEFLers in Thailand.

Smeg · 04-10-2007, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mad_dog

But other qualifications like Lily's nursing Diplomas and LDMA's HND also show that someone is well educated enough to impart knowledge.

Does licking the genitalia of ajarnforum admin and mods get one removed from the banned list? I'm gonna take a deep breath and try it myself

21-09-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by colourful-era

same old bollocks about a degree = good teacher

a degree in what?

you are either a decent teacher or not

Give that man a Banana!

Controversial · 21-09-2007, 03:06 PM

I have to say I stuggle with trying to understand how you can either be a good teacher or bad teacher,based on some of your comments.

As I understand it,to teach in the UK you need to have gained A levels and then go to university to gain your degree,after that you then attend a one/two year course on how to teach.I am not sure if this is correct,so please do correct me.If you want to teach English then you will need a degree in English.

So let me get this straight, in Thailand you can attend a TEFl course and then teach,this takes how long?

You then become a good or bad teacher...?

Little Chuchok · 21-09-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mad_dog

I like my job. I have a good income. I think my work is rewarding. I don't feel perscuted by the Thai government. My students are well behaved and I good working relationshiops with my colleagues (Thai and farang). I haven't lived "from pay check to pay check" since my first year when I came out here straight from uni with no cash. I don't consider the time I have spent in Thailand (almost five years) will be a black mark on my CV in anyway. I plan to study at a post graduate level in the future and I feel in no way "trapped" in Thailand.

I think it is the fakes and sex toursits that have brought this negativity into the teaching profession and I dearly hope that the Thai government tightens regulations further to get rid of all the scum bag teachers that are giving the rest of us a bad name.

It's 'cause many "teachers" here wouldn't dream of doing the job in their own country.Means to an end and all that...

You do sound lily white though...ever been to Cowboy or nana.Ever had a beer in a bar beer?Ever had anything sexual with a prozzie here?

IsaanAlex · 21-09-2007, 03:11 PM

I liked this blurb at the top of the page.

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Teaching In Thailand Teaching in Thailand can be a great career with salaries in the range of $2,500 to $6,000 per month, or you could become a TEFLer with a salary range of 350-500 pounds per month, no experience necessary.

I disagree that even those with a fair bit of experience will make much in Thailand, unless "cerified", but, that aside...who could be happy being in the lowball range, especially with a family?

*oh, the money stress*

I think life could be quite bearable for (real) teachers on a decent salary; except for all the thick Thai people you have to deal with and teach.

IA
PS. If you're lowball TEFLER scum like me, why don't you just move to Korea and make what "real teachers" make in Thailand; then just vacation in Thailand. Not a bad life...

20-09-2007, 11:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Controversial Kamala Beach Last Online: 16-09-2008 01:55 AM Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Thailand Posts: 19	I don't teach,if you could read you would have seen that. I am grateful that you took the time to correct my errors,its just a shame that you were unable to add anything constructive..

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20-09-2007, 06:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
kingwilly Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 33,745	^ that one is pretty bad i agree ! and they are all patting him on the back and saying 'there there' china is a big nasty place and its no wonder u got scared and lonely and that big nasty school giving u everything they said they wouldn and all that extra salary? hmm its no wonder you felt worried and had to leave after 2.5 DAYS!

20-09-2007, 11:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
Controversial Kamala Beach Last Online: 16-09-2008 01:55 AM Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Thailand Posts: 19	If you can recommend the school where you currently teach, I will sign up tomorrow to improve my skills..

20-09-2007, 11:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mid Nautical Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 13,324	yep . nothing like walking into the room , holding ya dick ................

20-09-2007, 11:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
Controversial Kamala Beach Last Online: 16-09-2008 01:55 AM Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Thailand Posts: 19	your school must be much better, I guess its in Patpong............

21-09-2007, 11:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
Umbuku Kanchanaburi Last Online: Yesterday 12:38 PM Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 187	Re a comment by CMN: I predict that the new regulations will be grandfathered for a few years at least and will only apply to new applications and not renewals. Only until the system is settled and functioning properly, then they will apply it retroactively to all renewals. TIT. It may take 5 years before this all comes into effect. Many old timers used to tell me to ignore changes as they will revoke them after 6 months. In my time here not one new initiative or regulation has been recinded, only delayed before being implemented. I'm going home for my son's primary school education and to get my BEd and teacher's license from Australia. I'm planning on returning in about 7 years time.

21-09-2007, 12:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
dirtydog The Dog Last Online: Today 06:18 AM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pattaya Jomtien Posts: 42,386	I find it quite amusing all these farang teachers going back to their home countries when they have their own children that need educating, these are people that work within the Thai education system and yet don't want their own children educated using this system

21-09-2007, 12:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
Umbuku Kanchanaburi Last Online: Yesterday 12:38 PM Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 187	It's precisely because I have worked inside the Thai system that I don't want my son involved in it. The pricey international schools give a good standard of education but anything below them is a certificate mill of ineptitude.

21-09-2007, 01:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
colourful-era born of a jackal Last Online: 15-07-2008 07:05 PM Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phnom Penh Posts: 2,551	same old bollocks about a degree = good teacher a degree in what? you are either a decent teacher or not

21-09-2007, 03:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
Controversial Kamala Beach Last Online: 16-09-2008 01:55 AM Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Thailand Posts: 19	I have to say I stuggle with trying to understand how you can either be a good teacher or bad teacher,based on some of your comments. As I understand it,to teach in the UK you need to have gained A levels and then go to university to gain your degree,after that you then attend a one/two year course on how to teach.I am not sure if this is correct,so please do correct me.If you want to teach English then you will need a degree in English. So let me get this straight, in Thailand you can attend a TEFl course and then teach,this takes how long? You then become a good or bad teacher...?

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