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    A different way of educating your children in Thailand.

    I think that most standards and concepts of schooling fall short globally. In the West, and especially in Thailand.

    I don't think that learners should really learn in a classroom. At least not a standard classroom. Certainly not a Thai classroom.

    I don't think that learners should be in a building, in a uniform, for 8 hours everyday.

    We're lucky in that we have a private house, with a private garden, in a private village. That also happens to have a decent children's library, playground and sport's pitches in it.

    I am considering the following for the schooling part of my child's education.

    A tutor is hired (probably Filipino) to teach (don't even like that word. ) the UK or US curriculum for an hour or two. Probably 9am-11am everyday.

    A Thai tutor is hired to aid with the Thai curriculum for an hour or two every day from midday.

    It's likely a small group would be formed from the Thai homeschool organisation, so that there are 4-8 kids in the group.

    The rest of the time they are there would be play time for them, arts and crafts etc etc. with the parents or a trip out to somewhere etc etc.


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    Home schooling is allowed in Thailand. Good luck. I hope it goes well for all concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Home schooling is allowed in Thailand. Good luck. I hope it goes well for all concerned.
    A growing collective of homeschooling associations can only be beneficial to the social order...

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    This might get them through elementary school, if you can make it work. Secondary school is much harder if you want your children to be able to cope with the real world later on.

    You need a really god filipino teacher. They are out there but how to find one? If you find one, how do you get him into Thailand and get him a work permit?

    While discipline and rote learning are not a good only base for learning, eliminating it completely is also not the best way.

    Good luck from me too, mainly in the interest of the children involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Home schooling is allowed in Thailand.
    Yes, it has been fully legal for a number of years now.

    This is a good alternative for parents in Udon Thani:

    Home School Club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    This might get them through elementary school, if you can make it work. Secondary school is much harder if you want your children to be able to cope with the real world later on.

    You need a really god filipino teacher. They are out there but how to find one? If you find one, how do you get him into Thailand and get him a work permit?

    While discipline and rote learning are not a good only base for learning, eliminating it completely is also not the best way.
    True.

    I think it is good for primary learning, but for secondary school I think other options are needed.

    One would be studying for the iGCSE examinations through the British Council or Int. House (here in Thailand), then sitting the exams after 2 years of study with them.

    BTW, if any parent of a preschool child in BKK is interested in anything, PM me.

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    I think that you should send them to school 3-4. Not to learn subjects, but to learn about social shit.

    Send them to the best school you can afford.

    Look at all the schools failings and compensate at home.

    Have a fvcking beer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier View Post
    I think that you should send them to school 3-4. Not to learn subjects, but to learn about social shit.
    Social shit.

    Duly noted, Sir.

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    ..well, that's what it's all about at that age, "Give my pencil back or i'll..

    (after the first day) - "smash you're fvcking face in"

    (after the first week) - "Hey give me that back please"

    (after the first month) - "Swap you a pencil for a moonpie"

    (after the first year) - "Let's form a conglomerate, make pencils and share the goodness"
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    then you send them to school to learn the logistics of it all

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    I started homeschooling my kids in Thailand and continued it here in Australia. Best thing I have ever done for my kids. Wont be for ever but has been a great start to their lives.

    As for the "social shit." Forget it - totally overrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMock View Post
    I started homeschooling my kids in Thailand and continued it here in Australia.
    When you homeschooled them in Thailand, did you follow two syllabuses, one Western and one Thai?

    Or just one Western?

    We would want them to sit all the Thai exams, as a 'normal' Thai student would do. And also study the material in Thai everyday as part of their homeschooling.

    *Don't really like the term homeschooling. Home Educating seems betters*

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    Damn I've been contemplating this for Wayne Jnr for a year, almost like a gap year between primary and high school, and we do the teaching on the road.

    Hey MeMock, great to hear its working out well for your gang, do you do the teaching yourselves or hire help?

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    I couldn't homeschool my kids. I just don't have the patience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    I couldn't homeschool my kids. I just don't have the patience.
    I would hire a Filipino teacher to teach them the UK/US curriculum in English. 1-2 hrs p/d.

    Then a Thai teacher to teach the Thai curriculum in Thai for 1-2 hrs p/d.


    Hopefully I could set up a group, which would make it quite cheap, also with the benefit of them spending the rest of the day doing arts and crafts, playing, going to someplace together, with the parents or minders watching on.

    30k baht p/m would probably hire the Thai and Filipino teachers, with an extra 30k per annum for the US curriculum materials for one year.

    Between 6 kids that's about 5,500b p/m for two 5 month terms per year.

    Anybody that might be interested PM me.

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    Dbell, they were very young when I was in Thailand so I was just following my nose using English books.

    Since being back in Australia my wife takes them for Thai lessons while I do the English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr View Post
    Damn I've been contemplating this for Wayne Jnr for a year, almost like a gap year between primary and high school, and we do the teaching on the road.

    Hey MeMock, great to hear its working out well for your gang, do you do the teaching yourselves or hire help?
    Hey Mr Kerr! Great to see you around the traps. Hope you are all well. Where are you at the moment?

    Taking Wayne Jnr on the road for a year will be the best thing for him. I hope it works out. You won't even have to 'teach' him. At that age he can teach himself. Make sure he spends a few hours a week reading and writing and the rest he will learn from 'life' on the road with his old man. Spend the time talking and exploring and you will al be way ahead at the end.

    This last year as I have got busier I have employed someone for 10 hours a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMock View Post
    Dbell, they were very young when I was in Thailand so I was just following my nose using English books.

    Since being back in Australia my wife takes them for Thai lessons while I do the English.
    Great.

    What curriculum and materials do you use.

    I'm looking at stuff like Sonlight.

    Sonlight Curriculum Grade 1 Full-Grade Package

    About us$1000 sent from the States, for one year's worth of books and materials.

    Unfortunately most seem to have Christian themes and overtones though (as many homeschoolers are doing so to keep them out of nasty un-Christian schools)

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    I rarely use any type of curriculum. Try to learn as much from life and what is happening around us and what is making news. I use different books and games etc that come recommended from other homeschoolers.

    Of course that does not cover them learning to read and write etc so for that I used a great book called Reading made easy. For Maths I use (and still do) a program called Math u See (From the states).

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    More on my theory of education. Just sent this to a family member.

    If anybody with a young child in BKK is around and feels similar let me know.


    The more I think of it, the less I want to send ********* to a school. Not only a school in Thailand, but not really the concept of schools in the West.


    I think so much time is wasted during the day, from commuting there, assemblies, doing this and that, the concept of all being in uniform (and over here – marching and singing national songs for an hour every day) etc.

    I’m coming to not even liken the term ‘Homeschool’ and think ‘Home Education’ is a better term.

    I think the idea of spending the first hour of the morning feeding the fish, watering the garden, listening to a music cartoon or DVD and help making breakfast, then cleaning up after it, doing small chores, 5-10 minutes of meditation in our Buddha room, is better than rushing into a uniform and then commuting in the traffic to some school to go through their morning activities of sitting in rows listening to whatever.

    Then from say 9am start their education in their playroom/classroom for an hour or two, then help make their lunch, tidy up after it, then some arts and crafts, painting, 10 minutes of meditation, watching a cartoon on the internet etc.

    Then (primary level) have another hour of education after that. the rest of the time spent playing in the garden and playground.

    I think it is a far better way for a child to be educated than in a uniform, quietly at a desk with 30 others, in a classroom.

    If possible, for primary level I would want her to follow a UK homeschool curriculum in the morning from 9-11am in English. Then 1-2hours of the Thai curriculum in Thai after lunch.


    A hopeful option is that others in BKK get on board and a group of 6 students get together as a school group and hire a Filipino teacher for 20k per month to teach them in English from 9am-11am every day, and the Thai parents together teach 'them' the Thai curriculum for an hour or two each day.

    There’s an online Thai homeschool group that share ideas etc. but they all teach their own kids at home, and don’t know if any would be interested in changing it to a dedicated daily school group like this. Unfortunately I don't think they would change their ways and become dedicated to sending their kids to such a group.

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    ^^ Thanks MeMock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBell View Post
    I would hire a Filipino teacher to teach them the UK/US curriculum in English. 1-2 hrs p/d.

    Then a Thai teacher to teach the Thai curriculum in Thai for 1-2 hrs p/d.
    Quote Originally Posted by DBell View Post
    If possible, for primary level I would want her to follow a UK homeschool curriculum in the morning from 9-11am in English. Then 1-2hours of the Thai curriculum in Thai after lunch.
    I'm assuming you will be selective in what they are taught from each curriculum rather than try to teach them the 2 whole curricula in only 2 to 4 hours a day.

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    I went to Uni with a girl who was home schooled. She was bullied at secondary school so her parents removed her from the system. She was smart and quite pleasnt but lacked any social skills at all. She was also very religious and this caused her numerous problems.
    I don't believe there is much to be gained by home schooling especially in the early years. All religion should be removed from any curriculum other than learning awareness and tolerance. Children need to have boundaries and a sensible level of discipline.
    Socialisation with others and how to interact with adults and peers is also a key skill.
    Not knocking your personal choices Mr Bell but I would replace Buddhist meditation with a quiet time for reflection.
    Removing children from formal education does them more harm than good and while I deplore the system here, it is a matter of parental choice which system is better.
    On the one hand you seem to be advocating home schooling and on the other, small elitist classes for private schooling. Where would you fit team sports and games into this mixture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Removing children from formal education does them more harm than good and while I deplore the system here, it is a matter of parental choice which system is better.
    I think that entirely depends on too many factors to be declared as such.

    On the one hand you seem to be advocating home schooling and on the other, small elitist classes for private schooling. Where would you fit team sports and games into this mixture?
    Glad you asked.

    That's the great thing about living in Bangkok.

    We live in a private village. Number 3 out of 3. Ours is the one with the communal sports area. 200 metres from our house we have the large playground, library and community centre, 2 basketball courts, 2 football pitches, aerobics area and stage area.

    3 evenings a week there is aerobics, every evening from 5pm there are football matches, there are dance groups, basket ball teams etc. Every weekend there's a 5 aside football competition on the pitches.

    The good thing about BKK is that there are social groups for everything, also highly affordable lessons. Hip Hop dance groups for example, ballet groups, guitar groups, art groups, you name it, there are groups for it.

    "On the one hand you seem to be advocating home schooling and on the other, small elitist classes for private schooling."

    I'm not necessarily advocating what most people would call 'Home Schooling'. I think it has negative connotations to it. People think of it as one or two siblings being alone at home being taught that they are God's people and everyone else is going to hell.

    I think that regular schooling isn't the best way for children to be educated. That there is an awful lot of time wasted. Time wasted is potential wasted.

    I think that Home Education offers a much better use of the child's time. If in small groups, I think it is much better than alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    I couldn't homeschool my kids. I just don't have the patience.
    Hire a decent tutor.
    Does the trick in some instances...

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