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    Who wants a Master of Educaton in TESL?

    Hello,

    I want to find people who might be interested in forming a cohort for a Master of Education in Teaching English as a Second Language through Framingham State University (FSU). They currently offer a Master Ed. in International Teaching degree that I am currently applying for. However, a TESL program would be more beneficial to me. The M Ed. TESL program from FSU is only offered in Korea because there is currently a lack of interest in having it offered in BKK. Hopefully we can change this.

    The FSU program is run through the Wells International School near On Nut in BKK. As it stands now, I will have to travel to BKK to attend a 2 course session in April and July of 2015 and 2016. Additionally, there is a February online course component in 2016. I was told that this program meets in April and July to mainly accommodate the international school teachers’ schedule. Perhaps if we form a TESL cohort we can switch months to fit whatever schedule works best for the group. There is also an additional class in the TESL program. Bring the total to ten classes.

    I have spoken to an emailed the BKK coordinator of the program and she is lovely lady that is more than willing and competent to answer any questions one may have. She has stated that “The FSU Masters in Education program is recognized by the Thai Ministry of Education in the issuance of the Thai teaching license, whether the concentration be International Teaching or TESL. “


    Links go here but I am new to the forum and don't have 5 posts yet


    I am happy to discuss this topic further with any interested people. Hope there is some interest out there.

    trnwrk

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    People who already properly qualified and experienced in teaching English would not be interested in this so-called qualification. There is no point in having meaningless letters after one's name. I have B.Sc. (Hons) and CELTA after my name and nobody needs anything else to teach English properly. Too many "Mickey Mousers" in Thailand as it is.

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    ^^ You might have more luck with this elsewhere.

    Google 'ajarn'.

    Doing a Master's was something that really paid off for me.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44
    thesis on organic asparagus production
    Gripping read. A real page turner. Couldn't put it down.
    Shame it was plagiarized. So much for trusting a PhD. I'm shattered.

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    Thanks Cyrille I will look at the ajarn website. I hope that the Master program pays off for me too. One of the reasons I will get a Master degree in Education is to gain a TL from the TCT in order to keep the job that I have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123 View Post
    have B.Sc. (Hons) and CELTA after my name and nobody needs anything else to teach English properly.
    A DELTA or

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    ^^ You might have more luck with this elsewhere.

    Google 'ajarn'.

    Doing a Master's was something that really paid off for me.

    Good luck.
    an MA in TESOL will certainly help you to teach English "properly."

    A CELTA is an entry level TEFL qualification- nothing more.
    Last edited by hallelujah; 04-09-2015 at 03:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah
    A CELTA is an entry level TEFL qualification- nothing more.
    One can either teach properly or not. A master's degree is a worthless appendage, much better to get a genuine TEFL certificate and actually teach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123
    A master's degree is a worthless appendage,
    I know quite a few of the international schools require one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah
    A CELTA is an entry level TEFL qualification- nothing more.
    One can either teach properly or not. A master's degree is a worthless appendage, much better to get a genuine TEFL certificate and actually teach.
    If an MA contains an observed teaching component, there's no comparison whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123
    One can either teach properly or not. A master's degree is a worthless appendage, much better to get a genuine TEFL certificate and actually teach.
    This is because you've checked with International schools, the British Council etc., right?


    The OP presumably has an entry level qual. such as the CELTA or equivalent and is looking to upgrade rather than do a Master's instead of a CELTA or equivalent.

    How that suggests any 'Mickey Mouse' element is something only you will know.

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    my school is pretty much of the opinion that if you're not considering furthering your education (mostly by getting an MA) then you're not serious about staying in teaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by david44
    thesis on organic asparagus production
    Gripping read. A real page turner. Couldn't put it down.
    Shame it was plagiarized. So much for trusting a PhD. I'm shattered.
    and it makes your piss stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    The OP presumably has an entry level qual. such as the CELTA or equivalent and is looking to upgrade rather than do a Master's instead of a CELTA or equivalent.
    Those who obtained a TEFL "certificate" from some "Mickey Mouse" organisation situated in a back street in Bangkok will unquestionably benefit through studying for a Master's degree. Those of us who have a worthwhile CELTA do not need to get such a degree because we already have a proper qualification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong View Post
    my school is pretty much of the opinion that if you're not considering furthering your education (mostly by getting an MA) then you're not serious about staying in teaching.
    Which would be kinda ironic for anyone in the business of education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    The OP presumably has an entry level qual. such as the CELTA or equivalent and is looking to upgrade rather than do a Master's instead of a CELTA or equivalent.
    Those who obtained a TEFL "certificate" from some "Mickey Mouse" organisation situated in a back street in Bangkok will unquestionably benefit through studying for a Master's degree. Those of us who have a worthwhile CELTA do not need to get such a degree because we already have a proper qualification.
    A month long course means you can forget about building up your qualifications for the rest of your life.

    HOOOOKAAAAAAAAAYYYY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123 View Post
    I have B.Sc. (Hons) and CELTA after my name and.
    Surely you mean "to my name" rather than "after my name"?

    Please tell me you do not put "Can123, B.Sc. CELTA" on anything.....


    That would be quite sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Please tell me you do not put "Can123, B.Sc. CELTA" on anything.....
    Nope, he puts "Can123, B.Sc.(Hons) CELTA"

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by can123 View Post
    I have B.Sc. (Hons) and CELTA after my name and.
    Surely you mean "to my name" rather than "after my name"?

    Please tell me you do not put "Can123, B.Sc. CELTA" on anything.....


    That would be quite sad.

    The words "to my name" indicate possession and are inappropriate as they usually refer to inanimate objects or rather the lack of them.

    I am able to put B.Sc. , CELTA after my name but I don't. That is why I do not need a Master's degree. My CELTA was earned at a British University following a three months intensive course. Hardly the same as ten days in Chiang Mai getting pissed, is it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Please tell me you do not put "Can123, B.Sc. CELTA" on anything.....
    Nope, he puts "Can123, B.Sc.(Hons) CELTA"

    I don't put them after my name because almost everybody has a degree in the UK these days as a result of the general fall in the standards of education. Any dope can now get a degree, just like America. I had forgotten about the honours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123
    My CELTA was earned at a British University following a three months intensive course.
    You got ripped off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    A month long course means you can forget about building up your qualifications for the rest of your life. HOOOOKAAAAAAAAAYYYY.
    I know far too many people who are lousy at their jobs even though they have many "qualifications". The degree/certificate is just a stepping stone to being able to gain employment. The real learning process starts on the job and this applies to all the professions/occupations on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by can123
    My CELTA was earned at a British University following a three months intensive course.
    You got ripped off.

    Stick to Welsh, or, at least, stay under the bloody hill !

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123
    My CELTA was earned at a British University following a three months intensive course.
    You spent three months doing a CELTA?

    And you still call it 'intensive'?

    In that case you'd best stay away from a Master's - you'll be well past retirement age before you complete it.

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    The DELTA intensive is three months. Maybe the spelling component of the course needs a spot of work?

    I complete an MA on Monday. It will hopefully help to overshadow the embarrassment of having a ONE month intensive backstreet TEFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy McNulty View Post
    The DELTA intensive is three months. Maybe the spelling component of the course needs a spot of work?

    I complete an MA on Monday. It will hopefully help to overshadow the embarrassment of having a ONE month intensive backstreet TEFL.

    Thank you for your honesty. The "Mickey Mouse" qualifications are of no use because they can never give you security of employment. You Master's degree will be a worthwhile qualification and I wish you all the best when you get it.

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