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obsidian · 17-01-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by William

scott free

racist

Shustraya · 17-01-2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by William

^erm, because it aint honest

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Originally Posted by slimboyfat

i feel like becoming a doctor tomorrow. is that ok?

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Originally Posted by machangezi

Honest work in a dishonest way is what you mean eh?

So I've met the first three saints on the board - hallelujah to you brothers!

You must be a right barrel of laughs....

Slimboy - do you really equate a Tefl teacher without the right paperwork to a bogus doctor? - hardly in the same league.

dirtydog · 17-01-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shustraya

Slimboy - do you really equate a Tefl teacher without the right paperwork to a bogus doctor? - hardly in the same league.

A bad education or a bad diagnosis will both fok up your life, so yes they are pretty similar

Shustraya · 17-01-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kingwillyhggtb

its a smeg like comment in that he's saying stupid shite, but its different to smeg cos he's blindly defendin teachers...

not blindly defending teachers at all - just defending people that are doing a day's hard work for not a particularly great wage.

Don't tell me you've never driven a car without some minor defect - perhaps you should have your licences revoked in retrospect.

This is the same logic - you 3 are claiming to be of superiour standing.

ChiangMai noon · 17-01-2007, 06:11 PM

Hello NickA.
nice to see you.

ChiangMai noon · 17-01-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shustraya

not blindly defending teachers at all - just defending people that are doing a day's hard work for not a particularly great wage.

Don't tell me you've never driven a car without some minor defect - perhaps you should have your licences revoked in retrospect.

This is the same logic - you 3 are claiming to be of superiour standing

utter pish

Shustraya · 17-01-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

A bad education or a bad diagnosis will both fok up your life, so yes they are pretty similar

Well I had a crap French teacher when I was at my secondary school - it didn't mess my life up.

ChiangMai noon · 17-01-2007, 06:13 PM

Are you an illegal?

dirtydog · 17-01-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shustraya

it didn't mess my life up.

It probably would have done if you wanted to live and work in France....

Shustraya · 17-01-2007, 06:18 PM

CMN:

my status in that regard is irelevant - the fact that some of you take joy in seeing people deported and possibly locked up in a Thai prison is disturbing.

No doubt you have all broken the law here in some minor way before - as long as you're not blatantly harming others I can't see the problem with 'cutting a few corners' as necessary to survive.

NickA · 17-01-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Hello NickA. nice to see you.

Errrmmm...Hello, CMN........when, exactly, did you see me?

Shustraya · 17-01-2007, 06:20 PM

DD:

Not really, because I could have just got another teacher.

dirtydog · 17-01-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shustraya

the fact that some of you take joy in seeing people deported and possibly locked up in a Thai prison is disturbing.

90 percent of the people I know working here in Thailand are working illegally, they know the risk and are willing to pay if they are caught, cant get fairer than that, if you work illegally you cant whinge and complain when you get caught, you know the risks, as for useing forged documents, hell you may aswell use fake dollars aswell, if you gonna do a crime you have to be prepared for the conseqeunces.

ChiangMai noon · 17-01-2007, 06:28 PM

the law in Thailand says you need a degree to teach legally.
if you don't have one, then surely ou should be willing to face the consequences as should the schools that emplo illegally.
getting people legal is a balls ache, we do it at our place nevertheless.

It's the law

Shustraya · 17-01-2007, 06:28 PM

DD: ^^

yes, I agree with that.

However, some people on this thread seem to take pleasure in the fact that these 'illegal' teachers get turned over by the police.

These teachers aren't exactly 'criminals' -

getting off on other peoples' misfortune is what I am against.

dirtydog · 17-01-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shustraya

These teachers aren't exactly 'criminals' -

They were willingly using forged documents that they had bought.

ChiangMai noon · 17-01-2007, 06:30 PM

Not sure they are getting off on it.
Anyway, how bad can it be.
they lose their 30,000 baht a month jobs and move elsewhere.

Shustraya · 17-01-2007, 06:32 PM

^^

I would label that as 'cutting corners' - not 'criminal'

I guess many teachers don't use forged documents - just work without a permit - hardly a serious crime.

Shustraya · 17-01-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Anyway, how bad can it be. they lose their 30,000 baht a month jobs and move elsewhere.

probably with some kind of 'fine' to pay as well though.

Not much fun if you're only on 30k in the first place.

At least these teachers aren't muggers or burglars - they are , (the teachers that is) in general, providing a useful service.

dirtydog · 17-01-2007, 06:38 PM

Working without a work permit if you are arrested can normally be sorted out with a cash payment at where ever you are arrested, if you get taken to the station then the price will go up, if a statement is taken and signed then it is to late and you will get locked up and it will goto court, the fine will be minimal but you will have to book a flight to your home country and then return, although sometimes this isn't enforced.

If you obtain a work permit with faked up documents, well that is a differant story, first you committed fraud etc etc etc..

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17-01-2007, 06:11 PM	#45 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon punk douche bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 28,056	Hello NickA. nice to see you.

17-01-2007, 06:13 PM	#48 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon punk douche bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 28,056	Are you an illegal?

17-01-2007, 06:18 PM	#50 (permalink)
Shustraya Koh Samui Last Online: 05-04-2007 07:45 PM Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 54	CMN: my status in that regard is irelevant - the fact that some of you take joy in seeing people deported and possibly locked up in a Thai prison is disturbing. No doubt you have all broken the law here in some minor way before - as long as you're not blatantly harming others I can't see the problem with 'cutting a few corners' as necessary to survive.

17-01-2007, 06:20 PM	#52 (permalink)
Shustraya Koh Samui Last Online: 05-04-2007 07:45 PM Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 54	DD: Not really, because I could have just got another teacher.

17-01-2007, 06:28 PM	#55 (permalink)
Shustraya Koh Samui Last Online: 05-04-2007 07:45 PM Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 54	DD: ^^ yes, I agree with that. However, some people on this thread seem to take pleasure in the fact that these 'illegal' teachers get turned over by the police. These teachers aren't exactly 'criminals' - getting off on other peoples' misfortune is what I am against.

17-01-2007, 06:30 PM	#57 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon punk douche bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 28,056	Not sure they are getting off on it. Anyway, how bad can it be. they lose their 30,000 baht a month jobs and move elsewhere.

17-01-2007, 06:32 PM	#58 (permalink)
Shustraya Koh Samui Last Online: 05-04-2007 07:45 PM Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 54	^^ I would label that as 'cutting corners' - not 'criminal' I guess many teachers don't use forged documents - just work without a permit - hardly a serious crime.

17-01-2007, 06:38 PM	#60 (permalink)
dirtydog The Dog Last Online: Today 03:05 AM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pattaya Jomtien Posts: 44,933	Working without a work permit if you are arrested can normally be sorted out with a cash payment at where ever you are arrested, if you get taken to the station then the price will go up, if a statement is taken and signed then it is to late and you will get locked up and it will goto court, the fine will be minimal but you will have to book a flight to your home country and then return, although sometimes this isn't enforced. If you obtain a work permit with faked up documents, well that is a differant story, first you committed fraud etc etc etc..

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