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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    Hello NickA. nice to see you.
    Errrmmm...Hello, CMN........when, exactly, did you see me?

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    DD:


    Not really, because I could have just got another teacher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shustraya
    the fact that some of you take joy in seeing people deported and possibly locked up in a Thai prison is disturbing.
    90 percent of the people I know working here in Thailand are working illegally, they know the risk and are willing to pay if they are caught, cant get fairer than that, if you work illegally you cant whinge and complain when you get caught, you know the risks, as for useing forged documents, hell you may aswell use fake dollars aswell, if you gonna do a crime you have to be prepared for the conseqeunces.

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    the law in Thailand says you need a degree to teach legally.
    if you don't have one, then surely ou should be willing to face the consequences as should the schools that emplo illegally.
    getting people legal is a balls ache, we do it at our place nevertheless.

    It's the law

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    DD: ^^

    yes, I agree with that.

    However, some people on this thread seem to take pleasure in the fact that these 'illegal' teachers get turned over by the police.

    These teachers aren't exactly 'criminals' -

    getting off on other peoples' misfortune is what I am against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shustraya
    These teachers aren't exactly 'criminals' -
    They were willingly using forged documents that they had bought.

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    Not sure they are getting off on it.
    Anyway, how bad can it be.
    they lose their 30,000 baht a month jobs and move elsewhere.

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    ^^

    I would label that as 'cutting corners' - not 'criminal'


    I guess many teachers don't use forged documents - just work without a permit - hardly a serious crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    Anyway, how bad can it be. they lose their 30,000 baht a month jobs and move elsewhere.

    probably with some kind of 'fine' to pay as well though.

    Not much fun if you're only on 30k in the first place.


    At least these teachers aren't muggers or burglars - they are , (the teachers that is) in general, providing a useful service.

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    Working without a work permit if you are arrested can normally be sorted out with a cash payment at where ever you are arrested, if you get taken to the station then the price will go up, if a statement is taken and signed then it is to late and you will get locked up and it will goto court, the fine will be minimal but you will have to book a flight to your home country and then return, although sometimes this isn't enforced.

    If you obtain a work permit with faked up documents, well that is a differant story, first you committed fraud etc etc etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shustraya
    At least these teachers aren't muggers or burglars - they are , (the teachers that is) in general, providing a useful service.
    obviously you haven't met any

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    at least the teachers are keeping their earnings in the country - I'm sure many a poor bargirl has been kept in good stead due to the 30k a month brigade - fair play to them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    ... I want to retire but do you think the bastards will give me a retirement visa? Oh no, wait till your 55 they say....

    ...now how the F can I get around that one
    Try applying when you're 50.

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    ^bugger!! On the upside, that's a quick 5 years off the sentence for good behavior

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shustraya View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    Anyway, how bad can it be. they lose their 30,000 baht a month jobs and move elsewhere.

    probably with some kind of 'fine' to pay as well though.

    Not much fun if you're only on 30k in the first place.


    At least these teachers aren't muggers or burglars - they are , (the teachers that is) in general, providing a useful service.
    You seem a bit sensitive to this issue. You wouldn't happen to have a "friend" who might have "questionable" legality would you?
    You, sir, are a God among men....
    Short Men, who aren't terribly bright....
    More like dwarves with learning disabilities....
    You are a God among Dwarves With Learning Disabilities.

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    Everyday I drive illegaly, whether it is my car,truck or motor bike, this is because I don't have a driving license and haven't had one for about 12 years, if I wreck my car there aint gonna be no insurance payout for me on it, don't you think that if that happened people will say it was my own stooopid fault? Or should they feel sorry for a foking moron that aint got a driving license and can't be bothered to get one, pretty much the same as these morons that get fake degrees.

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    So you wouldn't mind being arrested, fined and deported for driving a car without license next time you board your little red sewing machine?

    Hmmm, here's an idea George might be willing to throw some money at...

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    He is gonna need more than the 20k baht he offered last time on his forum.

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    Most farangs driving in this country do so illegally, and if the driver's license is knowingly or by inadvertently invalid he has no insurance cover, which makes it a double offence, though this line of reasoning was too deep for the only Thai cop I ever discussed it with.

    In my limited experience the penalty for driving without a license is a bit short of deportation, which is lucky for many, though in the case of a real serious mess involving an unlicensed/uninsured driver with insufficient funds to smooth things over, a speedy deportation may be the one thing he ends up looking forward to.

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    Personally I wouldnt be too happy if my kids were taught by some lorry driver (who as we all know are usually murderers or rapists) masquerading as a teacher, and who is only here for the cheap beer and easy sex, or on the run from the law in their own country.

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    Shustraya,

    It's the cutting corners that you advocate that leads to accidents and the manufacture of shoddy goods, both of which are undesirable consequences.

    When your balls finally drop, when you're a little dryer behind the ears, you've stopped pulling like a train and found that keeping a barl girl in the manner to which she is accustomed is not the most fulfilling occupation in life, you might realise that what goes around comes around and you won't try to be too sharp any more.

    'Till then, kiddo, stay out of the way of a good man.

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    ^
    a bit of humour, wit, truthful and insultingly patronising at the same time.

    a difficult combination to achieve in a post.

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    Thanks CMn.

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    ^/^^ yes. a nice combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    a difficult combination to achieve in a post.
    9,852 tries and you still haven't managed it

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