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    Expat Pedophile Teacher

    Does anyone have any experience turning in an Expat English teacher who has exhibited pedophilie bahavior (i.e. inappropriate touching of younger students)?

    I understand that you have to be very careful in Thailand when reporting such behavior due to the "loss of face", the school administrators might feel.

    How should someone approach this?

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    I have no qualms whatsoever of doing that Rick.

    Why are you not doing it yourself ?

    Go the school, police,Embassy and Immigration, sharpish.

    PM me. do you have his address too ?

    We could cut out all of those officials

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    If it's a farang inform his embassy and the Thai police, if it is a Thai inform the police, preferably the women and child protection unit.

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    What evidence do you have Rick ?

    First hand or hearsay ?

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    ^Since when has hearsay been evidence?

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    I've taught in a Thai school for 5 years and agree that your concerns about how to report this are valid, the situation is much more difficult here than it would be at home. Do you have any Thai teachers you are good friends with? That might be a good way to bring it to the principals attention in an informal way. The greatest problem is that even if they believe you, the most that will likely happen to him is that he will not be "invited" back to your school next year, (the school year is finished at the end of this month) and he would quite likely end up at another school.

    I agree with the above comment that contacting his embassy would also be a good way, but be very specific about exactly what you saw. If they do nothing, at least it's off your conscience. Certainly the embassy staff would have the ability to see if he had convictions in the UK and bring those to the attention of someone here that could do something about it.
    Be careful though, I still do not claim to fully understand the Thai way of handling (or ignoring) stuff like this.

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    I think it was DJ Pat who mentioned he worked with this before

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    Exhibited means what?

    Has he actually done anything wrong?

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    ^ I think RickThai was explicit enough with the "that is" comment ...don't you?

    Difficult if it is a Thai teacher but should not be a problem reporting a farang one.

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    Possibly the expat in the title might be a clue?

    Inappropriate touching? As in he touches the kids on the arms? Back?

    Or has he seen the teacher grabbing kids tits and asses?

    And if he did, why didn't he say/do something there and then?

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    You need to get with the programme. What is acceptable in a Thai classroom may not be acceptable elsewhere.

    If you find it impossible to accept different cultures take the next plane back to wherever you came from

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    ^^Because he's wary of being prosecuted for slander.
    One person's word against another means nothing.

    If the child/children involved verify his claim of inappropriate behaviour, he's got every reason to report the teacher in question.
    Bob R gives some good advice, and DD too.

    Good on yers guys.

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    Posts 10 & 11...Must be the two dumbest answers I have heard in a long time...

    One is as per avatar...the other is a good reason why the country is the way it is...
    Last edited by Troy; 05-02-2012 at 06:40 AM. Reason: Post 12 didn't exist when I first posted...so edited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You need to get with the programme. What is acceptable in a Thai classroom may not be acceptable elsewhere.

    If you find it impossible to accept different cultures take the next plane back to wherever you came from
    Are you attempting to condone apparent paedophilia by implying that the action observed by RickThai is culturally acceptable in Thailand?

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    ^^
    I assume that you are referring to Posts # 10 and 11.

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    Apologies ENT...I do indeed refer to Posts 10 and 11...

    Dumb and dumber IMO...I have edited accordingly...
    Last edited by Troy; 05-02-2012 at 06:41 AM. Reason: Apology to ENT

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    Cool, mate.

    I agree with your view.

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    FFS, is the behaviour pedophilla or is it slightly inappropriate and overly friendly? There's a world of difference, and I'm certainly not saying either is acceptable, but if you're going to accuse someone of pedophillia you'd best be certain that's what's happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    Exhibited means what?

    Has he actually done anything wrong?
    I believe folks go off quite easy these days..
    This whole consciousness of paedos is quite the contemporary fashion.

    Sensitivities are alerted...
    Wouldn't take much.
    Scratching my ass inapropriately might set some one off.

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    With no firm evidence such as video, your word against his is very tricky. If you have no firm evidence and accuse others, you will be the one in deep trouble. If you believe this is happening plant a camera and get the evidence. The only other way would be for students to come forward but do to embarassment loss of family face, I do not see this happening.

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    Sometimes a personal chat over a coffee...or beer can work wonders for finding out what is going through a persons head...passively (listening) or actively (but subtle without saying things that might activate latent desires). However, one assumes that if this is posted then something was seen and advice asked for.

    I know a teacher in KK who was aware of certain things happening between a Thai teacher and female students...he took him for a coffee break and asked what was going on...the Thai teacher left the next day...to teach at another school (not a good remedy IMO...but the best that could be done by a farang).

    As I said, it should be much easier if it is a farang rather than a Thai...good suggestions already given that I can't add to.

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    Deleted the paragraph as I thought, on reflection, it was inappropriate,,,,not asked to...personal thought only....
    Last edited by Troy; 05-02-2012 at 08:39 AM. Reason: deletion of inappropriate content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Sometimes a personal chat over a coffee...or beer can work wonders for finding out what is going through a persons head...passively (listening) or actively (but subtle without saying things that might activate latent desires). However, one assumes that if this is posted then something was seen and advice asked for.

    I know a teacher in KK who was aware of certain things happening between a Thai teacher and female students...he took him for a coffee break and asked what was going on...the Thai teacher left the next day...to teach at another school (not a good remedy IMO...but the best that could be done by a farang).
    Sound advice.

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    Best advice is to make sure your feelings are justified then if they are go for his jugular in every way possible.
    A guy was chatting to me one day in Cebu as I was in the swimming pool and must have thought I was perhaps into young kids as my nephew was in the pool with me.
    He started to go on about how he knew all the laws in the Philippines and how easy it was to avoid any penalty.
    I had noted that he was in the company of a very young girl but had thought it was the daughter of perhaps his filipina partner.
    After he started to open up it dawned on me that he was into young kids so I yelled at him strongly "are you a freaking phed "and as soon as I said that he was off as I was endeavouring to get to the side of the pool.
    Sick bastard grabbed the first tricycle and was gone never to my knowledge to return.
    I did my best to try and get information off the hotel where he had stayed but to no avail otherwise I would have used my police contacts to get him.

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    Any aberrant behaviour is easy to spot, it simply doesn't fit the context of the situation.

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    World of difference between "inappropriate touching" in Thailand, and paedophilia.

    As others have said, you'd better be sure there is evidence of any sexual misbehaviour before you start throwing allegations around at anyone.

    Have you raised your concerns with the person yourself, or is it that you just don't like him and want to stitch him up without him knowing it was you that did it?

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