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Doggsy

^ that's no bloody good to me. I need to wait another 12 mths before I can get my passport out and apply international!!! still one step at a time. I have noticed a few jobs appearing on TES lately as well. Regents and Shrewsbury in the last week and st Stephens and BIS before

good2bhappy

marvelous school, well the one in England is

insideleft

Hello,

I wonder if you can offer some suggestions.

I will be ready to move to Asia in the middle of next year. I've been working my arse off for the last 5-years to furnish this move. If I leave it any longer, my age will begin to work against me.

By the time I move, I'll have paid off my house/flat. I will be a western qualified secondary school English teacher, with an MA, BA and CELTA.

I will, however, only have the several months teaching experience from my course. This will cover exposure to the UK Curriculum.

I understand I won't have much/any chance of the top-tier schools in Thailand, but wonder what you think my chances might be with the second tier schools. Hopefully, working my way up to the top-tier after however many years.

Do you think my plan has any plausible chance of success ?

Can you give me suggestions of how best apply for those positions; apply from the UK, or go to Thailand and apply.

I don't graduate until the end of November this year, do you think I should begin sending my cv to schools now, to let them know I'm interested ?

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kingwilly

MA in what? BA in what ?

CELTA is all well and good, but will you have an education degree or a PGCE ?

That's perhaps the most important bit.

i.e. beginning teacher. that's fine, depending on your answer to the above question.

perhaps even third tier thai schools with international or english programs, a university might also be an option. depends on your answer to the first question.

of course it does.

it depends on your answer to the first question.



best suggestions to apply are given in the top of the thread. contact an agency or two. read the Times Education Supplement.

I dont think there is any point sending your CV now, they are busy filling places for July/August. Your cv will just get lost.

good luck.

insideleft

see above.

My MA is a double major - Ethics and Law

BA - Social Work, with a sub-majors in English Literature, philosophy, sociology, politics, citizenship sub-majors.

At the end of November this year, I'll be fully qualified in Australia to teach English/Literature, Social Science and Legal Studies at secondary school level.

I will be seeking employment teaching the subject of English or any of the other subjects I've credits in in an I.B. program. I will not be seeking Tefl positions.

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kingwilly

i looked,


that's nice, i still do not see any sign of an education degree, dip ed or PGCSE


how? really.

I dont see any evidence of an educational qualification.

That's what we look for. as first hurdle.

kingwilly

mate, I aint having a go at you, I'm serious,

Have the CELTA people told you that it is good for teaching in all of AUstralia?

good luck, I dont think it is.

eg: in the state of victoria

1. To gain registration with the Institute, an applicant will need to possess:

• Four years of approved tertiary study, including an approved course of primary or secondary teacher education, or
• An approved Certificate of Proficiency/Completion in a trade together with:
  - relevant industrial experience such that the period of apprenticeship and the industrial experience totals not less than eight years; and
  - an approved trade technician course or an approved equivalent program of post-apprenticeship studies; and
  - an approved course of teacher education (which may include ii), or
• An approved Certificate of Technology, together with a minimum of six years of approved industrial experience and an approved course of secondary teacher education.

2. If the applicant does not meet the requirements of 1. above, but does have an approved course of primary or secondary teacher education, then in limited and extraordinary circumstances the Institute may register the applicant as a teacher.
3. Under the terms of the Mutual Recognition (Victoria) Act 1998 and the Trans Tasman Mutual Recognition Act 1997, the Institute is required to register a person who is registered to practise as a teacher in any other participating State or Territory or in New Zealand.
For more information, go to I am Already Registered in Another Australian State or Territory, or New Zealand

Int. Schools look that you already have a qualification for teaching in your home country first, and prefer 3-5 years of experience also.

insideleft

Okay, and this is only because your experience appears as if it'll be extremely helpful to me.

To be fully qualified to teach, as I understand it, one requires recognition by the local education department.

As of the end of November this year, I will have completed my Diploma in Education (Secondary) and will be accredited to teach English/Literature, Social Science and Legal Studies in government and non-government schools throughout Australia.

The Dip Ed is a universally recognised teacher qualification.

This accredition is recognised by International Schools throughout Thailand and Asia generally.

My bachelor of social work was four-year full-time degree.

My main query relates to newly graduated, fully accredited to teach, but inexperienced, gaining employment in Thailand's international schools.


For goddess' sake, please let this be enough.

kingwilly

thank-you, why didnt you say so in the first, or the second place.

this is not the same, many many unqualified people use this term, since not all countries, or even states have the same rules/regulations for accreditation to teach, I've heard many people use this phrase as a way of avoiding mentioning the fact that they DO NOT HAVE AN EDUCATION QUALIFCATION, and bleat on abnout how many degrees, in law and business they have and how that their years of experience in business is worth far more than any peice of paper (meaning an education degree that that do not have)

now that you've told us you'll have a Dip Ed, we know that it does not pertain to you.

Wasn't so hard, was it?

Yes, it is. you never mentioned the Dip Ed. before but now that you have I can tell you that you are as good as gold to teach in pretty much any international school around the world now.


The general rule is that you need 2-5 years experience first. BUT many, well a few, have been able to gain employement at even the top international schools in Bangkok, ISB, BPS and NIST.

Most of the schools are looking for teachers for August right now, so no real point sending them resumes for after that. Most schools, do not hire from resumes sent in, but prefer (I saw prefer so the odd person can say but my friends, friend George Smith got into such and such blah blah exceptions) but most schools prefer to deal with a couple of large recruitment agencies. Search Associates, Council International Schools, International School Search, so get your name onto one of them.

In fact, you may even wish to start that process now, since it can take six months, they all have deadlines towards the end of this year, for jobs starting NEXT AUGUST!

a smaller, and cheaper alternative is to buy the Times Education Supplement or sign up for Teacher Recruitment International - a smaller Australian based company. www.triaust.com

FWIW - I have no affiliation or connection with any of these agencies so recommend honestly them as a previous customer.

insideleft

Thanks KW,

Since reading this thread, I am in touch with several of the agencies you mentioned.

I understand your need for clarity, I often fall for the trap of thinking that the way I understand what I say is universally understood.

Thanks for your persistance.

Vientianeboy

Yes Kingwilly; she landed a job at NIST and started on $51,000 a year plus a housing allowance and the other usual benefits.

kingwilly

Erm, quite probable, what's your point?

Vientianeboy

The point is that even an inexperienced teacher can get a job at a prime International school with luck. What is your point?

Doggsy

i have joined up with search associates, am keeping my eye on TES and i am also keeping my eye on the individual school websites as I have read on ISR that a lot of schools are starting to do Skype interviews and so filling places much earlier. To this end do you think it would be wise to send off my CV in the next couple of weeks to schools that interest me so that if a position comes up they can look at my qualifications or do you think just sending a CV on the off chance would annoy them and make them NOT look at me for being an opportunist?
My CV is ready to go, my cover letter needs work. Anybody got any idea what to put in a good cover letter when you have minimal teaching experience, PGCE and 1 year?

kingwilly

doesnt hurt. but most schools do not require their teachers to resign until Dec/Jan therefore I do not think most jobs will be filled before then.

Be truthful and upfront, nothing worse than reading a cover letter and resume and needing to spend time guessing what the applicant details and experience is.

write a cover letter saying why you want to teach, why you want to teach overseas, detail relevant life experience you may have, explain your future teaching career plans if relevant.

google it, I'm sure there is thousands of good websites out there.

Cover Letters - Format