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    Parts of roadside bombs have been found to be of Iranian manufacture. What's the big deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    What's the big deal?
    this was a simple attempt at distraction. and apparently it was successful with the '24' crowd.

    according to the military, 170 US soldiers have been killed by these EFPs. that's approx. 5% of all US deaths. isn't it plausible that the opposition forces in iraq bought them off the black market?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    isn't it plausible that the opposition forces in iraq bought them off the black market?
    Isn't it plausible that the Mad Mullahs are fomenting further death & destruction aimed at our brave soldiers in Iraq?

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    vitriol aside, of course it is......but plausibility and casus belli are worlds apart---or at least they should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    vitriol aside, of course it is......but plausibility and casus belli are worlds apart---or at least they should be.
    If it quacks like a duck...

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    I generally find it more useful to analyse facts rather then rely on associations which confirm my suspicions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    If it quacks like a duck...
    of course i'm familiar with the expression, but i'd like to know how you think it applies to this context.

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    No link between Iran's government and weapons in Iraq.

    But the U.S. officials acknowledge that what the briefer said in Baghdad is only a deduction—in other words a guess, perhaps even an educated guess. The "assessment," the four sources said, is not backed up by hard intelligence linking any specific weapons shipments or Quds Force activity in Iraq to any specific order by any individual Iranian leader. Various reports—and some statements by U.S. officials—have suggested that the Quds Force reports to either Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, or Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran's supreme religious leader. But the intelligence officials said the U.S. government has no intelligence reporting proving that either of these leaders knew about or issued any order regarding the shipment of weapons into Iraq.
    Educated guess? More like making up stuff.

    Terror Watch: Behind the Iran Intel - Newsweek Terror Watch - MSNBC.com

    With the current U.S. government's history of lies, deceit, and false accusations nobody would believe them now even if Ahmadinejad himself were standing in Baghdad holding a Steyr.

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    Well, it wouldn't be the first time, would it? They're also making up stuff about Iran's nuclear program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace View Post
    Well, it wouldn't be the first time, would it? They're also making up stuff about Iran's nuclear program.
    Whoo hoo!
    Making stuff up now is it?
    And I get accused of too liberal poetic licence!

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    Kidnapped or Defected? Top Iranian General Disappears

    March 05, 2007 5:28 PM
    Hoda Osman and Christopher Isham Report:
    The mysterious disappearance of an Iranian general in Turkey in early February has led to speculation he either was kidnapped or defected.
    Iran has reportedly asked Interpol to investigate the general's disappearance. Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki was quoted by Iran's news agency today as saying that a foreign ministry official was currently in Turkey to investigate the disappearance and has asked the Turkish government "to inquire into the issue and give explanation on Asgari's whereabouts."
    One respected analyst with sources in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard says Gen. Ali Reza Asgari has defected and is now in a European country with his entire family, where he is cooperating with the U.S.
    Other reports have suggested that the general may have been kidnapped by the Israeli secret service, the Mossad. A spokesperson at the CIA declined to comment on the reported defection.
    "This is a fatal blow to Iranian intelligence," said the source, explaining that Asgari knows sensitive information about Iran's nuclear and military projects.
    Entire & Link: The Blotter

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    Iran would be mad not to seek nuclear weapons. Look at North Korea: from founding member of Axis of Evil worthy of destruction to potential recipient of... US supplied aid energy, official US recognition and removal from the State Departments "terror state" list and iron clad security pacts.

    Armying yourself with nuclear weapons is the only way to stop the global tyrant from destroying your country.
    They champion falsehood, support the butcher against the victim, the oppressor against the innocent child. May God mete them the punishment they deserve

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_dog View Post
    Armying yourself with nuclear weapons is the only way to stop the global tyrant from destroying your country.
    Definitely.


    A couple of Canadians in the Canadians government have begun discussing Canada producing and keeping nuclear weapons.

    Why?


    Because of what Canada now has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_dog View Post

    Armying yourself with nuclear weapons is the only way to stop the global tyrant from destroying your country.
    The Global Tyrant!
    ...i love the covert & overt trollinig in this forum!

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    This is what we like to see!:

    Cheney vows Iran will not get nuclear weapons

    "US Vice President Dick Cheney warned Friday from the hangar deck of a US aircraft carrier in the Gulf that the United States will not let Iran get nuclear weapons"

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    Well if Dick Cheney says it it must be true.
    Now wheres those pesky Iraqi WMD's?

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    Saddam's nukes were given to the Iranians, just before the Iraq invasion, don't you remember?

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    More likely the Syrians, having trusted the Parsis with a bunch of his planes before the Gulf War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    US Vice President Dick Cheney warned Friday from the hangar deck of a US aircraft carrier
    i wonder if 'chicken-hawk' dick mentioned his five vietnam era deferments while he was there.

    i also wonder if there was a 'mission accomplished' banner behind him.


    but i'm guessing 'no' on both counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    This is what we like to see!:

    Cheney vows Iran will not get nuclear weapons

    "US Vice President Dick Cheney warned Friday from the hangar deck of a US aircraft carrier in the Gulf that the United States will not let Iran get nuclear weapons"

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    Cheney is making bold statements.

    Perhaps this is a diplomatic move to try to negotiate or make a deal. But I don't see how diplomacy or some quid pro quo will work: Iran is determined. Period.

    And, the most important question is: how will Cheney and the U.S. try to stop Iran from gettin nuclear weapons.

    A surgical strike on the sites via missiles and the are is the only option they have.
    ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    A surgical strike on the sites via missiles and the are is the only option they have.
    And we have lots of nuclear submarines loaded with Tomahawks ready to do just that. Even France has stated Iran cannot have nuclear weapons so... Europe might make a 'fuss' at the US performing 'surgery' on Iran but it will come to naught...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    A surgical strike on the sites via missiles and the are is the only option they have.
    No doubt there'll be civvies in the area, if only workers' families, which will set the bhb on another flame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    A surgical strike on the sites via missiles and the are is the only option they have.
    And we have lots of nuclear submarines loaded with Tomahawks ready to do just that. Even France has stated Iran cannot have nuclear weapons so... Europe might make a 'fuss' at the US performing 'surgery' on Iran but it will come to naught...
    Before W. Bush leaves office in Jan. of 2009, I believe there will be a surgical strike.

    What I don't know is how Iran will respond.

    I think both the U.S. and Iran have contingency plans and different scenarios.

    I think it's going to get weird - not the strike - but the response to it.

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    By the time Iran has enough fissile material to have a bomb or three, Ahmed will be out of office anyway.
    It will take an awful lot more than a surgical strike to destroy Iran's nuclear programme.
    Probably the best chance for Iran to halt it's nuclear program would be for Israel to join the IAEA, but I doubt you will read much about that in the corporate media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Yep...life in the warm, cloistered world of a TEFLer or living out in Nakhon Nowhere has addled your brains, boys. There wern't no backtracking on any points. Living in the Baan Nok as a gentleman of leisure, I can understand but reading comprension should be a requirement for a so-called 'acadamic', eh?
    A prerequisite of reading comprehension is that the writer is using correct language.

    Something that you don't seem to be able to manage.

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