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    Why not ban and stop the production of cars and make electric cars available to the masses rather than the trend follower. It doesn't quite work like that, does it!

    I'm up for cleaner air. No climate change denier here. Just haven't fallen for the man-made, tax the ordinary folk bull-shit just yet!

    Could it be because some of the promoters of climate change also have their hands in the car industry? Sapping the most out of the present!
    You bullied, you laughed, you lied, you lost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Could it be because some of the promoters of climate change also have their hands in the car industry? Sapping the most out of the present!
    indeed, and invested in Big Oil as well.

    I tend to agree with you JJ - See no reason why we need to be taxed when they could simple DO THINGS.

    It's all a fraud.

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    NASA’s April number,…….


    Seventh Consecutive Warmest Month on Record For Earth

    NOAA’s April 2016 information,……..




    Every single month since year 2000 has been above the 1961 – 1990 baseline temperature.


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    It's all a fraud.
    Still no science?
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    During the test, the researchers featured such a statement, along with the corresponding climate data — but they changed the labels and wording, making it appear that they were displaying information about entirely unrelated topics, such as agricultural output or business profits. They then asked the expert participants to answer a series of questions about whether they thought the given statement confirmed or contradicted the accompanying data; whether the statement seemed misleading; and whether the statement was appropriate for use by policymakers or industries.
    .........
    “Across two groups of experts and across six different scenarios, contrarian claims were judged to be misleading, inaccurate, and unsuitable for policy advice,” the researchers wrote in the paper. “Conversely, mainstream scientific interpretations were found to be accurate and suitable for policy advice overall.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ke-this-study/

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    meanwhile away from manipulated charts ...

    Minnesota, Wisconsin Wine Grape Crops Damaged in Cold Snap

    Vintners in southern Wisconsin and southeastern Minnesota are reeling from a weekend cold snap that ruined huge swaths of their grapes.
    Temperatures dipped below freezing in much of those areas late Saturday and early Sunday, wiping out grape shoots that had emerged early due to a warm spring. The cold turned the water in the shoots cells to ice, killing the tissue, said Amaya Atucha, a University of Wisconsin-Madison assistant horticulture professor.
    Steve Johnson, head of the Wisconsin Grape Growers Association, said Tuesday that vineyards west of Madison suffered the worst. An informal survey of growers shows at least 30 vineyards in that area lost more than 50 percent of their crops, he said.

    Minnesota, Wisconsin Wine Grape Crops Damaged in Cold Snap

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    The Arctic Heat Wave Is Literally Off the Charts Right Now


    By Maddie Stone on 26 May 2016 at 8:30PM

    So far, 2016 has been a record hot year however you slice it—but the Arctic is on fire. A recently updated graph by the National Snow and Ice Data Center’s Andrew Slater shows just how freakishly warm it’s been in what is ostensibly one of the coldest regions of our planet.

    From the start of the year, degree days below freezing in the Arctic have been at the lowest levels record keeping began in 1980. In other words, the Arctic is melting, fast and early. As Slate meteorologist Eric Holthaus noted on Twitter, we’re now, quite literally, off the charts:
    This is how warm it’s been in the Arctic so far this year.
    Literally off the charts, fewest freezing degree days. pic.twitter.com/mofdmTMLuL
    — Eric Holthaus (@EricHolthaus) May 26, 2016
    This prolonged hot flash will come as no surprise to those who have been paying attention. After all, 2016 started out with a bang, as temperatures at the North Pole skirted the freezing point on New Year’s Eve. (They’re normally 30 degrees Celsius lower.) Back in March, the NSDIC announced that Arctic sea ice hit a record low this winter, and just last week, NOAA’s Barrow Observatory confirmed that it had recorded its earliest snowmelt date yet: May 13th.


    Image: National Snow and Ice Data Center

    All signs are now pointing to a record low summertime sea ice extent, meaning more fresh meltwater entering the Arctic ocean and less reflective, icy surface to deflect the sun’s rays. The result? The Arctic absorbs even more heat and melts even faster.

    The roof is on fire, and time is running out to fix it.
    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth
    Still no science?
    Not from you. You are doing well proving that the climate does change, which is a bit daft because, well, only a fool, you know, the really stupid ones who would believe CLIMATE SCAM, would not know that the climate is changing all the time.

    So which of your reports this week have been written by PhD candidates toeing the party line who have not yet graduated, are funded by the bankers and big oil who stand to make trillions from the cap and trade scam they have already set up, backed financially by obomba.... which have actually been "peer reviewed" as opposed to one of the 60% of them which have not? Which has been written by professionals in the area as opposed to a used car salesman from Zurich?

    Lastly... ohhh lastly... have you ever read the actual reports? After all, a very peculiar way of working this IPCC has in that they release summaries for policy debates, which all of your bullshit articles are based upon, and then go back to alter the actual report to agree with that, meaning that the vast majority of the reports you rely on Dandruff are fake.

    Climate Scam - enslaving and starving the world one country at a time, brought to you by the Rockefeller Eugenics Hit Squad.... and yes... SNUBB.. Big oil has its mitts all over this. You are a shill for Oiligarchy, and Landreth is the biggest shill of all with his hillary and climate scam wank threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth
    Still no science?
    Not from you. You are doing well proving that the climate does change, which is a bit daft because, well, only a fool, you know, the really stupid ones who would believe CLIMATE SCAM, would not know that the climate is changing all the time.

    So which of your reports this week have been written by PhD candidates toeing the party line who have not yet graduated, are funded by the bankers and big oil who stand to make trillions from the cap and trade scam they have already set up, backed financially by obomba.... which have actually been "peer reviewed" as opposed to one of the 60% of them which have not? Which has been written by professionals in the area as opposed to a used car salesman from Zurich?

    Lastly... ohhh lastly... have you ever read the actual reports? After all, a very peculiar way of working this IPCC has in that they release summaries for policy debates, which all of your bullshit articles are based upon, and then go back to alter the actual report to agree with that, meaning that the vast majority of the reports you rely on Dandruff are fake.

    Climate Scam - enslaving and starving the world one country at a time, brought to you by the Rockefeller Eugenics Hit Squad.... and yes... SNUBB.. Big oil has its mitts all over this. You are a shill for Oiligarchy, and Landreth is the biggest shill of all with his hillary and climate scam wank threads.
    You still can't bear the thought of proper science can you.

    Fucks up your random youtube videos full of tin foil whackjob theories a treat.

    You're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    You're an idiot.
    Indeed he is. To blinded to see this conspiracy theory he is pushing was manufactured here in the US by the Koch brothers and other right wing propagandists. Idiotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    You're an idiot.
    Indeed he is. To blinded to see this conspiracy theory he is pushing was manufactured here in the US by the Koch brothers and other right wing propagandists. Idiotic.

    Dullard. Cap and trade was written by big business, mostly the Oligarchy, and not your piddly stupid kock brothers you keep wittering on about who are small fry, and the bankers. You have the kock brothers on the mind - they are nothing - none entities - the designated patsies in this side show of US and THEM, Blue and Red, Right and LEft you persist in falling into. Its he same divide and conquer that they used with Black and White which surely FFS you have seen the devastating effects of tool falling into that pitfall.

    Every single report that has been posted in this thread comes from Maurice Strongs original terms of reference, which means that they can only attribute any changes to man made climate change. They are not allowed, to qualify for their funding and inclusion, to look at anything else. This is why the SHOCK HORROR we're all going to die stories in the news papers that you fall for, harry wanks over, and landreth soggies his sock a bit more about.... are always wrong. Always - never even close. Why? Because thy are based on bad science limited by terms of reference which start by saying that all change in the climate is solely down to man, and nothing else.

    You bunch of muppets are waving your flags and sold out on the idea, but have never actually looked into the root of it all. As soon as you do, all of this shit falls apart and you see it for what it is - a SCAM to create a cap and trade derivative exchange (obama is invested in it already ffs) and of course, the real one, to start getting rid of the useless eaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    Because thy are based on bad science limited by terms of reference which start by saying that all change in the climate is solely down to man, and nothing else.
    This is the single most stupid thing I have ever read.
    Last edited by bsnub; 01-06-2016 at 04:45 AM.

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    some examples of these scientists who've lost their funding and inclusion would be nice to see, reverend

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    Professor Judith Curry for one.

    Most of the "science" you climate scammer spout come from PhD students, and they make up the majority of your 20,000 "scientists", who are being funded by the bankers and Oiligarchy to produce research to support their need for a cap and trade exchange and the derivatives that will make trillions for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    Most of the "science" you climate scammer spout come from PhD students, and they make up the majority of your 20,000 "scientists", who are being funded by the bankers and Oiligarchy to produce research to support their need for a cap and trade exchange and the derivatives that will make trillions for them.

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    Ahh that old fallacy again.

    Problem that you boys have is that you believe the "big oil" ruse forgetting that big oil is hand in hand, the same, with the banking families. They are one in the same. So when you say "big oil" you do not realise that

    a - the Oiligarchy is the Bankers
    b - the Oiligarchy is not about oil, but about making money, power and control
    c - climate scam, and all its research is funded by these people
    d - the cap and trade exchange profits, which is all about taking vast sums of money from people such as yourself and gifting it to the bankers, who in turn are the same as the oiligarchy, will gift them trillions of dollars
    e - the terms of reference, set by Maurice Strong, who, and this is what you all conveniently forget, was a Rockefeller employee, state that every single piece of research must only concentrate on man made, and thus all evidence of climate change can only be shown to be man made and ignoring all other facts, like, well the climate does change anyway.

    Rather funny - you are all indeed, what is the phrase Snubb uses all the time, Big Oil Shills. You are utterly ignorant about who is behind climate scam, know nothing of the Oiligarchy and their role in creating bodies such as the world wildlife fund etc, and most importantly do not make the link between all of the "work" they do and their massive clear incontrovertible passion for eugenics, which targets you, your children, your family and friends.

    Carry on waving your flag....whilst you still can, but perhaps take a moment to actually look into all. But you won't - you will keep up with the "conspiracy theorist" rubbish instead because that is safer for you and your cognitive dissonance.

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    Oh well thankfully there are people like you possessed of the true facts and knowledge - gleaned from the IntraGoogles because "the Oiligarchy" for all their power and influence simply aren't very good at hiding this shit - to open the eyes of the sheeple eh, pseudo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    Professor Judith Curry for one.
    Ahh another big oil shill it has been shown that she is on the take. Can you find one credible source to back your absurd tinfoil tomfoolery?



    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    20,000 "scientists"
    Of course they are all on the take. The most massive act of complicity in human history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    "the Oiligarchy"
    You really have no idea about the past of the rockefellers, companies like BP, Shell etc. Utterly clueless. I bet you think that oil is a "fossil" fuel as well. Just shows how well the Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations did indeed change the education system to their will... which of course you know nothing about because in your infantile childishness and arrogance, you think that if that were true you would know about it.



    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    she is on the take.
    Prove it. Even the UBER climate scam support Guardian says there is no link at all between her and "big oil". So what do you know that is different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    You really have no idea about the past of the rockefellers, companies like BP, Shell etc. Utterly clueless. I bet you think that oil is a "fossil" fuel as well. Just shows how well the Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations did indeed change the education system to their will... which of course you know nothing about because in your infantile childishness and arrogance, you think that if that were true you would know about it.
    You spend an inordinate and ultimately wasted amount of time trying to tell me what I think.

    It's quite infantile and arrogant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    Oh well thankfully there are people like you possessed of the true facts and knowledge - gleaned from the IntraGoogles because "the Oiligarchy" for all their power and influence simply aren't very good at hiding this shit - to open the eyes of the sheeple eh, pseudo.
    I wonder where you get your special knowledge from, Ant? You condemn people who do actually research for themselves, and question things. You sit on your ivory tower (yes, white tower) thinking that all you know is true, and seemingly have never looked for yourself to see if what you have been taught to believe is actually real, as opposed to what you are supposed to believe. Curiosity never got the better of you at all? Not bothered to have a look at anything beyond typing a subject matter in with "debunk" or "snopes" written after it, and stopping there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    Prove it.
    The burden of proof is on you pseudo. You are the one making absurd claims. The woman has admitted that she takes money from big oil. Besides this is just one discredited denier. Surely you can find someone more highly regarded in the scientific community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    You really have no idea about the past of the rockefellers, companies like BP, Shell etc. Utterly clueless. I bet you think that oil is a "fossil" fuel as well. Just shows how well the Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations did indeed change the education system to their will... which of course you know nothing about because in your infantile childishness and arrogance, you think that if that were true you would know about it.
    You spend an inordinate and ultimately wasted amount of time trying to tell me what I think.

    It's quite infantile and arrogant.
    Not at all - everything you write on here demonstrates precisely that you are infantile in your naivity, and arrogance oooooozes from every word as you dismiss anything that does not conform to the "truth" of your conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    Prove it.
    The burden of proof is on you pseudo. You are the one making absurd claims. The woman has admitted that she takes money from big oil. Besides this is just one discredited denier. Surely you can find someone more highly regarded in the scientific community.
    No bellend. How can I prove someone has not taken "big oil" money - you need to prove she has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    I wonder where you get your special knowledge from, Ant? You condemn people who do actually research for themselves, and question things. You sit on your ivory tower (yes, white tower) thinking that all you know is true, and seemingly have never looked for yourself to see if what you have been taught to believe is actually real, as opposed to what you are supposed to believe. Curiosity never got the better of you at all? Not bothered to have a look at anything beyond typing a subject matter in with "debunk" or "snopes" written after it, and stopping there?
    So much logical fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus

    ...arrogance oooooozes from every word as you dismiss anything that does not conform to the "truth" of your conspiracy theory...

    You really have no idea... Utterly clueless... which of course you know nothing about... have never looked for yourself to see if what you have been taught to believe is actually real...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    Prove it.
    The burden of proof is on you pseudo. You are the one making absurd claims. The woman has admitted that she takes money from big oil. Besides this is just one discredited denier. Surely you can find someone more highly regarded in the scientific community.
    No bellend. How can I prove someone has not taken "big oil" money - you need to prove she has.
    You need to prove the utter nonsense you have spouted on this thread. You have not provided one shred of evidence because you can not.

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