Thread: Does the US media have a liberal bias?

Yes, MSNBC is libbie much a Fox is conservative, although I have to say it is considerably less lowbrow. So now lets look at this libbie media bias in action-

Phil Donahue's 2002 program Donahue was canceled in late February 2003 during the buildup to the Iraq War. Despite earlier claims of cancellation because of low ratings,[78] Donahue was MSNBC's highest rated show that month.[77]

A leaked NBC internal study revealed that the studio was concerned that Donahue would act as "a home for the liberal antiwar agenda at the same time that our competitors are waving the flag at every opportunity."
MSNBC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


There is Media bias, booner. They can spoon feed you from the so called left, right or centre- but they all dance to the same tune when the war drums beat. The media coverage in the lead up to the invasion of Iraq (and after) was and remains a national disgrace, and has removed any pretence of their being an unbiased or truly independent media sector. But it is Establishment bias.

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Even Chris Mathews today pointed to his own profession of journalism as having failed the public in the run up to the war in Iraq.

I wonder if anybody will be so observant of the current failure of the American media, libbie press or otherwise, to call out the crimes and atrocities commited by Israel on a daily basis.

The American press is, as a whole, a shameful disgrace. If only we had a liberal press. We have, for the most part, a lap dog propogandist mill for the status quo.

Who owns 'dangerously libbie' MSNBC?






One of the largest military contractors in the world, that's who. But of course, GE would never interfere in an 'independent' media group they happen to own, would they?

Shall we ask Phil?

Originally Posted by Norton

Fox and MSNBC are simply political attack forums for GOP and Dems.

They are political attack forums. But I will say that MSNBC has the disadvantage of reporting the news instead of making it up like Faux News. MSNBC can be self critical and critical of liberals and Obama. Fox does not.

Originally Posted by Norton

All of it crap and insignificant in the big picture. Simple fact there are no differences between Dems and GOP in spite of attempts by Fox and MSNBC to create the illusion they are.

Basically true. They both support the status quo, both take money from private industry and so are equally corrupt. Having said that, I would still take an Obama or a Clinton over a Romney, a Bush, or lets not forget, a Cheney (shudder).

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

There's a world of ideological and political differences and the 24/7 news cycle is making that glaring gap ever more apparent.

Originally Posted by MrG

They both support the status quo, both take money from private industry and so are equally corrupt.

There ya go Booners. Thank you G.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

No difference between a Bill O'Reilly & a Rachel Madcow?

One woks for GE, one for prince Rupert. They both sell corporate advertising.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

No difference between the editorial policy of the NYT and say the Houston Chronicle?

None, when your nation wants your young men to go to war and bomb some other people, and needs corporate owned mouthpieces to broadcast their lies. Perhaps the NYT lies might convince a few more people with degrees to sign up, and the Houston rag a few more latinos.
Oh, but every day they will tell you how hugely different they are, when they are arguing about same sex marriage, or how much tax the rich shouldn't pay.

Originally Posted by MrG

They both support the status quo, both take money from private industry and so are equally corrupt.

This is what booners cant get his head around now or ever. He believes right or wrong for better or worse. That is the way of the red state sheeple. Their blind devotion is precisely what is so dangerous about them.

Not to get too beleaguered here but tell us again how a Ted Cruz and a Diane Feinstein are the same.

It has nothing to do with the status quo or supporting private industry...

MrG must have missed the memo:

For a comparison - CNN is 55% news, 45% opinion, and Fox News is 45% news and 55% opinion. MSNBC is in a world all its own.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

For a comparison - CNN is 55% news, 45% opinion, and Fox News is 45% news and 55% opinion. MSNBC is in a world all its own.

I am sure I can find a different comparison,
but he it all depends who is making the comparison

Originally Posted by bsnub

He believes right or wrong for better or worse.

If he put half as much effort that he puts into being wrong into something like, say, digging a hole he'd be at Earth's core by now!

Another stark, glaring example of media bias. Anything, I mean anything to discredit anyone who criticizes the Chicago Jesus and his crew of misfits:

CBS News can’t help but report on the wheels coming off the disgraceful Obama Regime as the Fundraiser in Chief’s gross dereliction of duty if not treason is exposed. But they can help how Benghazi is presented to the 'proles'.



Any journalists out there care to explain what legitimate purpose the sneer quotes serve? Readers will note that CBS didn’t see any need for sneer quotes here:



Pathetic...

We can currently see glaring libbie bias in the rush by the western media to condemn Israels recent act of war against Syria. Not- as in not one western newspaper or columnist has condemned it, that I am aware of, and very few have even questioned the 'official story'. So now Israel too is fighting for our brave and noble allies, Al Qaeda.

Paul Craig Roberts is quickly becoming one of my favorite go-to guys when I want something besides the pablum and lies they serve up on the American "news" channels--libbie or conservative.
This is part of an article we recently published.

How Elites and Media Minimize Dissent and Bury Truth — Paul Craig Roberts

Over the last several years I have watched the rise of an important new intellect on the American scene. Ron Unz, publisher of The American Conservative, has demonstrated time and again the extraordinary ability to reexamine settled issues and show that the accepted conclusion was incorrect.
One of his early achievements was to dispose of the myth of immigrant crime by demonstrating that “Hispanics have approximately the same crime rates as whites of the same age and gender.” You can imagine the uproar, but Unz won the debate.

Unz provoked and prevailed in another controversy when he concluded that Mexican-Americans have approximately the same innate intelligence as whites, with their lower IQs being due to transitory socio-economic deprivation.

He next surprised by showing the connection between the declining real value of the minimum wage (about one-third less than in the 1960s) and immigration. Americans cannot survive on one-third less minimum income than four decades ago, and the unfilled jobs are taken by Hispanics who live many to the room. A higher minimum wage, Unz pointed out, would cure the illegal immigration problem as American citizens would fill the jobs.
…snip…

Unz’s latest article, “Our American Pravda,” http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/our-american-pravda/ is a striking account of the failure of media, regulatory, and national security organizations and subsequent coverups that leave the public deceived. Unz uses the Iraq war as one example:

“The circumstances surrounding our Iraq War demonstrate this, certainly ranking it among the strangest military conflicts of modern times. The 2001 attacks in America were quickly ascribed to the radical Islamists of al-Qaeda, whose bitterest enemy in the Middle East had always been Saddam Hussein’s secular Baathist regime in Iraq. Yet through misleading public statements, false press leaks, and even forged evidence such as the “yellowcake” documents, the Bush administration and its neoconservative allies utilized the compliant American media to persuade our citizens that Iraq’s nonexistent WMDs posed a deadly national threat and required elimination by war and invasion. Indeed, for several years national polls showed that a large majority of conservatives and Republicans actually believed that Saddam was the mastermind behind 9/11 and the Iraq War was being fought as retribution. Consider how bizarre the history of the 1940s would seem if America had attacked China in retaliation for Pearl Harbor.
…snip…
Unz covers a number of cases of criminality, treason, and coverups at high levels of government and points out that “these dramatic, well-documented accounts have been ignored by our national media.” One reason for “this wall of uninterest” is that both parties are complicit and thus equally eager to bury the facts.

Unz is raising the question of the efficacy of democracy. Does the way democracy works in America provide any more self-rule than in undemocratic regimes? He offers this example:

“Most of the Americans who elected Barack Obama in 2008 intended their vote as a total repudiation of the policies and personnel of the preceding George W. Bush administration. Yet once in office, Obama’s crucial selections—Robert Gates at Defense, Timothy Geither at Treasury, and Ben Bernake at the Federal Reserve—were all top Bush officials, and they seamlessly continued the unpopular financial bailouts and foreign wars begun by his predecessor, producing what amounted to a third Bush term.”

In an article not long ago, I raised the issue whether Americans live in The Matrix with their perceptions and thoughts controlled by disinformation as in George Orwell’s 1984.

Unz adds to this perspective. He tells the story of Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky’s plan to transform Russia into a make-believe two-party state complete with heated battles fought on divisive and symbolic issues. Behind the scenes the political elites would orchestrate the political battles between the parties with the purpose of keeping the population divided and funneling popular dissatisfaction into meaningless dead-end issues. In such a system, self-serving power prevails. After describing Berezovsky’s plot, Unz asks if Berezovsky got his idea from observing the American political scene.

Unz’s view of the US media as propagandists for power is consistent with that of John Pilger, one of the last remaining real journalists who refuses to serve power, and with Gerald Celente, who sums up the sordid American media in one word--”presstitutes.” I know from my own media experience that an independent print and TV media no longer exists in the West. The American media is a tightly controlled disinformation ministry.http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/

Originally Posted by sabang

We can currently see glaring libbie bias in the rush by the western media to condemn Israels recent act of war against Syria. Not- as in not one western newspaper or columnist has condemned it, that I am aware of, and very few have even questioned the 'official story'. So now Israel too is fighting for our brave and noble allies, Al Qaeda.

That's a good thing perhaps. Maybe the Libbie Media senses that it has over reached with carrying Obama's water for 4.5 years and chose to remain silent on any commentary regarding the just actions Israel took against its enemies.

Never thought I'd see the day:

The NY Times is blasting the Obama Administration for spying on the Associated Press.

"The Obama administration, which has a chilling zeal for investigating leaks and prosecuting leakers, has failed to offer a credible justification for secretly combing through the phone records of reporters and editors at The Associated Press in what looks like a fishing expedition for sources and an effort to frighten off whistle-blowers."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/15/op....html?hp&_r=1&

You know, with this sudden proliferation of available scandals- each and every one of which intimately involves the Whitehouse, even when it doesn't- it is not inconceivable to imagine that the Obama administration might be tempted to take it's eye off the ball with respect to the resumption of peace talks between Israel and the PNA.


Or am I being a social terrorist again?

Originally Posted by sabang

You know, with this sudden proliferation of available scandals- each and every one of which intimately involves the Whitehouse, even when it doesn't- it is not inconceivable to imagine that the Obama administration might be tempted to take it's eye off the ball with respect to the resumption of peace talks between Israel and the PNA.


Or am I being a social terrorist again?

Recall how BJ Bill all caught up with the Monica Lewinsky Scandal shot off a rocket or two into some empty camels tents and baby food factories?

Look for Barry to slink off to the links a lot more now...

H'mm, yes- as I expected. The libbie schmedia is all but ignoring the pending talks between the Israeli & Palestinian PM's, featuring the Heinzguy as schlepper. Now, considering we are talking here about one of the longest running, erm, bones of contention between Israelica and pretty much the rest of the world, dontcha reckon it might just deserve a smidgen more space in the western media? Apparently not- a Google news search for the past week reveals very little. How coincidental that the same week has seen an explosion of awkward, time and media consuming 'gates' which, in the case of AP & IRA at least, had actually been smoldering for quite a while.

The last actual 'news' on it is a week old-
Kerry says Israel, Palestinians serious about peace
Kerry is due to meet Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on May 21 or 22 to try to revive long-stalled Middle East peace talks.
Kerry says Israel, Palestinians serious about peace | Reuters

From the mighty sword of Oman-

Kerry wants us to ignore reality and let the pretension of quest go on. To him or to his president peace or resolution of conflict is not important the pomposity of the effort to resolve is. Paradox of situation, therefore, shall remain and continue ad infinitum. Kerry's supposed initiative will not go anywhere as it is not designed to succeed.
Times of Oman | Column :: It is show time folks! Enjoy the new farce


Media bias isn't hard to find, but if I may tip you off booner, where 'you' predictably find it is exactly where you are meant to find it. Thus ignoring the real transgressions elsewhere, which have certainly increased in the modern era, coincident with a concentration of ownership of mass media.

Originally Posted by sabang

Media bias isn't hard to find, but if I may tip you off booner, where 'you' predictably find it is exactly where you are meant to find it. Thus ignoring the real transgressions elsewhere, which have certainly increased in the modern era, coincident with a concentration of ownership of mass media.

Perhaps although there's no greater example of Media Bias we can focus on than the coverage Obama has had for 4.5 years. The reason why Fast Furious, SolarGate etc haven't received the attention they deserve. That's the most glaring example you can cite but now, with APGate and the subsequent news that members of Congress have been bugged too, believe the gloves are off for Barry.

Actually the media has gotten totally away from reporting news to altering news. During the 3-missing women coverage, one National TV station apparently overlayed the US flag over the Puerto Rican flag that flew on the suspects house.

On the Boston Marathon bombing, only Fox News came out with immediate coverage depicting the suspects as Muslim.

On many US local news stations and newspapers, crime suspect identities will not state upfront if the suspect is a Negro, rather they just show a picture (if available).

Apparently "PC" news is the current fashion.

RickThai

Originally Posted by RickThai

Apparently "PC" news is the current fashion.

The only reason you bother about this 'PC' so much in the states, is because you have so much racial frisson.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Perhaps although there's no greater example of Media Bias we can focus on than the coverage Obama has had for 4.5 years. The reason why Fast Furious, SolarGate etc haven't received the attention they deserve. That's the most glaring example you can cite but now, with APGate and the subsequent news that members of Congress have been bugged too, believe the gloves are off for Barry.

Attention they've 'deserved'? They had their moment in the sun and people realised it's yet more Republican propaganda, and rightly rolled their eyes and moved on - as they are doing now.

Originally Posted by RickThai

On the Boston Marathon bombing, only Fox News came out with immediate coverage depicting the suspects as Muslim.

Yes, that's what they always do, like they did in Oklahoma. That's because they're racist bigots.

Remember Erik Rush?

Then when he was asked by another Twitter user whether he was blaming Muslims for the attack, Mr Rush responded: “Yes, they’re evil. Let’s kill them all.”

Proud of that are you?