Thread: This will be Interesting... Rest in Peace our public worker unions

Originally Posted by sabang

I have arrived at the conclusion that the biggest problem in the USA is actually ignorance and stupidity.

no, you think ?

Originally Posted by sabang

Other people always take advantage of that.

that's power, and it's cheap to accomplish, keep the mass stupid by giving them cheap mobiles and American Idol

Union Goon Wants to Vote for Fidel Castro, Clone Che Guevara

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=LdrzIL2XTtI

At least these socialist assholes are honest about what they want to impose: America "fundamentally transformed" into a totalitarian collectivist hell on earth....

Let's bash the unions and the lowly paid worker in unions, while the Wall Street banksters, frauds, and manipulators not only get off, but get rewarded for the deeds.

An culture and nation, that is truly lost....

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If these lazy union workers were lowly paid workers there would be no issue.

Smarten up

Originally Posted by Lorenzo

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If these lazy union workers were lowly paid workers there would be no issue.

Smarten up

I think the problem with the unions/gov employees is much like the problems that people rail about withe rich in the Private sector.
There are a good % of people in the union who are very hard working and not looking for a hand out. but then in the union you have the same thing that we see in the government and the rich in private industry. I would be really curious to follow the money trail of the folks who run the union as well.. Might be surprising... The thing bothers me maybe as much or more than the salary/benefit issues is the fact that if you have tenure it is hard to be fired regardless of your performance. I think the thing that is being missed here is that the people with tenure are the ones who have it made... Work 20 years and get a 6 figure plus taxpayer funded pension? WOW>. .. NO THANKS... Ill take my chances to do it myself I don't need the rich, the union or the government to do it for me....

I have to say this in regards to the views I see on both Republicans and Democrats...
1. Democrats and their spending is going to kill us. The way they want to erode the values that we were taught growing up is insane. (Yes I know the old argument about Bush and his spending) Here's the thing I Bush would have run as a Democrat the party of Obama/Clinton would have loved him... Another thing... What about this 2007 call of "Not one more day, not one more dollar, not one more American life" ? Seems to me the party that promised to bring our soldiers home seems to have forgotten that promise... Guess they were all brain washed by SCIOPS huh?

2. Republicans. Right now its all about how the conservatives in the republican party are in control and so on.. Problem is the people in the republican party today don't fit into the mold of conservatives. They are only interested in regaining power, and to do that they need to appear to keep a few of the promises they made during the campaign. Don't misunderstand I find my self leaning more towards supporting them than the dems but to be honest I don't like/trust any of them. Now I know what I have said here is going to make a few Republicans mad and thats okay.. The fact of the matter is what is passing for conservatives today would have been called far LEFT 50 years ago. oh and G BUSH well I heard it said once that he was a "liberal in conservative clothing" and that is very true.

One final thing... I heard an advert for a CD of great conservative speeches.... I found myself saddened and disgusted by the fact that they roll the likes of Palin, Bush, and McCain into the same company as Ron Regan... That is an insult to Regan....

Originally Posted by Lorenzo

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If these lazy union workers were lowly paid workers there would be no issue.

Explain.

Here's a good sign that speaks the reality of it all:

Reality? How? Where? To what degree?

This is not about "reality" but perception.

I cannot note the specifics of teacher unions, I think they are needed.

Over 50% of those who go into teaching in the U.S. leave teaching within 5 years.

Education is not valued highly in the United States.

Look at the value placed on the military and military industrial complex and Pentagon compared to education.

Good priorities?

in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.

Mein Kampf

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

the public service union demise

Because the obvious and current demise of the USA has nothing to do with them- but everything to do with the people selling you, the Great Unwashed, this arrant nonsense. They are selling you the Great Lie- and many of you are swallowing it like guppies.

You already have the lowest minimum wages, worst social security, highest wealth gap and lowest rate of unionisation in the developed world. You also have the worst Health care coverage- yet it costs almost triple that of other developed countries. Besides the basket cases, you also have the highest rate of unemployment and worse debt burden too.

I would describe the current USA as a false flag operation. Enjoy.

BOMB THREAT At Scott Walker News Conference – Leftist Protester Arrested

Far Left protester Patrick J. Knauf, 43, of Eau Claire was arrested on Wednesday for the violation of making a bomb scare under state statute 947.015.

On Wednesday a bomb threat was made at an aviation business in Eau Claire just hours after Governor Scott Walker spoke there. Police brought in a man who was protesting this week against the Republican governor.

Don't expect the Lamestream media to report this news tidbit, eh...

The Pierce County Herald

Originally Posted by Tunaka

Let's bash the unions and the lowly paid worker in unions

Lowly paid, eh?

Average Annual Compensation for Milwaukee Teachers is $101,091

. . . The posting quoted MPS’ budget manager as saying that the average MPS teacher would receive total compensation of $101,091 — $59,500 in salary and $41,591 in benefits.
We double-checked with MPS spokeswoman Roseann St. Aubin and she confirmed the figures.
We wanted to compare the $101,091 for MPS teachers to other teachers, but the latest figurescompiled by the state Department of Public Instruction are for 2009-2010, two years earlier.
Those figures show for 2009-2010, MPS teachers earned, on average, $56,095 in salary plus $30,202 in benefits, for a total of $86,297.
That was lower than eight other school districts in Milwaukee County, including Greendale, Greenfield, Shorewood, Cudahy, Fox Point, South Milwaukee, Franklin and Nicolet, which was highest at just over $103,000.
Let’s return to the MacIver Institute claim.
The conservative think tank said the average annual compensation for a Milwaukee Public Schools teacher would exceed $100,000 in 2011. As of July 1, 2011, according to the school district, that figure will be $101,091.


http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...-salary-and-b/

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

At least these socialist assholes are honest about what they want to impose: America "fundamentally transformed" into a totalitarian collectivist hell on earth....

Did you ever notice how many labor unions exist in totalitarian countries (collectivist or not)? Actually, the answer is none. In a healthy society, labor unions are a counter-balance against the excesses of big government and big business. Name a country in modern history that has eliminated labor unions I'll name you a fascist or communist country.

Originally Posted by sabang

Because the obvious and current demise of the USA has nothing to do with them- but everything to do with the people selling you, the Great Unwashed, this arrant nonsense. They are selling you the Great Lie- and many of you are swallowing it like guppies.

You already have the lowest minimum wages, worst social security, highest wealth gap and lowest rate of unionisation in the developed world. You also have the worst Health care coverage- yet it costs almost triple that of other developed countries. Besides the basket cases, you also have the highest rate of unemployment and worse debt burden too.

I would describe the current USA as a false flag operation. Enjoy.

The part in bold says it all.

Only a minute few have realized this in the last couple of years, yet these serious problems have existed for decades (except for the high unemployment).

The masses are asleep.

The 'masses' are waking up - to wit:
Collective Bargaining in Action: $10K a Year For Not Working, $6K to Carry a Pager, Two Pensions

Today Governor Walker’s office released more specific examples and new details to show how collective bargaining fiscally impacts government and how reforming collective bargaining can improve government.
A Year’s Worth of Pay for 30 Days of Work
Under the Green Bay School District’s collectively bargained Emeritus Program, teaches can retire and receive a year’s worth of salary for working only 30 days over a three year period. This is paid in addition to their already guaranteed pension and health care payouts.
At the average annual salary for a Green Bay teacher of $51,355, this amounts to a daily rate of pay of $1,711.83, or an hourly rate of $213.98. Since most retiring teachers receive higher than average salary, these amounts are, in practice, much higher.


140 teacher retirement requests approved


There's more to warm the cockles of your socialists' hearts:


Yesterday the Governor’s office released these examples of the fiscal impact of collective bargaining.
No Volunteer Crossing Guards Allowed
A Wausau public employee union filed a grievance to prohibit a local volunteer from serving as a school crossing guard. The 86-year-old lives just two blocks away and serves everyday free of charge.
Principal Steve Miller says, “He said, you know, this gives me a reason to get up in the morning to come and help these kids in the neighborhood.”
But for a local union that represents crossing guards, it isn’t that simple. Representatives didn’t want to go on camera but say if a crossing guard is needed, then one should be officially hired by the city.
Source: WAOW-TV, 1/27/10
$6,000 Extra for Carrying a Pager
Some state employees, due to the nature of their positions, are required to carry pagers during off-duty hours in order to respond to emergency situations. Due to the collective bargaining agreements, these employees are compensated an extra five hours of pay each week, whether they are paged or not.
For an employee earning an average salary of $50,000 per year, this requirement can cost more than $6,000 in additional compensation.
Source: 2008-09 Agreement between the State of Wisconsin and AFSCME Council 24
$150,000 Correctional Officers
Correctional Officer collective bargaining agreements allow officers a practice known as “sick leave stacking.” Officers can call in sick for a shift, receiving 8 hours of sick pay, and then are allowed to work the very next shift, earning time-and-a-half for overtime. This results in the officer receiving 2.5 times his or her rate of pay, while still only working 8 hours.
In part because of these practices, 13 correctional officers made more than $100,000 in 2009, despite earning base wages of less than $60,000 per year. The officers received an average of $66,000 in overtime pay for an average annual salary of more than $123,000 with the highest paid receiving $151,181.
Source: Department of Corrections
The $150,000 Bus Driver
In 2009, the City of Madison’s highest paid employee was a bus driver who earned $159,258, including $109,892 in overtime, guaranteed by a collective bargaining agreement. In total, seven City of Madison bus drivers made more than $100,000 per year in 2009.
“That’s the (drivers’) contract,” said Transit and Parking Commission Chairman Gary Poulson.
Source: Wisconsin State Journal, 2/7/10
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18 Wisconsin Republicans received death threats in one week! Not only are the “tolerant” leftists calling for the death of Governor Scott Walker.

Not only are they sending Republicans senators death threats by email.
They’re slipping death threats under their doors.

What did Ronald Reagan say about Unions? He supported them:

Heh...here we go again.

SCREAMING UNION THUGS Dragged Away By Troopers After Barging Into TN Capitol Senate Committee Meeting

The radical left was at it again today…
Shrieking union thugs were dragged away by state troopers after barging into a Tennessee Senate Committee Meeting.

Labor backers arrested at Tenn. Capitol protest

One by one these States are going to bust the evil unions...

Heh...THE “SMOKING GUN” of the Wisconsin Teachers’ Union Sickout. “Now there is proof that the sickout was a premeditated, union-authorized job action — a phone tree of teachers calling other teachers to close down the schools. This kind of activity is prohibited by the union’s own contract and illegal in WI Statute Chapter 111.84(2)(e).”