open up Auschwitz again, that'll show themOriginally Posted by taxexile
open up Auschwitz again, that'll show themOriginally Posted by taxexile
Lots of prisons like that around taxexile, like here in Thailand, but it's not working the criminals have a high return rate never mind how bad a hellhole they come from, this has all been tried tested and has failed, the dehumanising can be so severe in prisons like that, that they come out far worse and much more dangerous than they where when they went in.
At the same time their fear of returning makes them more desperate and effectively much more dangerous since they will go very far to avoid being caught.
There is only one sure way to keep criminals from committing crime and that is to keep them inside, but that has to be weighed against the seriousness of the crimes committed and society's willingness to effectively bury people alive for the rest of their natural life's.
There is nothing more easy than terrorise people you have in your power, that is not the issue here, the issue is simply, is that a society we want to live in doing that, making prisons concentration-camps, torturing people with fear and intimidation, beatings ect. without it being for acute reasons of protecting other prisoners or staff, does it have any reasonable purpose in form of positive results? and the answer is no.
Last edited by larvidchr; 28-09-2010 at 10:57 PM.
Well there ya go. Much better issue than just discussing non discrimination of HIV positive inmates into the general prison population.Originally Posted by larvidchr
I take it back. Carry on. I'll give it some thought and post later.Originally Posted by Norton
then why bother even arresting them if you think punishment serves no purpose.without it being for acute reasons of protecting other prisoners or staff, does it have any reasonable purpose in form of positive results? and the answer is no.
how else are we to punish offenders, taking away their freedom is one way, but if their lives inside are full of comforts etc. then the punishment is diluted and ineffectual. i do believe that punishment must consist of hardships, otherwise there is no point. from what i have heard of uk prisons, from a couple of "friends" that have served time, they called it a holiday camp.
and do you not think that the satisfaction the victims of violent crime may get from knowing that their attackers are not free is a positive result.
to see someone who has done you wrong especially if that wrong was violent, punished, is surely a human right. what happens to victims ( those still alive that is) when they hear that their attacker is given a lenient sentence, or is allowed priviledges whilst in prison. surely the victims wishes should be taken into consideration?
i think, for violent offenders, a large proportion of society would be glad to see them put away for life, especially a second or third time offender.There is only one sure way to keep criminals from committing crime and that is to keep them inside, but that has to be weighed against the seriousness of the crimes committed and society's willingness to effectively bury people alive for the rest of their natural life's.
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