Thread: Allah The Compassionate?????/

WTF am i doing in their country??? Check this out for absolute sickness...

Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment - Yahoo! News (sorry, not sure how to post the full article)

Seriously, even animals rarely, if ever, inflict pain purely out of vengeance. These sad f$%ks need to be eliminated.

Originally Posted by theoldbugger

WTF am i doing in their country??? Check this out for absolute sickness...

Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment - Yahoo! News (sorry, not sure how to post the full article)

Seriously, even animals rarely, if ever, inflict pain purely out of vengeance. These sad f$%ks need to be eliminated.

"We ordained therein for them: 'Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.' But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) wrong-doers." - Koran 5:45

It's in the Koran. These are the words of Allah. Do you presume that Allah may not be quite as Compassionate and Merciful as he claims?

Tosser: Not sure if this is allowed on TD, since it may be too sensitive for Muslims and their hate-filled supporters.

Anyway, a while back a Muslim woman was blinded by her husband who threw acid into her face.

The Sharia court determined that she be allowed to blind him in return. He was bound on the floor face up. Under supervision, she felt her way to his face, retrieved the acid which was in a suitable dispenser nearby, and dropped I believe twenty drops of acid into each of his eyes.

Job done, and Allah satisfied.

Want a real shock. They actually kill people in the US for the crimes they commit! What a sick wacko place that is.

How can people criticize when they approve of using violence or torture against criminals in their own countries?

^irrational idiots?

I'm not sure many would interfere if due judicial process had been observed, the crime fitted the punishment, and killing was done with less barbaric methods, when the barbaric killings in "your" name also spreads to the neighbors they are likely to protest, and that is understandable.

Executing a scumbag cowardice murderer in Texas hardly poses a threat in Tehran.

But executing a minor Girl in Iran after the customary rape and torture, for something not even considered a crime in the developed World, and they then also demand those medieval customs to be accepted and incorporated in the developed World then we do have moral and protection Issues.

We in the West do know we have the moral high ground here, we simply have moved much further ahead because we have not been shackled by an ancient cruel rulebook, there is no need to be shy or to hide that fact out of misunderstood "cultural understanding" we have a duty to our fellow man to fight wrong everywhere, just like we have a duty to help where we can when natural disasters strike.

Duty is as heavy as a mountain
death as light as a feather

What is written in ancient outdated christian fantasy books, fortunately no longer correlates with any sentencing in most Western court rooms, I do however realize that the US is slightly behind the rest of us also in that context.

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by keda

The Sharia court determined that she be allowed to blind him in return.

To be expected in backward ass nations who still practice "laws" written well over 3,000 years ago.

leviticus 24:19-24:21

Anyone who maims another shall suffer the same injury in return: fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; the injury inflicted is the injury to be suffered. One who kills an animal shall make restitution for it; but one who kills a human being shall be put to death.

exodus 21:22-21:25

When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no further harm follows, the one responsible shall be fined what the woman’s husband demands, paying as much as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

deuteronomy 19:21-19:21

Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

Excellent distraction, but no surprise. If you need more ammo for future distractions a brief google can provide you with several even more violent passages.

Now, please provide links to where these atrocities are being committed today, in the name of a god, whether Compassionate and Merciful or not.

You are writing as though the deed had been done. What is evident here is that the sharia court doesn\'t have carte blanche even in Saudi Arabia. Why do you not mention that several hospitals refused to do the religious court\'s ruling? Is not selective reading detrimental to the argument presented?

Where do you think the Muslims got these laws if not from the Old Testament? It is the common book of all three Abrahamic faiths.

What distinuishes us from them is that some of them still practice these laws. Of these, the Saudis are our closest allies in the ME

Originally Posted by keda

Excellent distraction, but no surprise.

What are you on about? Same "laws" for all Abrahamic based faiths.

Originally Posted by Norton

To be expected in backward ass nations who still practice "laws" written well over 3,000 years ago.

Read the post before you go off with half cocked reply.

Originally Posted by Norton

eye for eye

all may not agree..i care not..number plate on me NIGHTY 14ANI..

IF i have to come to your ill attentions i will oblige you.
it ain,t rocket science

An eye for an eye was basically the old code of justice. Some might say it feeds into 'do as you would be done by'.

Most nations, including most Moslem nations, have moved on from this primitive code of justice. Nevertheless, in spirited pub (and forum) talk there is still plenty of call for it, especially when discussing some lurid crime and what should be done with the perpetrators.

I don't see the problem. If the scum is found guilty by a court, take him out back and let the family of the paralyzed victim kick the snot out of him.

Then chop off his hands so he doesn't do it again.

And make him say, "Sorry."

This guy was allowed life for almost 20 years after he led a gang that brutally assaulted, beat, gang raped, and murdered two teenage girls, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena. He showed no remorse ever.

HUNTSVILLE, Texas (Aug. 17) -- The leader of a former gang of Houston teenagers who raped and murdered two young girls walking home from a neighborhood party 17 years ago was executed Tuesday in Texas.
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Trying to make it to Pena's home before an 11:30 p.m. curfew in June 1993, Jennifer, 14, and Elizabeth, 16, took a shortcut after leaving the party that led to a railroad bridge near where the gang members were hanging out drinking and initiating a new member. The group spotted the girls and grabbed Pena, who screamed. Ertman tried to help her friend.

What happened next was "a feeding frenzy," according to Donna Goode, a former Harris County assistant district attorney who was one of Cantu's prosecutors.

The girls were gang raped for more than an hour and forced to perform oral sex. They were kicked, had teeth knocked out and hair pulled out. Their ribs were broken. A red nylon belt was pulled so tightly around Ertman's neck the belt snapped. Shoe laces were used to strangle Pena.

"You're talking about absolute brutality - strangled with hands, strangled with ligatures, belts, shoestrings," Don Smyth, Goode's prosecution partner, recalled. "And just to be sure, they were stomped on their faces and their throats were crushed."

Peter Anthony Cantu, Gang Leader in Houston, Texas, Executed

Yep, I'd say that's a good reason for the death penalty. He died peacefully. I hope the girls are waiting for him.

The Sharia court determined that she be allowed to blind him in return. He was bound on the floor face up. Under supervision, she felt her way to his face, retrieved the acid which was in a suitable dispenser nearby, and dropped I believe twenty drops of acid into each of his eyes.

that's justice, sweet in its purity.

i'm all for it. forget stupid christian compassion and forgiveness that does nothing but encourage violence, offenders know that there is little punishment to fear, this is the one aspect of islam that makes sense. hit someone, and youll get hit back, take someones eyesight, and youll lose yours.

It 's too stone- agey for me. I like to think of myself as civilized.

But I like the 3- strikes rule that exists in some of the US states.

Originally Posted by keda

Now, please provide links to where these atrocities are being committed today, in the name of a god, whether Compassionate and Merciful or not.

Lords Resistance Army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army

Christian anti-abortionists who murder.

Originally Posted by Pol the Pot

It 's too stone- agey for me. I like to think of myself as civilized.

But I like the 3- strikes rule that exists in some of the US states.

I very much agree, though with some adjustments to target the genetic deformities on the 3rd strike, rather than the hapless that get busted for some minor offence.

That said, in my ideal world you could forget the 3rd strike for some of the scum, since the chances of them committing the second would be slim indeed.

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

Duty is as heavy as a mountain
death as light as a feather

The wheel of time turns.