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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Flashback: July 25, 2011, “I swore an oath to uphold the laws on the books. . . I know some people want me to bypass Congress and change the laws on my own — that’s not how our system works


    24 days later he announced de facto amnesty for illegal immigrants.


    What a guy!



    it's in his best interest to garner favor with the 'future population giant' that people from latin america represent.

    his base & the future population majority of america will hopefully reciprocate down the line

    the repub-vangelicals hate him no matter what .. so why not

    throw me into the 'hates america demographic' if that means despising all that the repub-vangelicals represent.
    i wonder how many here 'bouts are in the top 2% of earners that the home schooled teavangelists policy wonks endorse.

    now if he will outlaw procreation for persons with a double digit (or less) IQ ,,,
    and force abortion for teavangelists parents
    as long as there are tests, there will be prayers in public schools.

    US political pondering: what % of CO2 deniers are also birthers who believe kangaroos walked to the ark

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    The main beneficiaries of the current illegal immigration impasse are strong backers of the Republican party. They benefit from the cheap labor, and face virtually no legal consequences from hiring illegal labor. It suits them fine to have the Teabaggers barking up the wrong tree as usual by saying 'secure the border', by which they mean the 2000 mile land border between the US and Mexico. As if that would solve the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The main beneficiaries of the current illegal immigration impasse are strong backers of the Republican party. They benefit from the cheap labor, and face virtually no legal consequences from hiring illegal labor. It suits them fine to have the Teabaggers barking up the wrong tree as usual by saying 'secure the border', by which they mean the 2000 mile land border between the US and Mexico. As if that would solve the issue.

    100% agreed Mr. Sabang.

    the most vocal calls for stopping spanish speaking immigrants into the land of the free are those directly competing with non-english speakers / the un educated.
    in my estimation the same uneducated & barely english speaking white trash comprise the majority of teavangelists.
    i enjoy cheap the produce & have never felt my job was threatened by a wet back.

    I do think a lime on top of my corona bottle is stupid!

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    California “Dream Act” bill to fund college for undocumented immigrants advances

    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A California bill dubbed the state's "Dream Act" that would allow illegal immigrants to receive public funds for college education was approved on Wednesday by the state Senate.

    The legislation would still need to pass the Assembly and be signed by Governor Jerry Brown, a Democrat, to become law.

    Proponents acknowledge that illegal immigrants who attend college are still not able to find legal employment after graduation, but they say the bill could eventually help spur the federal government to grant those students citizenship.

    "The Senate made history today by voting to pass ... the final portion of the California Dream Act," Assembly member Gil Cedillo, a Democrat from Los Angeles and the author of the bill, said in a statement.

    Cedillo said that, if the bill is approved, it would "increase the earning potential of these students, which helps all of us by contributing to our tax base."

    Brown in July fulfilled a campaign promise by signing into law a related bill to allow illegal immigrants to receive privately funded college scholarships, but not public funds.

    The latest bill would go into effect in 2013 and could cost the California budget about $40 million a year, but not all of that would go to immigrants because some legal residents from other states could qualify for the funds as well, according to an analysis prepared for a state Senate committee.

    Ira Mehlman, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, said the bill would hurt California.

    "The state is slashing budgets, they're cutting admissions, they're cutting programs, and here they are using scarce resources to help illegal aliens, when so many other people are feeling the brunt of these budget cuts," Mehlman said.

    The bill passed the Democratic-controlled state Senate on Wednesday by a vote of 22-11, said Conrado Terrazas, spokesman for Cedillo's office.

    The Assembly is expected to vote this week on the bill.

    California is one of about a dozen states that allows illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition, based on attendance and graduation from a state high school. Only a handful of states also allow for financial aid for those students.

    A federal Dream Act that would have created a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants who attend college or serve in the military failed in the U.S. Senate last year.

    Link: California “Dream Act” bill to fund college for undocumented immigrants advances | The Raw Story
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Ala. immigration law marked by Hispanic school absences

    WASHINGTON – A federal judge's decision last week that left Alabama's strict new immigration law largely intact is already having a major impact throughout the state, as hundreds of Hispanic children stayed away from school.

    The judge allowed several aspects of the state's anti-immigration law to go into effect, including a provision that requires schools to check the immigration status of students.

    Federal law requires public schools to provide K-12 education to illegal immigrants, but the Alabama law requires that schools verify the immigration status of children enrolling for the first time.

    That information will go only to the state Department of Education so officials can better account for how much the state spends educating illegal immigrants.

    Even though school officials have been telling parents that there won't be immigration agents awaiting them at the school doors, the message hasn't reached everyone.

    In Montgomery, the state capital, 231 Hispanic children were absent from school Thursday, the first day the law went into effect, according to Superintendent Barbara Thompson. She said school officials would begin calling the parents of children that continue to miss school to assure them they have nothing to fear.

    "Obviously, there's a fear factor about what the law is in regard to the schools," said Keith Ward, a spokesman for Huntsville City Schools, which also reported high absenteeism Thursday and Friday. "We're not doing any enforcement. We're in the business and have the obligation to educate all students. For us, it's just data collection."

    Tuscaloosa City Schools reported at least 10 Hispanic parents withdrawing their children from school late last week, while other parents requested withdrawal papers as well.

    Tuscaloosa Superintendent Paul McKendrick said he's disappointed to see children leaving the district when their families run no risk of being deported simply for going to school.

    McKendrick said he understands the pressures that the families are under and the fear that the new law has created.

    "You may hear information and not be sure how valid it is," he said. "I can understand why parents would be leery of anything that they hear and just try to protect their children and stay in this country."

    Lost class time isn't the only thing worrying school officials. Funding for Alabama schools is dependent on the number of students it has, and Thompson said a mass exodus would dry up funds, which would hurt all students. She estimated that the district would lose $2 million if the 231 students who were absent on Thursday decided to stay away for good.

    "When one student drops out, it affects the funding for the entire system," she said.

    Officials with the Alabama Department of Education met Friday to discuss ways to better communicate with the Hispanic community.

    "It's unfortunate that rumors and falsehoods have led to the kind of hysteria that we see in the state right now," said Michael Sibley, a spokesman for the department. "The idea that there'll be any consequences to the child … or legal repercussions if the parent is in the country illegally are misunderstandings that we are desperately trying to clear up."

    Link: Ala. immigration law marked by Hispanic school absences

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    California DREAM Act Becomes Reality

    Over the weekend, California Governor Jerry Brown signed AB 131 into law. The legislation joins AB 130, which was signed earlier this year. Together, the two bills authored by Gil Cedillo will allow AB 540 students to apply for and receive scholarships at private and public colleges and universities starting in 2012 and 2013 respectively. Undocumented students now how a greater means to finance their educational aspirations. Unlike the federal DREAM Act, the California DREAM Act does not provide a pathway to citizenship and where future graduates will go with degrees in hand remains an open question. Still, it is a great victory for all those student activists and allies who have worked hard to arrive to this day.

    “Going to college is a dream that promises intellectual excitement and creative thinking. The Dream Act benefits us all by giving top students a chance to improve their lives and the lives of all of us,” Brown said in a written statement. This is welcomed, given the fact that the Governor could have cowered to xenophobia and deny the public college portion of the legislation.

    For more information, the following is a California Dream Act Fact Sheet on the legislation provided by the Dream Resource Center:

    Background: California DREAM Act Becomes Reality | Orange Juice

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    Initiative would let illegal immigrants work in Calif. legally

    SACRAMENTO, Calif.-Nearly 1 million undocumented immigrants could live and work openly in California with little or no fear of deportation under an initiative unveiled Friday by a state legislator and others.

    Assemblyman Felipe Fuentes, a Democrat, is helping spearhead the measure, called the California Opportunity and Prosperity Act.

    The proposal was filed Friday with the state Attorney General's Office, marking a first step toward a drive to collect the 504,760 voter signatures needed to qualify for the ballot.

    Fuentes called the measure a "moderate, common-sense approach" necessitated by the federal government's inability to pass comprehensive immigration reform.
    "I hope this shows Washington, D.C., that if they fail to act, California will take the lead on this critical issue," Fuentes said in a written statement.

    Supporters say the initiative could generate up to $325 million in new tax revenue from undocumented workers that could assist education, public safety and other state programs.

    Regardless whether Californians would support such a measure, implementation would depend upon the federal government agreeing not to prosecute participants.

    Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, a Republican, blasted the proposal as an attempt to sidestep immigration law. He predicted that it wouldn't have a "snowball's chance in hell" of winning voter approval.

    "There's a proper process for coming to this country," Donnelly said. "Why don't you respect that?"

    The proposed initiative would apply to illegal immigrants who have lived in California for four years, have no felony convictions, are not suspected terrorists, pay a fee to administer the program, and can speak English or are learning it.


    moving forward: Initiative would let illegal immigrants work in Calif. legally

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    The Obama administration plans a rule change to help reduce the time illegal immigrant spouses and children are separated from citizen relatives while they try to win legal status in the United States, a senior administration official said Thursday.

    Currently, illegal immigrants must leave the country before they can ask the government to waive a three- to 10-year ban on legally coming back to the U.S. The length of the ban depends on how long they have lived in the U.S. without permission.

    The official said the new rule would let children and spouses of citizens ask the government to decide on the waiver request before the illegal immigrant heads to his or her home country to apply for a visa. The illegal immigrants still must go home to finish the visa process to come back to the U.S., but getting the waiver ahead of time could reduce the time an illegal immigrant is out of the country.

    More: AP source: Admin. Plans Change in Immigration Rule - TIME

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ^ I'm sure he's smarter than that. Illegals can't vote.
    Duh, how come you think the liberals are fighting "voter ID" laws? If you don't have to show an ID anyone can vote (felons, mexicans, nigerians, etc.).

    If we want to do a "blanket amnesty", in order for it to be fair, we have to do it for the entire world. Anything else would be "racial profling".

    Let's say "Welcome" to the hundreds of millions of Chinese and Indians who would love to get a free ticket to the USA.

    Not to mention the 10s of millions of Africans, etc, who would also love to come live in the great Welfare State of the USA.

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    From Obama’s state of the union address this evening,…….

    I believe as strongly as ever that we should take on illegal immigration. That’s why my Administration has put more boots on the border than ever before. That’s why there are fewer illegal crossings than when I took office.

    The opponents of action are out of excuses. We should be working on comprehensive immigration reform right now. But if election-year politics keeps Congress from acting on a comprehensive plan, let’s at least agree to stop expelling responsible young people who want to staff our labs, start new businesses, and defend this country. Send me a law that gives them the chance to earn their citizenship. I will sign it right away.


    Hope it gets done, sooner rather than later: US Politics | AMERICAblog News: State of the Union open thread, and full text

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    Obama tells Univision he'll be in White House 'another five years'

    President Obama declared Monday that his presidency “is not over” and that he’ll be occupying the White House for another five years.

    In an interview with Univision, a seemingly confident Obama said he'll have more time to work on hot-button issues like immigration in his next term.

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    "Well, first of all ... my presidency is not over," Obama, who just a few months ago described himself as an underdog in the presidential race, said in a telephone interview.

    "I've got another five years coming up. We're going to get this done,” he said.

    Obama’s campaign sees Hispanic voters as a key to his reelection, and the president sought to pin blame on Congress for the lack of progress on immigration reform.

    "But ultimately, the only way we're going to do this is to get something passed through Congress, and that's why we have to keep the pressure up," Obama said.

    "Unfortunately, the Republican side, which used to at least give lip service to immigration reform, now they've gone completely to a different place, and have shown themselves unwilling to talk at all about any sensible solutions to this issue, and we're going to have to just keep up the pressure until they act," he said.

    The president also emphasized that while he is supportive of immigration reform, those running against him are not.

    Without mentioning Gov. Mitt Romney by name, Obama said, "their leading candidate said he would veto even the DREAM Act, much less comprehensive immigration reform."

    The president’s political strategy was underscored by a Democratic National Committee Web ad that was launched on Thursday.

    The ad criticizes Romney’s support for an anti-illegal immigration law in Arizona that the Obama administration opposes. Romney mentioned his support for the law during Wednesday night’s debate.

    The president also urged Latino voters to vote Democrat.

    "When it comes to Congress, all your listeners have to look and see: Are those members of Congress — are they committing to getting this done?" Obama said.

    Obama maintained that he hadn't broken a promise to pass immigration reform, despite a perception by some voters in the Latino community.

    "I would have only broken my promise if I hadn't tried," he said. "But ultimately, I'm one man. You know, we live in a democracy. We don't live in a monarchy. I'm not the king. I'm the president. And so, I can only implement those laws that are passed through Congress."

    link: Obama tells Univision he'll be in White House 'another five years' - TheHill.com

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    Get ready to revise your Newspeak dictionary. The Third World hordes Democrats are deliberately using to displace America’s native population say using the term illegal aliens is “offensive.”

    "In Utah, a Latino legislator tried to propose legislation that would require lawmakers to undergo “cultural sensitivity training” as part of their orientation that would have taught them to start using the term undocumented immigrant. In Utah, lawmakers still refer to the undocumented as “illegal aliens” — a term some people call almost as offensive as the n-word."

    Almost Half of Latino Voters Find 'Illegal Immigrant' Offensive, Says Poll | Fox News Latino

    Sensitivity training indeed!


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    The USA and all countries should open up all the doors to the world's poor and ignorant. Only when the entire world has reach the bottom, can Darwinism "kick in" and set things right.

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    snip, snip, snip,.........

    Last year, the Department of Homeland Security announced they would enact a top-to-bottom review of all deportations, with an eye to prioritizing deportations for only violent criminals and repeat offenders. But the results were meager: only 2% of all deportations were avoided under the reviews. After a torrent of criticism, DHS chief Janet Napolitano released a memorandum today outlining prosecutorial discretion guidelines for the future. Napolitano writes that “As a general matter, these individuals lacked the intent to violate the law … additional measures are necessary to ensure that our enforcement resources are not expended on these low priority cases but are instead appropriately focused on people who meet our enforcement priorities.”

    To qualify for this protection, an individual must have come to America under the age of sixteen; has continuously resided in the US for the last five years; is currently either in school or the military, or has graduated from high school or been discharged from the armed forces; has not been convicted of a felony or a serious misdemeanor; and is not above the age of thirty. Immigrants in the deportation system have 60 days to prove their eligibility under this standard.

    In addition to protection from deportation, these individuals will be able to apply for work permits during the period of deferred action, which is indefinite. However, Napolitano writes that “this memorandum confers no substantive right, immigration status or path to citizenship,” and adds that “DHS cannot provide any assurance that relief will be granted in all cases.”

    The clear issue here is whether this announcement will translate to real relief. Latino activists have been burned by the deportation reviews and are probably more interested in verification that this latest proposal is working. ICE has been known to basically ignore memoranda like this.: White House to Grant Immunity, Work Permits to DREAMers

    To qualify for this protection (from: Secretary Janet Napolitano)

    The following criteria should be satisfied before an individual is considered for an exercise of prosecutorial discretion pursuant to this memorandum:

    • came to the United States under the age of sixteen;
    • has continuously resided in the United States for a least five years preceding the date of this memorandum and is present in the United States on the date ofthis memorandum;
    • is currently in school, has graduated from high school, has obtained a general education development certificate, or is an honorably discharged veteran of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States;
    • has not been convicted of a felony offense, a significant misdemeanor offense, multiple misdemeanor offenses, or otherwise poses a threat to national security or public safety; and
    • is not above the age of thirty.

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    Check this out. Obama Jobs Program: Help Illegals Compete with Americans for Scarce Jobs. Isn't that wonderful? With millions of Americans out of work, this POS in Big White wants to boost his failing reelection chances by going around Congress and rewrite the nation's immigration laws.

    "The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin granting work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and have since led law-abiding lives. The election-year initiative addresses a top priority of an influential Latino electorate that has been vocal in its opposition to administration deportation policies."

    Lovely...

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    Thousands of illegal immigrants to be allowed to stay and work in US

    Hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are to be allowed to stay and work in the United States after Barack Obama offered them a partial amnesty, in a major announcement.

    US President Barack Obama and First Lady Michele Obama tour the 22nd floor of One World Trade Center in New York yesterday Photo: EPA

    By Jon Swaine, Washington

    8:01PM BST 15 Jun 2012

    In a surprise move bound to boost his support among Latino voters in battleground states, the President said his administration would stop deporting law-abiding, undocumented young adults who were brought to the US as children, and would instead grant them work permits.

    He said the directive would "mend our nation's immigration policy to make it more fair, more efficient and more just".

    "These are young people who study in our schools, play in our neighbourhoods, are friends with our kids and pledge allegiance to our flag," said Mr Obama. "They are Americans in their heart, in their minds, in every single way but one: on paper."

    Mr Obama maintained that the move "is not amnesty, this is not immunity, this is not a path to citizenship, this is not a permanent fix", but added "This is the right thing to do".

    America's Voice, a pro-immigration reform pressure group, described the decision as "the biggest news on immigration in 25 years." Up to 800,000 are to be eligible for the scheme, which is open to those aged 30 or under who have been in the country five years, are in education or are military veterans, and have no major convictions.

    Janet Napolitano, Mr Obama's homeland security secretary, said laws on deportations should not be "blindly enforced" on "productive young people" who were in the US "through no fault of their own".

    There are up to 11 million illegal migrants in the US, up to two million of whom are young people brought in by their parents, according to migration group estimates.
    The order directly ushered in some parts of the Dream Act, a plan that went further by offering a path to citizenship to young migrants, which was blocked by Republicans in Congress in 2010.
    The proposed Act, which the Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney pledged to veto, is a key priority for many Latino voters, whose ballots could prove decisive in toss-up states such as Florida, Colorado and Nevada in November's presidential election.
    Republicans were furious at being circumvented. Marco Rubio, a Senator for Florida, claimed the order would wreck attempts to comprehensively overhaul illegal immigration. "By once again ignoring the Constitution and going around Congress, this short-term policy will make it harder to find a balanced and responsible long-term one," he said.
    Steve King, a Republican congressman for Iowa, pledged to sue the Obama administration to prevent the directive being enforced.
    Viridiana Hernandez, a 21-year-old undocumented immigrant in Arizona, told The Daily Telegraph that she planned to apply for a work permit, which can be renewed every two years.
    "It is a huge step forward and a relief for students like me," she said.
    Mr Obama's move was welcomed cautiously by Juan Escalante, a spokesman for DREAM Activist, a Florida-based pressure group. "It's an exciting day, but there are reasons for scepticism," he said.
    Activists expressed concern about what would happen to applicants who had "outed" themselves as illegal migrants if Mr Obama were ousted in November by Mr Romney, who could scrap the change.
    It was also unclear whether immigration authorities could pursue the parents of applicants, who would effectively be outed as undocumented themselves yet would be too old to apply for permits.
    The President won Latinos by 36 points over John McCain, his Republican opponent in 2008, and leads Mr Romney by a similar figure, according to polls.
    However allies feared that he was facing the prospect of a depressed turnout after failing to enact immigration reform as he promised, and increasing deportation rates since coming to power.
    "This is definitely something that will reignite enthusiasm among the base," said Mr Escalante. "This is a start in delivering something that people have been demanding for years".


    Thousands of illegal immigrants to be allowed to stay and work in US - Telegraph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangyai View Post
    "This is a start in delivering something that people have been demanding for years".
    Well, regular Americans who have been out of work for years are demanding too. The fat lady hasn't sung yet:

    Rep Steve King from NY is bringing suit. “I will tell you that — I’m not without experience on this — I’m prepared to bring a suit and seek a court order to stop implementation of this policy,” King said

    “I have done it once in the past successfully when then-Governor Tom Vilsack thought he could legislate by executive order — and the case of King vs. Vilsack is in the books. And that individual, by the way, is now the Secretary of Agriculture. I wonder if he’s not counseling the president on his legal proceedings.”
    Huckabee followed up, asking King: “You plan to sue this administration for implementing something that you believe should have required legislative process and approval?”


    “That is correct,” King replied.


    Rep. Steve King to sue Obama admin over deportation change | The Daily Caller

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangyai View Post
    Activists expressed concern about what would happen to applicants who had "outed" themselves as illegal migrants if Mr Obama were ousted in November by Mr Romney, who could scrap the change.
    We know what would happen,.......

    http://thinkprogress.org/election/20...ary/?mobile=nc

    1. Romney attacked Governor Rick Perry for supporting the DREAM Act, calling it a “magnet for illegal immigration.”: In a Florida GOP debate, Romney accused Governor Rick Perry of engendering a “magnet” in Texas by allowing the children of illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition. Romney maintained that even though many children had no part in their families’ decisions to immigrate to the United States, they should not be able to have the same academic opportunities as their peers. [September 2011, USA Today]

    2. Romney pledged to veto the DREAM Act: In December, Mitt Romney promised to veto the DREAM Act if he were elected president. Then during a January GOP debate, Romney called allowing any undocumented workers to gain permanent residency “a mistake.” [December 2011, ABC News]

    3. Romney promised to make life so miserable for undocumented immigrants that they would “self-deport.”: At the Florida Republican Debate, Romney said that he would enforce stringent documentation policies that would make it difficult for illegal immigrations to find work, eventually spurring them to “self-deport.” According to Romney, “If people don’t get work here they’re going to self-deport to a place where they can get work.” [January 2012, Huffington Post]

    4. Romney rebuffed undocumented young woman who was brought to the U.S. at age 10 and had a 4.0 grade-point average: Romney had a particularly awkward encounter when an undocumented worker demanded to know why he wouldn’t support the DREAM Act. After the young woman informed Romney of her 4.0 grade point average, the former governor was quickly ushered away by aides. [January 2012, The Hill]

    5. Romney consults author of extreme anti-immigrant legislation on immigration issues: Romney consults Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State and author of harsh immigration laws in Arizona, South Carolina, and Alabama, as an advisor. Kobach is a controversial figure who has become the leading spokesman of the hardcore anti-immigration movement. [April 2012, ThinkProgress]

    I think with this news Obama has secured the Latino vote because the Rethugs have got shit to offer them or anyone else for that matter except the 1% (and their forever slaves)

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    California DREAM Act Becomes Reality

    Over the weekend, California Governor Jerry Brown signed AB 131 into law. The legislation joins AB 130, which was signed earlier this year. Together, the two bills authored by Gil Cedillo will allow AB 540 students to apply for and receive scholarships at private and public colleges and universities starting in 2012 and 2013 respectively. Undocumented students now how a greater means to finance their educational aspirations. Unlike the federal DREAM Act, the California DREAM Act does not provide a pathway to citizenship and where future graduates will go with degrees in hand remains an open question. Still, it is a great victory for all those student activists and allies who have worked hard to arrive to this day.

    “Going to college is a dream that promises intellectual excitement and creative thinking. The Dream Act benefits us all by giving top students a chance to improve their lives and the lives of all of us,” Brown said in a written statement. This is welcomed, given the fact that the Governor could have cowered to xenophobia and deny the public college portion of the legislation.

    For more information, the following is a California Dream Act Fact Sheet on the legislation provided by the Dream Resource Center:

    Background: California DREAM Act Becomes Reality | Orange Juice

    Tack it on to the $15.7 billion (the real number is likely higher) shortfall! Who cares! The number is so great it doesn't seem real. Just raise taxes. Raise taxes at the state level. Raise taxes at the federal level. Raise taxes at the county level. Raise taxes at the city level. Just raise taxes.


    What? I'm serious. All you have to do to solve the problem is raise taxes on the rich. City have a problem? Raise taxes on the rich. County have a problem? Raise taxes on the rich. State have a problem? Raise taxes on the rich. Federal have a problem? Raise taxes on the rich. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

    What? The best thing to do is raise taxes as quickly as possible because one of the other levels of government might beat you to it. Think Prop 29. It's totally worthless but its backers had the sense to get the money while there still is room to get it.

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    Hispanic’s speaking up for Obama.

    Ms. Saralegui is a big name within the Hispanic community.



    Cristina Saralegui says she'll endorse President Barack Obama - MiamiHerald.com

    Endorsing a presidential candidate for the first time, the popular Miami media figure said she’ll do everything she can ‘to ensure that President Obama is reelected.’

    WASHINGTON -- Television talk show host Cristina Saralegui announced her endorsement of President Barack Obama, saying during the weekend that there’s too much at stake not to speak up when Hispanics could “very well decide the next election.”

    It is the first-ever presidential endorsement for the popular Miami media figure, often called the “Hispanic Oprah” for her two-decade run on Univisión. Obama for America released a video in English and Spanish with a message from Saralegui to the Hispanic community.

    “President Obama, I was very fortunate to live the American dream and I know that only you will make it possible for millions more to do the same,” she said in a statement provided by the campaign. “You’ve had our back, and now, with utmost respect and admiration, I have yours.”

    She is “one of the most trusted names in the Hispanic community and we’re honored to have Cristina be a spokesperson for the campaign, speaking directly to Hispanic voters about the President’s accomplishments,” said campaign spokesman Jim Messina.

    Her nod comes at a time when both Obama and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney are actively seeking Hispanic voters. Both men will travel to Florida this week to speak in Orlando at the annual conference of the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials.

    Obama leads Romney 61 percent to 27 percent among Hispanics ( ) in a recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll, but must shore up his support among Latino voters to win in November. Romney doesn’t need to outright win the Hispanic vote, but he does need to peel away enough of the crucial voting bloc to compete in swing states like Florida, Nevada and Colorado.

    To that end, the Obama administration announced plans Friday to prevent the deportations of hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants who were brought to the United States illegally as children. Those young people won’t vote in November’s election, but support for their plight is seen among many Latino voters as an important sign of respect for the wider Hispanic community.

    Hispanics have embraced the policy change, which was panned by many Republicans — Romney called for a more permanent legislative fix, as did U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., who has been talking about similar legislation but has not yet released it.

    The administration’s directive allows young illegal immigrants who were raised in the United States to remain for two years under a deferred deportation. Unlike the DREAM Act supported by Democrats, the administrative action does not provide a path to citizenship.

    The 64-year-old Saralegui said she was moved to endorse Obama’s reelection because she believes he “understands the Hispanic community and has supported it unconditionally.”

    She said she will “do everything I can from now until November to ensure that President Obama is reelected.”

    “It wasn’t until this election, and because of what I see in President Obama and know he’s accomplished, that I decided to get involved,” she said. “President Obama is a principled man who has worked hard to put healthcare and a good education in the reach of millions of Americans and believes that everyone who works hard and plays by the rules, should have a fair shot at the American dream.”

    Saralegui was born in Cuba and is the granddaughter of pre-revolutionary Havana publishing king Francisco Saralegui. She began her career at one of his magazines, Vanidades.

    El Show de Cristina, launched on Univisión in 1989, was for many years among Spanish-language TV’s top shows. It was cancelled in 2009 as ratings declined. Saralegui last year launched Pa’lante con Cristina on Telemundo, but she announced earlier this month that the show would not continue for another year. She also has a weekly talk show on her Sirius XM Radio channel, Cristina Radio.

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    Obama Immigration Policy Favored 2-to-1 By Likely Voters - Bloomberg

    President Barack Obama is winning the opening round in the battle over immigration, according to a Bloomberg poll released today, putting Republicans on the defensive with his decision to end the deportations of some illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children.

    Sixty-four percent of likely voters surveyed after Obama’s June 15 announcement said they agreed with the policy, while 30 percent said they disagreed. Independents backed the decision by better than a two-to-one margin.


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    Yea he may be winning the opening round with his controversial Presidential edict.

    The long term view is he's simply scoring shallow political points at the expense of achieving any real significant immigration reform.

    So essentially Barry is just shooting himself in the foot, yet again!
    Who would have thought amateur hour would have lasted over three years!
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifest...ToV_story.html
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    Obama’s Immigration Ploy Gains Him Nothing In The Polls. “Three days later, Romney had improved to 48. Obama had slipped to 44.”

    Imagine that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Obama’s Immigration Ploy Gains Him Nothing In The Polls. “Three days later, Romney had improved to 48. Obama had slipped to 44.”

    Imagine that!

    Imagine that,...your quote is wrong.

    The quote from your link:
    Four days later the rolling average was exactly the same, 46 Romney 45 Obama.
    that poll didn't mean squat anyway. The poll that does matter, is a Latino poll (to see how they feel).

    here's how Latinos feel,........

    New poll: Latino voters in battle ground states enthusiastic about Obama DREAM announcement, oppose Romney ‘self-deport’ alternative | Latino Decisions

    A new poll released June 17, 2012 by Latino Decisions and America’s Voice finds that Latino registered voters are very enthusiastic about President Obama’s recent announcement and action on immigration policy that will halt deportations and provide temporary work permits to some young undocumented immigrants. This new finding stands in clear contrast to the low levels of enthusiasm among Latino voters towards the previous deportation policies under the Obama administration. The joint survey between Latino Decisions and America’s Voice polled Latino registered voters in five key battleground states: Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Nevada and Virginia, and is part of a larger survey on Latino battleground states to be released later in June.



    In contrast to these recent statements by Obama, the survey also tested enthusiasm towards policy statements by Mitt Romney on immigration. Respondents were asked whether Romney’s statements calling on undocumented immigrants to self-deport back to their “home” countries, and to make immigration laws in Arizona a model for the nation, made them more or less enthusiastic about Romney. Among Latino registered voters in five key battleground states, 10% said the Romney statements made them more enthusiastic, while 59% said the statements made them less enthusiastic about Romney, a net enthusiasm deficit of -49 points.


    the rethugs got Nothing to offer the Hispanic community!

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    Heh, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer released a statement today celebrating the ruling by the Supreme Court on the state’s immigration law.

    Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer celebrated the Supreme Court’s ruling Monday on her state’s tough immigration law, calling the court’s decision a “victory for the rule of law.”

    “Today’s decision by the U.S. Supreme Court is a victory for the rule of law. It is also a victory for the 10th Amendment and all Americans who believe in the inherent right and responsibility of states to defend their citizens,” the Republican governor said in a statement. “After more than two years of legal challenges, the heart of SB 1070 can now be implemented in accordance with the U.S. Constitution.”

    In a highly anticipated ruling, the Supreme Court upheld one of the key provisions of the Arizona law, allowing police officers to check the immigration status of any individual who has been stopped for questioning if there is reason to believe that the person is in the country illegally. Three other provisions of the law were struck down

    Arizona immigration ruling: Jan Brewer: SCOTUS ruling a ?victory? with 'heart' upheld - POLITICO.com

    Between Brewer & Sheriff Joe, at least somebody has a modicum of common sense...

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