Elena Kagen Nominated for USSC

**Humbert** · 17-05-2010, 07:47 PM

The fact that she has no judicial experience bothers me. I know, Rehnquist and Warren were never judges either. As long as were going that route I suppose Ramsey Clarke would be a great choice if he wasn't close to 90!

**Jet Gorgon** · 17-05-2010, 08:47 PM

^ Agree. I just hope the hearings are stringent and fair. Neither do I like the fact that the WH put out an infommercial on her and have barred the press from interviewing any of her family. Since they can't interview her directly, I expect the good hackers to dig up every piece of info on her views, especially her years with the Clinton admin.
I worry about who may be in the wings, tho. Kagan could be a pawn with obama just waiting for her to be knocked off so he can nominate a real far-left nutter.

**Norton** · 17-05-2010, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

And your choices, Gentlemen, would be?

Sidney Thomas, Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Good old WASP from Billings Montana.

Too liberal for you, Jet?

**Jet Gorgon** · 18-05-2010, 04:50 AM

^ Gimme a bio. Heard he was interviewed but don't know his background. One point for being from Billings tho.

**Norton** · 18-05-2010, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Gimme a bio.

Sure there are others but out of laziness wiki will do.

"On July 19, 1995, President Bill Clinton nominated Thomas to his current seat on the Ninth Circuit. The United States Senate confirmed Thomas in a voice vote on January 2, 1996. Thomas's nomination had been briefly held up by then U.S. Sen. Conrad Burns of Montana, who had wanted the nominations of Thomas and judicial nominee A. Wallace Tashima delayed until the passage of a bill to split the Ninth Circuit into two.[3]

Judge Thomas authored the opinion in Nadarajah v. Gonzales, a 2006 civil rights case.

Judge Thomas is the 'en banc coordinator' for his highly divisive court, with parliamentarian type duties that can impact the outcome of any case. "I've never known one of his rulings to be challenged," the Ninth Circuit's Chief Judge has said. "I think it's a tribute to his evenhandedness that he's been on the job for many years, and nobody wants a different en banc coordinator."

Sidney Runyan Thomas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nadarajah v. Gonzales opinion. I like this one.

"Applying the law to the facts of this case, we conclude that a writ of habeas corpus must issue and Nadarajah must be released from custody. The length of the detention in this case has been unreasonable. Nadarajah has established that there is no significant likelihood of removal in the reasonably foreseeable future. The government has failed to respond with evidence sufficient to rebut that showing."

nadarajah v. gonzales - Google Scholar

**Humbert** · 18-05-2010, 01:09 PM

Is it beyond the realm of possibilities to actually nominate a supreme court justice regardless of political, gender, religious or racial considerations? Can't they just appoint someone who is demonstratably fair with solid reasoning skills and extensive judicial experience? I would like the court to be as it was intended - a separate, independent branch of government.

**Jet Gorgon** · 18-05-2010, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Gimme a bio.

Sure there are others but out of laziness wiki will do.

Nadarajah v. Gonzales opinion. I like this one.

Aww, Norts. Go eat some spits.
Thanks for the info.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Is it beyond the realm of possibilities to actually nominate a supreme court justice regardless of political, gender, religious or racial considerations? Can't they just appoint someone who is demonstratably fair with solid reasoning skills and extensive judicial experience? I would like the court to be as it was intended - a separate, independent branch of government.

Someone who follows the Constitution is fine by me. I don't give a toss either about their human aspects other than that they follow the Constitutional law.

**sabang** · 22-05-2010, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Can't they just appoint someone who is demonstratably fair with solid reasoning skills and extensive judicial experience? I would like the court to be as it was intended - a separate, independent branch of government.

I agree, but appointments to the Supreme Court of the USA have been overtly political for a long time. It is indeed a shame.

Kagan is no 'political' persona, in fact she is a boring middle of the road career woman- albeit with a Blue chip education and resume'. She is not a controversial choice.

Obviously the GOP wants the Obama admin to appoint an overtly 'Conservative' Justice. But they know they're whistling dixie. The last three chief justices of the SC have been appointed by Republican administrations. Unsurprisingly they were all noted Conservatives.

**dotcom** · 29-06-2010, 02:12 PM

So the dog & pont show begins.

Bamboozler has nominated a person who has never been a judge to the highest court in the land.

Is she gay? Would fit the nold.

The hearings mean nothing. Soto dodge desoto was asked if the second amendment right to bear arms trumps state & local law. She said "yes"
Yesterday on the court she voted "No"

Jan 20 2009, prior to raising his hand they shoulod have given Barry 30 mins to state all the parts of the Constitution that does not conform to his notions of "fairness". The Constitution is an impediment to the plans of lib/progressives

Prior to him raising his hand & swearing to "uphold & defend" the Constitution which was one of the biggest lies since Nixon said 'I am not a crook".

**Boon Mee** · 29-06-2010, 02:41 PM

According to Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan, laws banning books pose no First Amendment problems, because they might not be enforced.

George Orwell was like a quarter century premature...

Breitbart.tv

**Jet Gorgon** · 29-06-2010, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

Kagan is no 'political' persona, in fact she is a boring middle of the road career woman- albeit with a Blue chip education and resume'. She is not a controversial choice.

What? She is not political? Totally disagree, and she will be way leftie and she will rule based on the case, not the Constitution, methinks. Very bad. You better follow the hearings -- besides barring US military recruiters from Harvard (a taxpayer funded uni), she has made several political comments over the years.

Originally Posted by sabang

The last three chief justices of the SC have been appointed by Republican administrations. Unsurprisingly they were all noted Conservatives.

Erm, you're forgetting Sotomayor, there.

Ah! 2nd Amendment now back in all 50 States. Love SCOTUS.

**sabang** · 29-06-2010, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

you're forgetting Sotomayor, there

No I ain't.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

chief justices

**dotcom** · 29-06-2010, 05:39 PM

That sleezebag Leahy managed to get in a cheap shot saying that the Iraq war was unconstitutional.

This coning from a Marxist representing the great state of "The People's Democratic Republic of Vermont"

Nuff said. Absolute trash. Prasied that other old dead Marxist KKK sheet wearing racist Robert Byrd to the high heavens.

If you are a dimwitocrat & you were a member of the KKK & as long as you belong to the lunatic fringe of the left wing you can be rehabilitated like going to Siberia in the old Soviet Union.

All is forgiven. As long as you commit to building the welfare state.

Dimwitocrats all need to go to the gulag. Hillary can be the chief warden. Trustee inmate.

**Jet Gorgon** · 29-06-2010, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

you're forgetting Sotomayor, there

No I ain't.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

chief justices

My mistake.

Thank God that Roberts is young.

**dotcom** · 29-06-2010, 05:56 PM

I wonder if they have R.O.T.C. at Harvard?

**dotcom** · 01-07-2010, 12:51 PM

She's gay alright as suspected.

Got a hair up her ass over "Don't ask, don't tell."

Gay's serving openly in the military? MADNESS.

**slackula** · 01-07-2010, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by dotcom

Gay's serving openly in the military? MADNESS.

Why? It works for Israel..

**Boon Mee** · 06-07-2010, 05:09 PM

Captain Pete Hegseth touches on a few of the countless reasons that military-loathing left-wing militant Elena Kagan is a supremely awful choice.

**Jet Gorgon** · 06-07-2010, 06:39 PM

^ Ouch! Not only stuck her with the knife, but he turned it. Well-premised speech. Thanks for the clip, Booners.

**Boon Mee** · 22-07-2010, 10:32 AM

Well, the Socialization of America continues unabated. This 'person' gets on the Supreme Court, she'll be ten times worse than Earl Warren ever thought to be...

**AjarnJonesy** · 22-07-2010, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ Ouch! Not only stuck her with the knife, but he turned it. Well-premised speech. Thanks for the clip, Booners.

TO bad there are not more people willing to speak what they believe... rather than roll over for fear of being seen as a racist or bigget.... This guy is neither... when did be become so ingrained with fear that we are afraid to speak out and say what we what we believe is right.....

"The decline of the Roman Empire refers to the societal collapse encompassing both the gradual disintegration of the political, economic, military, and other social institutions of Rome and the barbarian invasions that were its final doom."

Decline of the Roman Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Almost could say the follwing word for word... You can point to things that make history a good map for whats happening today.

"The decline of the American Empire refers to the SOCIETAL COLLAPSE encompassing both the gradual disintegration of the political, economic, military, and other social institutions of AMERICA and the {barbarian invasions} that were its final doom."
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(i.e. liberalism, political correctness, greed, power, money, entitlement, removal of morals from public view, Sexual debauchery and so on)

**Jet Gorgon** · 23-07-2010, 04:20 AM

^ Very true, Jonesy. Moral decay is the worst.

**Boon Mee** · 24-07-2010, 02:48 PM

Heh...check this out: "I know nothing! I don't even know my own opinions. In fact, I don't even know if the federal government can use the Commerce Clause to dictate what you eat for lunch. I… know… nothing!"

Gonna dictate what Americans can and cannot eat, eh? Perhaps it'll be Soylent Green at the rate this Sociaalist government is headed.

**sabang** · 24-07-2010, 06:16 PM

It's a done deal- it always was.

**S Landreth** · 06-08-2010, 03:12 AM

Elena Kagan has been confirmed by the Senate to become the newest Associate U.S. Supreme Court justice by a vote of 63-37. For the first time in history, three women will serve as Supreme Court justices at the same time.

link: BREAKING: Elena Kagan Confirmed By Senate | Crooks and Liars

Five Republicans - Maine Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe, South Carolina's Lindsey Graham, retiring Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, and Indiana's Richard Lugar - have broken with their party to back Kagan. They've argued that partisanship should play no role in debates over the Supreme Court and have called Obama's nominee qualified.

link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6746880.shtml

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