Thread: Health Care Passes

Why Are Men Forced To Carry maternity Insurance Under Obamacare?

Good question, eh? When HHS Commissar Kathleen Sebelious said they need it during yesterday’s congressional testimony, Rep Renee Ellmers (R-NC) attempted to school the Abortion Queen on the birds and the bees:

“A single male, aged 32, does not need maternity coverage. To the best of your knowledge, has a man ever delivered a baby?”





Bizarro World or what?

Guess what?

Now we got claims that Obamacare will save marriages from Divorce!



Uh, kinda don't think so. Most marriage problems are created from money problems and with the Adorable Care Act, there will be less money in the pay packet...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Why Are Men Forced To Carry maternity Insurance Under Obamacare?

Good question, eh? When HHS Commissar Kathleen Sebelious said they need it during yesterday’s congressional testimony, Rep Renee Ellmers (R-NC) attempted to school the Abortion Queen on the birds and the bees:

“A single male, aged 32, does not need maternity coverage. To the best of your knowledge, has a man ever delivered a baby?”





Bizarro World or what?

I also like how she tries to dance around the answer by saying that his coverage would be for the whole family but yet each family member has to have their own coverage under the plan, so the wife already has hers required by law.. A bit of duplicitous information I guess we're not supposed to be smart enough to understand ..

Personally though we've always been patronized by government officials like we're all children, but I can't remember an admin as patronizing as this one in my life time.. It probably has a lot to do with the way they got elected using the nativity of people and the GenX voters they sucked in so that translates to 0 respect for ANYONE's intelligence..

Photo of the Week

Check out the book a Republican state senator in TN gave Kathleen Sebelius today in Memphis. Hilarious!



She appears to be unamused. Although she just might make use of the book id she applied herself...

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Where's the link, harry...?

Yes indeed, the Emperor's pants are on fire - Poll: 71% of Voters Believe Obama Knew Premiums Would Skyrocket For Some Americans.

Why only 71%?

It's a fait accompli as far as anyone with more than a room temperature IQ can observe...

Under Obamacare, Premiums Will Fall As Much As 3000%!!!



The trained seals clapping instead of laughing at this absurd declaration remind us that some people fully deserve what is happening to America...

What Do You Fear?

The make-believe frights of Halloween are over for now — but the real terrors of ObamaCare are only just beginning:

Another Boon; I'm a teabagger and I am misinformed and I spend my time misinforming others, post.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

However the perceived notion that the GOP is in dire straights, the facts of the matter are it's gonna get better for them in the future. Especially as the even the LIV's realize it were them damn Democrats who were responsible for them to lose their Insurance.



That pesky 'ol Grandfather Rule that's gonna kick their ass!

at 1:55 into the video Kelly (?) states "Almost none of these plans are going to be grandfathered"

Note I received yesterday,..........

Think about the percentage,...........Me, here on TD and I have received a notice stating I am grandfathered in.

There might not be many more here at TD that will get the same notice that I did (but I am sure many more will/have),.because you have to consider the average age of the poster here (older and on medicare) that is not as fortunate as me who doesn't have to work and pays for his insurance himself and doesn't get his health insurance through the company he works for as most other posters here do, who work in the states (I believe).

When Kelly (the blond in the video?) says "Almost none of these plans are going to be grandfathered",..she's full of crap.

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We'll have to see re the Grandfathered policies but hang on to your shorts those of you who have employer-paid insurance. Same thing is going to happen next year after the elections. You will experience the same pain as those poor individuals - millions of individuals who have had their policies canceled thus far.

^ Yawwn. Anyway booner, only three years left to president cruz.

ObamaCare is just another gateway to socialism, but only if it causes the collapse of the healthcare insurance industry. That's the ultimate aim...

If the point in producing that vid was to rabbit on for a full 8 minutes in order that nobody could understand what Obamacare was about then it was truly an outstanding success.

Only in america

The NY Times hasn't gone completely off the reservation...yet. They are still carrying his water/watching his back like good little Obama Lap Boys:

New York Times: Obama 'Misspoke' About Keeping Healthcare Plans

MISSPEAK 1: to speak (as a word) incorrectly 2: to express oneself imperfectly or incorrectly [e.g., claims now that he misspoke himself]

In an editorial of today, the New York Times couldn't bring itself to say the simple truth: that President Obama lied when he repeatedly assured Americans that, under Obamacare, if they liked their healthcare insurance policies they would be able to keep them. The most the Times was able to admit was that [emphasis added throughout] "Mr. Obama clearly misspoke when he said that." Misspoke. Yes, of course. As you see from the Merriam Webster definition above, the word does not imply any intent to deceive. Indeed, as in the example Merriam Webster offers, to misspeak implies a lack of intent.



The Times editorial labors mightily from its collectivist/statist perspective to defend Obamacare. The very title of the editorial reads: "Insurance Policies Not Worth Keeping." Translation: you little people might imagine you like your policies. But trust your enlightened betters: we're doing you a favor by forcing you to give them up.

And then there's this: "Many higher-income people who won’t qualify for subsidies, however, will have to buy policies providing more benefits than they want. Maternity care for those who will not have children is one sore point. But that is one price of moving toward universal coverage with comprehensive benefits."

Translation: from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.

He Sure Has Done A Lot Of 'Miss-Speaking' Since Year 2009

"If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan."

What if your health care plan decides it doesn't like you?

Originally Posted by sabang

"If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan."

What if your health care plan decides it doesn't like you?

Then you go out on the free marketplace and find a plan you and your provider are comfortable with. The direct opposite of this commie BS that Obama is jamming down American's throats.

Obamacare is clearly on its way to parallel the housing/banking crash of 2008. Bubba Bill Clinton set the stage for that disaster with policies (which were lies) enforced by his Attorney General Janet Reno:

"I want to target new (housing) markets, underserved populations, tear down the barriers to discrimination wherever they are found," Clinton said. "We have to do a better job of reaching the underserved; of eradicating discriminatory practices that prevent minorities from finding, financing or buying the home of their choice."

Bill Clinton, Home Wrecker - Investors.com

You Also Can’t Keep Your Doctor

"I had great cancer doctors and health insurance.My plan was cancelled. Now I worry how long I’ll live."

A Stage-4 Gallblader Cancer Survivor Says: I Am One of ObamaCare's Losers - WSJ.com

John Roberts, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and, of course, Barack Hussien Obama have a lot to answer for...

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sure they do boon...

"You would think it would be simple to find a health-exchange plan that allows me, living in San Diego, to continue to see my primary oncologist at Stanford University and my primary care doctors at the University of California, San Diego. Not so. UCSD has agreed to accept only one Covered California plan—a very restrictive Anthem EPO Plan. EPO stands for exclusive provider organization, which means the plan has a small network of doctors and facilities and no out-of-network coverage (as in a preferred-provider organization plan) except for emergencies. Stanford accepts an Anthem PPO plan but it is not available for purchase in San Diego (only Anthem HMO and EPO plans are available in San Diego)."

seems to me he can get a plan that allows him to see his oncologist and existing doctors... I am not sure what he is griping about.... what? he does not like the plan because its an "exlusive provider plan"? he also says his current policy has paid out 1.2 million... does he know he was $800,000 from being maxed out and really being fucked and left to die penniless? Now he can have a plan that will not leave him and his family bankrupt...

imagine his search for a policy after he maxed out without the ACA? imagine his little op-ed would sound so much different.. something like "why doesn't the government help us? I am going to lose everything and die! Somebody needs to do something!"

Heh...Obamacare is like Barry promising us an Ipad and giving us two cans and a string...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Heh...Obamacare is like Barry promising us an Ipad and giving us two cans and a string...

Anyone can get signed up for the new healthcare plans all they have to do is contact their current insurance company. They will sign them right up with a new plan. The website is completely unnecessary. Sorry no emergency. Just fox news drumming up the usual nonsense for the koolaid sipping simpletons aka the LIV's.

Now we see that documents have leaked showing that Obama's Obamacare "War Room" is panicked about What Comes Next.

"Officials expressed concern that the next shoe to drop in the evolving story about the Affordable Care Act would be disappointment from consumers once they are able to get on the troubled HealthCare.gov website – disappointment because of sticker shock and limited choice, according to a new document obtained by CNN.

“Mike described a general concern of PM (Project Management): getting to the point where the website is functioning properly and individuals begin to select plans; the media attention will follow individuals to plan selection and their ultimate choices; and, in some cases, there will be fewer options than would be desired to promote consumer choice and an ideal shopping experience. Additionally, in some cases there will be relatively high cost plans,” say the notes from the Obama administration’s Obamacare 'War Room' from one week ago."

Plus, we find that... "The point, though, is that horror stories about people losing their doctors en masse are still to come and the White House is preparing for them. Which makes me wonder: Given all the political agony that’s in store for red-state Democrats up for reelection next year, how much longer can they afford to stand by the law? Even if the website’s fixed tomorrow, they’re staring at a parade of horribles well into 2014. Rate shock is the story now; the next story will be whether O-Care can possibly hit its enrollment targets in order to make the program sustainable. (This assumes that Healthcare.gov will begin operating smoothly soon. If it doesn’t, the next story will be all about Democratic panic and Obama’s bad options in minimizing the damage from a busted enrollment drive.) The next story after that will be people outraged at how their provider networks have shrunk. After that comes the March 31, 2014 deadline for enrollment; will the administration reach its target on that or will the deadline be extended, raising the risk of an adverse selection problem for insurers? And then, as a cherry on top, after a long summer of the GOP showcasing ObamaCare nightmare stories, insurers will release the 2015 rates next October and there’ll be a new flood of small-business employees agonizing publicly about how high the premiums are on their new exchange-bought plans. It’s nothing but sh*t sandwiches for Senate Dems until next November. How long before they lose their appetites?"

Obamacare 'War Room' docs: We're concerned next media story is some consumers getting on website and finding fewer options, higher prices – The Lead with Jake Tapper - CNN.com Blogs

And, have y'all heard what happens when Obamacare fails to sign up enough young, healthy Taxable Units and the insurance companies are overwhelmed with major losses?

What happens is, get this, a huge federal bailout already provided for in the law itself.

What great legislation, eh?

Little update to an earlier story: Jonathan Karl asked Obama's Comically Evasive Mouthpiece Jay Carney about people not being able to sign up over the phone for Obamacare, as Obama had promised.

Jay Carney answered testily, answering, basically, that even though what Obama said was another Gigantic Lie, the people who were lied to won't have to waste their time going through the website anymore.

That link above is to a short video of Carney's angry response.

Note how Carney tries to shut Karl up using social pressure -- bullying -- by noting that his Nice Liberal Colleagues all "get it," and are giving Karl "quizzical looks" for asking about yet another Obama lie.

^^ WOW! Could the "statist liberaalll" media really publish something against the messiah? OMFGLMAO!!

By the way, The Healthcare.gov Has One Function It's Performing Real Good: Sending Your Private, Personal Information to Strangers.

Yes, it gets worse & worse with each passing day.

"Thomas Dougall has a warning for Obamacare website users: Your "information may not be secure."

Dougall, a South Carolina attorney whose personal information was misdirected by the Obamacare website to a stranger in another state, says "I just want my personal information removed from what is an unsecured system." His adult daughter also wants her information removed from the Obamacare site but, so far, no one from HHS has answered their requests for help.

The entire saga began over the weekend when the Heritage Foundation reported that Justin Hadley, a North Carolina man, had logged in to his Healthcare.gov account and discovered personal information for two other people, one of them was named Thomas Dougall. Local news station News 48 interviewed Dougall Saturday.

"We're told constantly that it's a secure system and it's not, obviously," Dougall told 48 News. He added, "they have no procedure whatsoever to handle security breaches." News 48 contacted HHS for comment but only got an email asking for further information."

Obamacare Security Failure: Website Misdirects Private Information to Stranger in Another State