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    Quote Originally Posted by Joehot147
    Guys when or after how much time you go for check up to your doctor.
    I've been to a doctor three or four times in the last 20 years myself. Sometimes I think I should get a check up, but yawwn.

    You leave us somewhat in suspenders here- I mean, are you in the USA, Thailand, or where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
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    It seems the greedy health " care " for profit insurance industry is what is fucked. About God-Damned time, too.
    Not exactly. This bill, which is a mess, mandates that people without insurance must choose a private health care provider. This will be a windfall for the health care industry without a public option.
    The whole thing is a well crafted trap that in the end will end up being what they originally wanted Single Payerbecause nothing else will work.
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    Doesn't this sound familiar? Like it's almost like we told you how it would work out:

    "Support for Democrats' healthcare reform has hit its lowest point since the law passed in March 2010, says a new monthly poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation."

    Higher premiums for the folks who pay the bills in America to support a new entitlement program for those who don't. Sounds a little 'pink' to this poster. Like communism lite, eh?

    Healthcare law's popularity hits new low - The Hill's Healthwatch
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    If the Medical establishment had reduced it's prices/ increased it's competitiveness to compete with the rest of the advanced world, I'm sure calls for an overhaul of what passes for a US health care system would never have originated booner. I note the survey you quote (as usual) was done by a significant player in the Medical establishment, ie it has raked in billions of dollars from overcharging US citizens for their medical expenses. Why, when so much of Big Pharma is amerkin, do you pay well over double what the rest of the world pays for medical drugs booner?

    The only drugs that are cheap in the USA are illegal recreational drugs like coke n crack. Yet you have a 'war on drugs', which you are losing. Why don't you have a War on drug companies, instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    If the Medical establishment had reduced it's prices/ increased it's competitiveness to compete with the rest of the advanced world, I'm sure calls for an overhaul of what passes for a US health care system would never have originated booner. I note the survey you quote (as usual) was done by a significant player in the Medical establishment, ie it has raked in billions of dollars from overcharging US citizens for their medical expenses. Why, when so much of Big Pharma is amerkin, do you pay well over double what the rest of the world pays for medical drugs booner?

    The only drugs that are cheap in the USA are illegal recreational drugs like coke n crack. Yet you have a 'war on drugs', which you are losing. Why don't you have a War on drug companies, instead?
    Coke & Crack cheap? Don't know where you get your figures but an oz of coke is a lot more expensive than an oz of gold. Anyhow, hear that the drug of choice back there is Meth and all its forms...

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    Ohio is set to vote November 8th on amending the state constitution to block ObamaCare.

    Mother Jones doesn't think the amendment will pass. The article mentions lack of support from the Left and Right.

    The Ohio Tea Party's Big "Obamacare" Fail | Mother Jones

    We shall see.

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    Quote of the day belongs in this thread.

    "Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that will require every citizen to prove they are insured, but not everyone to prove they are a citizen!" author unknown
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    Fathom the hypocricy of any government that requires their voters to pay over double as much as the rest of the advanced world for incomplete health care.

    It will be an interesting Campaign point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Fathom the hypocricy of any government that requires their voters to pay over double as much as the rest of the advanced world for incomplete health care.

    It will be an interesting Campaign point.
    Blame the Sharks...

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    US Court of Appeals in DC upholds health care reform law

    link: 11-5047-1340594

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    Supreme Court to Hear Health Care Reform Case

    In a widely expected move the Supreme Court today decided that it will review the constitutionality of the new Affordable Care Act law and its requirement that all Americans carry health insurance. A finally ruling from the Supreme Court will likely come in June, just a few months before the 2012 general election.


    link: Supreme Court to Hear Health Care Reform Case | FDL Action
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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Supreme Court to Hear Health Care Reform Case

    In a widely expected move the Supreme Court today decided that it will review the constitutionality of the new Affordable Care Act law and its requirement that all Americans carry health insurance. A finally ruling from the Supreme Court will likely come in June, just a few months before the 2012 general election.


    link: Supreme Court to Hear Health Care Reform Case | FDL Action
    And Kagan better recluse herself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Supreme Court to Hear Health Care Reform Case

    In a widely expected move the Supreme Court today decided that it will review the constitutionality of the new Affordable Care Act law and its requirement that all Americans carry health insurance. A finally ruling from the Supreme Court will likely come in June, just a few months before the 2012 general election.


    link: Supreme Court to Hear Health Care Reform Case | FDL Action
    And Kagan better recluse herself...
    or what?

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    She has to if only based on her emails supporting Obamacare before she became a Supreme.

    And then there's this: Dems fear Supreme Court will rule against Obama on healthcare reform.

    We can certainly hope Obamacare will go down in flames.

    Dems fear Supreme Court will rule against Obama on healthcare reform - The Hill's Healthwatch

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    read it and weep,.........

    If the court follows its own precedents, as it should, this case should not be a close call: The reform law and a provision requiring most people to obtain health insurance or pay a penalty are clearly constitutional.

    The court agreed to hear appeals from a ruling by the United States Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, which struck down the individual mandate to buy health insurance but left other parts of the law standing. Opponents of the law contend that Congress went beyond its authority in the reform measure. But Congress, under the commerce clause, plainly has the power to regulate the national health care market.

    link:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/op...ourt.html?_r=2

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    Well, if the Supremes have any sense they'll go along with popular opinion, eh?

    More Americans than not want health law repeal: poll



    A Gallup survey of more than 1,000 U.S. adults found that 47 percent favor the repeal of healthcare reform, versus 42 percent who want the law kept in place. Eleven percent had no opinion.

    More Americans than not want health law repeal: poll | Reuters

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    The Death Panels are here whether or not you doubters believe it...

    Here’s some free medical advice: If you’re over 70, avoid any problems that could require brain surgery. Under ObamaCare, the government doesn’t think you’re worth the expense, as revealed on the Mark Levin Show:



    A neurosurgeon, vetted by Levin's staff, calls Mark and talks about what he knows about Obamacare Death Panels. From 11/22/11.

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    Left-Leaning Kaiser Poll Shows Americans Dislike Obamacare

    They know a Turkey when they see one, eh?

    Left-Leaning Kaiser Poll Shows Americans Dislike Obamacare | The Weekly Standard

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    Opposition to health-care law softens after spike

    After showing a record 51 percent of Americans with unfavorable views of the health-care reform law in October, opposition softened to 44 percent in November’s Kaiser Family Foundation tracking poll (pdf). Favorable ratings of the law – at 37 percent – are still near their record low from October.

    Among those who dislike the law, more (44 percent) say it’s due to general feelings about the “direction of the country and what’s going on in Washington” than cite what they “know about the health reform law” as grounds for opposition (25 percent). More than a quarter, 28 percent, cite both as a reason.

    Majorities of the public back 14 of 15 aspects of the law tested in the poll, but just 35 percent back the so-called individual mandate, which requires most Americans to have health insurance by 2014 or pay a fine. As we’ve noted before, popularity of the individual mandate seems to hinge on the requirement that Americans pay a fine for not having insurance.
    Poll watcher: Republicans split on global warming; health-care reform and GOP intensity - Behind the Numbers - The Washington Post


    The middle paragraph makes me giggle. They oppose the law not because they understand the law but because they don't like Washington.

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    2.5 Million Young Adults Gain Health Insurance Due to the Affordable Care Act


    Results released today [12/14/11] by the National Center for Health Statistics demonstrate that the extension of dependent coverage up to age 26 has increased the number of young adults with health insurance, by even more than prior analyses had suggested. This policy, enacted as part of the Affordable Care Act, took effect for insurance plan renewals beginning on September 23, 2010, and was designed to address the fact that young adults have traditionally been the age group least likely to have health insurance. These new estimates show that from September 2010 to June 2011, the percentage of adults 19 to 25 with insurance coverage increased from 64% to 73%, which translates into 2.5 million additional young adults with coverage. This shows a marked continuation of the coverage gains from the Affordable Care Act; estimates based on data from earlier in the year showed that this provision of the Act had led to the extension of coverage to one million young adults.


    : 2.5 Million Young Adults Gain Health Insurance Due to the Affordable Care Act: ASPE Issue Brief

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    There is a reason Republicans are opposing any long term investments in the USA, no matter how economically beneficial. Work it out.

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    Health care tax credits huge boon to small businesses

    With the economy still in a slump, small business owners like me are doing everything we can to keep our costs down. A particularly troublesome cost for my business is health insurance.

    However, I recently learned there are tax credits in the new healthcare law specifically for small businesses that will help us pocket some extra cash.

    In Michigan, 85.1 percent, or 126,300 small businesses were eligible for a credit in 2010; 39,600 small businesses qualified for the maximum tax credit that year.

    Unfortunately, I saw a survey from Small Business Majority that said 57 percent of small business owners don't know about the credits. If more small employers took advantage of this opportunity to save money, there would be more cash circulating in our community.

    story: GUEST COLUMN: Health care tax credits huge boon to small businesses - Opinion - Heritage Newspapers


    Who is eligible for the tax credit?

    Small employers that provide healthcare coverage are eligible (a “qualified employer”) if:

    They have fewer than 25 full-time equivalent employees (FTEs)* for the tax year

    The average annual wages paid are less than $50,000** per FTE

    The employer pays at least 50% of the premium cost under a “qualified arrangement”

    * FTEs may be calculated in any of three ways to maximize the tax credit. See “How is the number of employees determined for eligibility?” below.

    ** Wage limits will be indexed to the Consumer Price Index for Urban Consumers (CPI-U) for tax years beginning in 2014.

    A “qualified arrangement” means:

    The employer pays 50% or more of the cost of the employee-only premium for coverage through a state-licensed company for traditional health insurance. This contribution requirement also applies to add-on coverage including vision, dental and other limited-scope coverage.

    link: Small Business Majority | Healthcare Reform FAQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
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    Supreme Court to Hear Health Care Reform Case

    In a widely expected move the Supreme Court today decided that it will review the constitutionality of the new Affordable Care Act law and its requirement that all Americans carry health insurance. A finally ruling from the Supreme Court will likely come in June, just a few months before the 2012 general election.


    link: Supreme Court to Hear Health Care Reform Case | FDL Action
    And Kagan better recluse herself...
    Not gonna happen,..............

    Justice Roberts defends Thomas, Kagan on healthcare recusal issue

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Chief Justice John Roberts expressed confidence on Saturday in the decisions by his Supreme Court colleagues on when to recuse themselves, an issue that has emerged in the legal battle over President Barack Obama’s healthcare overhaul law.

    Some Democrats in Congress have called for Justice Clarence Thomas to be recused because of his wife’s work for conservative groups that opposed the law while some Republicans have called for Justice Elena Kagan’s recusal because of her prior position in the Obama administration.

    Neither justice has removed themselves from the healthcare cases, which have been scheduled for arguments in late March, with a decision expected by the end of June.

    “A justice accordingly cannot withdraw from a case as a matter of convenience or simply to avoid controversy,” Roberts said: Justice Roberts defends Thomas, Kagan on healthcare recusal issue | The Raw Story

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    More Solid Proof That Obamacare Is Working

    Great article here. Republicans are gonna eat pie in next many months;

    Recent data provided by the nation’s largest health insurance companies reveals that a provision of the Affordable Care Act – or Obamacare – is bringing big numbers of the uninsured into the health care insurance system.

    And they are precisely the uninsured that we want– the young people who tend not to get sick.

    The provision of the law that permits young adults under 26, long the largest uninsured demographic in the country, to remain on their parents’ health insurance program resulted in at least 600,000 newly insured Americans during the first quarter of 2011.

    Wellpoint, the nation’s largest publicly traded health insurer with some 34 million customers, reports adding 280,000 new members in the first three months of 2011.

    Add in the results of some of the other large health insurers including Aetna, who added just short of 100,000 newly insured to their customer base, Kaiser Permanente’s additional 90,000, and Highmark’s 72,000 new customers, and we begin to sense our health insurance pools are filling up with some badly needed young blood.

    The Health & Human Services Department had estimated that the changes in the law would result in about 1.2 million new enrollees in 2011. However, according to Aaron Smith, the executive director of a Washington based non-profit that advocates for the young, it now looks as if that number will be exceeded.

    This is very good news – particularly for those in the individual and small group markets that tend not to ‘self-insure’ as the larger corporations tend to do.

    It is also very good news for those of us who write a large check every month for our health coverage.

    For starters, every one of the young immortals we add to the rolls of the insured is one less young adult who will turn to the emergency room to fix a broken leg and then find themselves unable to pay the bill – leaving it to the rest of us to pay the tab.

    And it gets better.

    Because the under 26 crowd tends not to get sick, adding them to the insurance pools helps bring the very balance that was intended by the new law. The more healthy people available to pay for those in the pool who are ill (translation- the older people), the better the system works and the lower our premium charges should go.

    One cannot help but notice that the health insurance companies turned in record profits for the first quarter of 2011 due, according the insurance companies, to fewer people seeking medical treatment.

    When you add into their customer base a large number of people who are paying premiums but are less likely to get sick (the young adult demographic), this would be the expected result.

    The question now is whether we allow the health insurance companies to hold onto the benefits of this reform by keeping the extra money they are pocketing or force them to hold the line on premiums as a result of their good fortune.

    I’m betting that the policyholders, with the help of both state and federal governments, will win this battle.

    Meanwhile, things continue to improve on the small business front where business owners are being heavily incentivized to offer health care benefits to employees.

    As I wrote in January, there has been a significant uptick in small businesses taking advantage of the tax benefits offered by the ACA to provide health insurance to employees where they previously did not do so.

    According to a Kaiser survey, there has been a 46% uptick in businesses with less than 10 employees offering health benefits as compared to last year.

    That is a big number.

    Further improving the outlook, the IRS has, in the past month, issued guidelines for small businesses which very much bolster the tax credits offered. Included in those guidelines are provisions that clarify that the tax credit will not be reduced by a state health care tax credit or subsidy (except in limited circumstances to prevent abuse of the credit); that small businesses can receive the credit not only for traditional health insurance coverage but also for add-on dental, vision, and other limited-scope coverage; and detailed guidance on how a small business can determine whether it is eligible and how large a credit it will receive.

    Health care reform is working, folks – and we have yet to get to the really big benefits which kick in come 2014.

    Now that we are seeing some decidedly positive results, I am reminded of the GOP criticism that was leveled at the health care reform effort back when the issue was on the front burner of the national consciousness.

    Once we get past the August 2009 era of the townhall meetings where the Republicans were pitching the false “death panel” narrative to great effect, we see that there are two primary challenges lodged against the law- the cuts to Medicare and the health insurance mandates.

    Today, the GOP is pursuing the Ryan budget plan that would destroy Medicare as we know it, turning it into a voucher program that has no chance of keeping up with the rising costs of medical care and leaving seniors to face a future of inadequate and unavailable health care.

    It is no secret that polling reveals that Americans are very much not in favor of Ryan’s plan.

    So much is this the case, the health care issue that played such a large role in handing the House of Representatives over to the GOP last November, is now the very same issue that has become the focal point of the special election in New York’s 26th Congressional District where polling shows Democrat Kathy Hochul is leading Republican Jane Corwin in what has long been a safe GOP seat.

    The reason Hochul may emerge victorious?

    The GOP’s anti-Medicare plan.

    The irony is exquisite.

    As for the health insurance mandates, reviewing the field of the major GOP presidential contenders, some interesting data begins to emerge.

    Newt Gingrich – for mandated health insurance before he was against it (although he may have already switched positions again this morning.)

    Jon Huntsman – for mandated health insurance before he was against it. Indeed, mandates were a vital part of the health care reform Huntsman pushed as Governor of Utah before the GOP majority in the state legislature put the brakes on the idea.

    Mitt Romney- as the true father of Obamacare, clearly he was for mandates before he was against them.

    Only Tim Pawlenty appears to be in the clear on the topic.

    The time has arrived for even the most critical to take another look at health care reform. Facts and figures don’t lie – if accurately presented.

    And while the full jury won’t be in for a few more years, maybe the time has come for average Americans more interested in what is best for their country rather than grinding a political axe, to reconsider their views.

    I think you’ll like what you see.

    More Solid Proof That Obamacare Is Working - Forbes

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    Considering faltering HC reform is Obama's main (perhaps only) real achievement, it's a bit of a shame for him that it's of no real net benefit to him at the Ballot box.

    But this will come as some good news-

    U.S. health care spending grew by 3.9 percent in 2010, reaching $2.6 trillion, according to the report by the Health and Human Services department.

    That's an average of $8,402 per person – far more than any other economically advanced country.

    Still, the increases for 2010 and 2009 were the lowest measured in 51 years. And health care as a share of the economy leveled off at 17.9 percent, the first time in a decade there's been no growth.

    ... The nonpartisan number crunchers at HHS found that the health care law barely contributed to cost increases in 2010 – just one-tenth of 1 percentage point. Major provisions expanding coverage to more than 30 million uninsured don't take effect until 2014, well after the presidential election.

    Health Care Spending Slowdown Could Mean New Success In Cost Control


    At 17.9% of GDP US health care spending is outrageously high, and it has to come down significantly for the nation to compete internationally.

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