9/11.....five years on

**raycarey** · 09-09-2006, 04:07 PM

five years ago, extremists attacked the US and killed approx. 3000 americans.

the alleged engineer of the attacks remains at large.

NATO is pleading for assistance against the taliban in the forgotten war in afghanistan.

whether you call it 'sectarian strife' or 'civil war', over 100 iraqis are being murdered every day.

hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives are being wasted in iraq, even though there was absolutely no link between 9/11 and saddam.

donald rumsfeld remains secretary of defense.

dep. sec. of def. paul wolfowitz was named president of the world bank.

former CIA chief george tenet was awarded the nation's highest civilian honor....the medal of freedom.

whatever happened to accountability?

**Butterfly** · 09-09-2006, 06:56 PM

The buck stop here

Not with Bush it doesn't.

Bringing back Honor and Morality to the Oval Office after Clinton almost destroyed America because of his blowjob.

**barbaro** · 09-09-2006, 07:20 PM

Just a little under 3,000 Americans got killed in 9/11.

Deaths like these are sad, of course.

But numerically, these numbers are a drop in the bucket.

This was mostly a symbolic attack.

American murdered over 100,000 Cambodian civilian men, women, and children. 9/11 was under 3,000.

I am tired of Americans making a big deal about Sept. 11.

The Americans have done many 9.11s all over the world.

Azzholes get what they deserve. Americans got what was coming to them.

**man with no head** · 10-09-2006, 02:32 AM

Don't forget the Axis of terror: Iran, Syria, North Korea. Have we accomplished anything against any one of those three? Two of them are nuclear declared or nuclear potential. What did Iraq have to do with 9-11 or any substantial threat to anyone?

**endure** · 10-09-2006, 03:46 AM

Don't forget the 3,000(ish) that have been killed in Northern Ireland over the past 30 years. And don't forgot that the US government allowed NORAID to collect funds to help those deaths along...

**benbaaa** · 10-09-2006, 07:12 AM

When will Bush realise this uncomfortable comparison:

Five years after Pearl Harbour, the Germans and Japanese were trounced. Five years after 9/11, terrorism is gaining ground faster than it ever was before.

You can't fight 'terrorism' with troops and gunships, any more than you can fight drugs with cops and prisons.

**man with no head** · 10-09-2006, 07:19 AM

^ Excellent posts.

**Butterfly** · 10-09-2006, 12:15 PM

Not an entire failure I might add:

1. Dick Cheney is more rich than ever
2. Oil companies are making a killing in profits
3. Weapons companies are also making a killing (not pun intended)
4. And Champagne is flowing in some board rooms

I would say that Iraq has been a success for some.

**kingwilly** · 10-09-2006, 02:05 PM

^ unfortunately all too true! afganistan is also a big mess. but no oil profits there. opiums going well again.

**HermantheGerman** · 10-09-2006, 02:50 PM

>In committing The Atrocity of September 11, Islamic terrorists did far more damage to their religion than to New York City or the Pentagon. As U.S. Special Forces teams hunt them down and put them to death, they and all the bin Ladens of the Moslem terrorism network should know that the world is soon to learn about the Myth of Mecca.<

The Myth of Mecca

**raycarey** · 10-09-2006, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

the bin Ladens of the Moslem terrorism network should know that the world is soon to learn about the Myth of Mecca

herman you do realize that this post and link have nothing to do with the topic, right?

however, if we're going to compare fairy tales....i also like the one about bethlehem, the manger and the three kings.

good stuff.

**Butterfly** · 10-09-2006, 07:09 PM

and creationism

**barbaro** · 10-09-2006, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

>In committing The Atrocity of September 11, Islamic terrorists did far more damage to their religion than to New York City or the Pentagon. As U.S. Special Forces teams hunt them down and put them to death, they and all the bin Ladens of the Moslem terrorism network should know that the world is soon to learn about the Myth of Mecca.<

The Myth of Mecca

I agree with Herman the German, here.

I believe that all religions are MYTHS.

And Islam....is just another myth.

The entire concept of an illiterate guy named Mohamed, writing a religious word of god, to me, is complete bullshit.

Total bullshit.

**RDN** · 11-09-2006, 12:57 AM

Thailand, UBC TV, HBO channel, "Fahrenheit 9/11" is on in 4 minutes... 1:00 am Thai time.

**HermantheGerman** · 11-09-2006, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

the bin Ladens of the Moslem terrorism network should know that the world is soon to learn about the Myth of Mecca

herman you do realize that this post and link have nothing to do with the topic, right?

however, if we're going to compare fairy tales....i also like the one about bethlehem, the manger and the three kings.

good stuff.

Did you read the article?

**Butterfly** · 11-09-2006, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by RDN

Thailand, UBC TV, HBO channel, "Fahrenheit 9/11" is on in 4 minutes... 1:00 am Thai time.

That movie was OK and interesting, but hardly news. So much hype surrounding it.

Loose Change and Loose Change 2 are great documentaries on that topic.

**Wallace** · 11-09-2006, 10:00 AM

Oh dear, Herman, it's such a shame when you drag up such utter crap.

Here's another quote from the same guy, different article:
"In the winter, the Gobi freezes with icy winds blasting from Siberia. The liberals, the Democrats, the anti-capitalists, are making every effort to wax now. Let us hope there are enough people still in America to prove Fromm wrong, enough to ensure that the enemies of freedom and capitalism become little more than an odd curiosity, like a glacier in the Gobi Desert."

It's a bit like quoting Hitler or Goring when it comes to a rational discussion of Judaism. There are a lot of extremists out there, Herman, and Jack Wheeler has proved that he's just another, hell-bent on stirring up anti-muslim feeling and so sure of himself that only 'American freedom and democracy' are all that matters.

**Mhz** · 11-09-2006, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Milky

The entire concept of an illiterate guy named Mohamed, writing a religious word of god, to me, is complete bullshit.

Still there are many wonderful things in that book.

**machangezi** · 11-09-2006, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Milkman

The entire concept of an illiterate guy named Mohamed, writing a religious word of god, to me, is complete bullshit.

There're well above billion followers!

**keda** · 11-09-2006, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mhz

Originally Posted by Milky

The entire concept of an illiterate guy named Mohamed, writing a religious word of god, to me, is complete bullshit.

Still there are many wonderful things in that book.

Wonderful enough to steal it? Just read on a random facts site that the Bible is the most shoplifted book in the US?

**HermantheGerman** · 11-09-2006, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Wallace

Oh dear, Herman, it's such a shame when you drag up such utter crap.

Here's another quote from the same guy, different article:
"In the winter, the Gobi freezes with icy winds blasting from Siberia. The liberals, the Democrats, the anti-capitalists, are making every effort to wax now. Let us hope there are enough people still in America to prove Fromm wrong, enough to ensure that the enemies of freedom and capitalism become little more than an odd curiosity, like a glacier in the Gobi Desert."

It's a bit like quoting Hitler or Goring when it comes to a rational discussion of Judaism. There are a lot of extremists out there, Herman, and Jack Wheeler has proved that he's just another, hell-bent on stirring up anti-muslim feeling and so sure of himself that only 'American freedom and democracy' are all that matters.

Your best comment is.....he came dancing across theee woater now
Cortez...Cortez

P.S. I love Neil Young

**Rigger** · 11-09-2006, 02:17 PM

RC you are a total flog bag I see you edited your post the bit about America deserving ever thing it got. They were people from all over world that died in the WTC shit for brains. You are lower than worm shit.

**raycarey** · 11-09-2006, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Rigger

RC you are a total flog bag I see you edited your post the bit about America deserving ever thing it got. They were people from all over world that died in the WTC shit for brains. You are lower than worm shit.

since i'm the only rc posting on this thread, i can only assume that you're referring to me.

however, i never posted anything of the kind.

you're a pathetic liar.

**HermantheGerman** · 11-09-2006, 05:24 PM

Dear Wallace

Here is anothrt GREAT article from Dr. Jack Wheeler

Moses in Mecca

...raised my rifle to my eye never stopped to wonder why

**Butterfly** · 11-09-2006, 06:22 PM

Well the conclusion after 5 years of failure is that:

THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON

But hey who cares ?

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