Thread: The barbaric practice of arranged marriages

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Elvis chose his wife and so did John Wayne

Elvis and John Wayne married the same woman?? You learn something new everyday.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

A wife should never refuse herself to her husband even if it is on the saddle of a camel.

Is that where the expression 'to hump your wife' comes from?

Having the girls marry some FOB (fresh off the boat) seems to be common in the UK. IME, Hindus try to arrange meetings between guys and girls, but let the two people ultimately decide. Granted, you get a lot of pressure if you are still single in your late 20s. Reminds me, I have to put my profile on shaadi.com.

As for the Muslims, no fokin excuses for them. You need to reasonably adapt to society. You can't selectively support some legislation (equal rights for minorities) and ignore the ones you don't like (equal rights for women).

Originally Posted by Macha

Yes Marmite, he can only advise her. He can only tell her what's good for her and what's not (as an elder brother) but he can't impose his will on her even if she's making wrong decisions.

I'm sorry MAcha - once again you have highlighted your (thai-like) ability to completely ignore inconvenient comments staring you in the face......

in this case -

Originally Posted by Mhz

then I'll be obliged to stop her.

Originally Posted by macha

An elder's the one who should interfere.

so you ARE saying that a relative should interfere, the difference here (the way i'm reading it) is just a matter of who is permitted to interfere - so brother no - but ? head of family - yes? older uncles ?

Originally Posted by macha

Now you're getting me wrong here. I only said "ADVISE".

Umm - no u didnt - you only said advise re: Mhz as brother. you said an 'elders' SHOULD interfere.....

Originally Posted by njdesi

Having the girls marry some FOB (fresh off the boat) seems to be common in the UK. IME, Hindus try to arrange meetings between guys and girls, but let the two people ultimately decide. Granted, you get a lot of pressure if you are still single in your late 20s. Reminds me, I have to put my profile on shaadi.com.

As for the Muslims, no fokin excuses for them. You need to reasonably adapt to society. You can't selectively support some legislation (equal rights for minorities) and ignore the ones you don't like (equal rights for women).

When was the last time you were in India? Recently one of the girls who work with me went back to India to get married with a guy she never seen. It doesn't end there her parents had to pay dowry (sp?) and she's supposed to bring the fockwit to Thailand.

I'm talking about AP, India.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Obviously, it is wrong and barbaric, and a basic affront to human rights

Sometimes I really wonder about you MtD...

you have a Thai girl friend and yet you post this crap...

has it never occurred to you that most marriages in Thai hi-society are 'arranged'...or is it just coincidence that they never marry beneath themselves and always to the betterment of the families finances...irrespective of what they personally think or want...

Originally Posted by Mhz

Muslims always follow Mohammad's way of life and consider his actions as a guidence.

As for the 'twerp'...this is the biggest load of crock i've ever read on the net...and that's saying something....grow a brain Mhzzzzzz

don't care what religion, faith a person is, but macha's statement to let an "elder do it" that is straighten out an errant siblings behaviour, really shows the fundamental flaw in not only eastern cultures butmanywestern cultures as well.
i was working part time in a geriatric hospital back home, my father was the boss. he took me on rounds one day and when we walked into a patients room, the old man patient let fly with a shit load of vitriole.
my father turned to him and told him to fuck off.
i was shocked. i had always been taught, by my father and at sunday school to respect your elders.
when i voiced my displeasure to my father, he said to me.
"son. just because a person is old, doesn't mean you have to respect them. respect is earned. an old prick was a ayoung prick, and unfortunately a lot of them don't grow out of it. you get respect when you earn respect"
one of the things the old prick really impressed me with. why do we , or are taught that age demands respect.? most of my relatives are in awe of the fact that i live o.s. yet i still get advice from my "elders" about things they have no idea about. not saying we shouldn't listen, but there is more to the world than humping camels because your unable to find a g/f for yourself .
macha, do you think, with your experience of the world, that your elders are in a position to "offer" advice to your sister or anyone else for that matter. advice outside the "book" or qoran that is????

Originally Posted by klongmaster

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Obviously, it is wrong and barbaric, and a basic affront to human rights

Sometimes I really wonder about you MtD...

you have a Thai girl friend and yet you post this crap...

has it never occurred to you that most marriages in Thai hi-society are 'arranged'...or is it just coincidence that they never marry beneath themselves and always to the betterment of the families finances...irrespective of what they personally think or want...

I sometimes wonder if you can read, you old fart.

If (and you've not shown me any proof) arranged marriages are common in Thailand, then it is IMO just as bad as if it happens in any country. And what the fuck me having a Thai GF has got to do with it, I don't know.

I know that arranged marriages are common in muslim countries, but I have not seen any evidence of it happening here., which says that it either doesn't happen, or it is on such a small scale, that's it's not worth getting worked up about.

I suggest you bring some bullets before you try to shoot someone.

personally i only know 3 friends (indians from india - none of whom are muslim) who have had arranged marriages. And when I have met each couple they seem very happy. OK so maybe the guys involved were fairly wealthy by indian standards (merchant navy officers) and their fathers chose quite tasty women for their sons.

Originally Posted by Macha

When was the last time you were in India? Recently one of the girls who work with me went back to India to get married with a guy she never seen. It doesn't end there her parents had to pay dowry (sp?) and she's supposed to bring the fockwit to Thailand.

I'm talking about AP, India.

good point India is also fucked!

Originally Posted by klongmaster

has it never occurred to you that most marriages in Thai hi-society are 'arranged'...

Yes, I've heard about that also but I don't know anyone of them. My parents seem not to arrange marriage for me but they want me to keep being single then I can pay attention (and something else) to them for eternity.

Originally Posted by Goddess of Whatever

Yes, I've heard about that also but I don't know anyone of them. My parents seem not to arrange marriage for me but they want me to keep being single then I can pay attention (and something else) to them for eternity.

i am sure sooner or later they will want grandchildren though!

My sister-in-law is going to give them one so..

Originally Posted by slimboyfat

they want me to keep being single then I can pay attention (and something else) to them for eternity.

My apologies if this is out of order but are they "arranging" for you to not get married for financial reasons ?
That's just as bad as the opposite.

Suits me!

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Originally Posted by slimboyfat

they want me to keep being single then I can pay attention (and something else) to them for eternity.

My apologies if this is out of order but are they "arranging" for you to not get married for financial reasons ?
That's just as bad as the opposite.

oi! leave me out of this!!!

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

oi! leave me out of this!!!

Sorry

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

oi! leave me out of this!!!

Sorry

Err, thanks, I think

Originally Posted by Macha

When was the last time you were in India? Recently one of the girls who work with me went back to India to get married with a guy she never seen. It doesn't end there her parents had to pay dowry (sp?) and she's supposed to bring the fockwit to Thailand.

I'm talking about AP, India.

She's bringing him back to Thailand? Then she hasn't been raised in the West. A lot of my friends have used matchmakers to find a spouse. All of them have had final say. In the US, the dowry pretty much is used to pay for the wedding. Isn't that a Christian tradition also, where the daughter's family pays for the wedding?

I haven't heard of anyone in the U.S. giving a dowry. Traditionally the bride's family pays for the wedding.

Calling arranged marriages "barbaric" seems a bit harsh to me. I guess the exception would be arranging marriages to children under the age of 18.

"Selling" under age girls into marriage does sound barbaric to me though.

These young, young girls getting pregnant too soon really screws up their bodies. Especially when their bodies haven't matured to the point where they can successfully have a baby pass through the birth canal.