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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    I wouldn't put too much credence in Media Matters if I were you. They are the far left version of the spectrum. Heavy spinning.
    spinning the charts above?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    I wouldn't put too much credence in Media Matters if I were you. They are the far left version of the spectrum. Heavy spinning.
    Because they have the temerity to call out FOX for yet another misleading BS graphic?

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    Boon Mee's view of things :

    Media Matters is spinning.

    FOX only transforme the reality of the situation.

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    Some conservative outlets are making a fuss over the White House's Christmas Card, saying there is no Christmas in it.



    Fox News Radio ran a report that read this way,

    The official White House holiday card makes no mention of the word ‘Christmas’ and instead focused on Bo the First Dog based on the wishes of the First Family.

    “From our family to yours, may your holidays shine with the light of the season,” read the inside of the card, featuring the presidential seal.

    The front of the card features Bo the First Dog lounging by a fireplace. Holiday greenery is draped over the fireplace mantle. Holiday presents are placed on a table underneath a poinsettia – instead of a Christmas tree.


    Besides the presents wrapped in red and gold bows, the garland, and the traditional Christmas poinsettias, there is no Christmas in it.



    Sarah Palin even opined on the issue on Fox.



    "It's odd," Palin said, wondering why the president's Christmas card highlights his dog instead of traditions like "family, faith and freedom."




    Regan Christmas card/Bush card




    Fox News Christmas card 2011.









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    The bookshelf is filled with Lenin's B-sides, the Constitution is burning in the fireplace, Winston Churchill's bust is conspicuously absent, Bo has become dependent on the federal government for handouts, and the empty seat is a stirring reminder of President Obama's nonexistent leadership.

    Fox and Sarah Palin Freak Over White House Christmas Card | Mother Jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    The bookshelf is filled with Lenin's B-sides, the Constitution is burning in the fireplace, Winston Churchill's bust is conspicuously absent, Bo has become dependent on the federal government for handouts, and the empty seat is a stirring reminder of President Obama's nonexistent leadership.
    Well, what's inaccurate about any of that?
    Valid points all...

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    Heh...nothing like calling a spade a spade, eh?

    A Fox News guest said that some people might want to describe President Obama as a "skinny, ghetto crackhead" Thursday night.

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    ^ bwahahahaha. Hey, what's that sucky painting above the mantlepiece in the presidential holiday card photo? Vista of Kenya?

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    China Is Helping to Arm Iran and Sidestep Sanctions Thanks to an Assist From North Korea
    Reza Kahlili
    December 14, 2011


    February 2011: Iranian President Mamoud Ahmadinejad, shown in this file photo pumping his fist, reportedly has been butting heads with Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, in background.

    China is circumventing international sanctions against Iran by enlisting North Korea’s help in providing the Islamic state with its most advanced intercontinental ballistic missiles and the technical expertise to make those nuclear warhead-capable missiles operational. And now the Communist giant is threatening to come to Iran’s defense should the missile or nuclear sites be attacked.

    Referring this critical problem to the United Nations won’t work because China has veto power in the Security Council.

    The United States and the West must therefore bring all the pressure to bear against China they can — and do it immediately.


    Aug. 2010: Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaks during a meeting with Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in Tehran.

    Time literally is running out.

    The Revolutionary Guards, under orders from the Iranian supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, have long been preparing for war, knowing that their nuclear bomb program could invite a preemptive strike by Israel or America.

    Media outlets quote Chinese Maj. Gen. Zhang Zhaozhong as warning that in case of attack, China should not hesitate to protect Iran, even if it means launching World War III.

    The Iranian-owned state media ran big headlines recently quoting Chinese President Hu Jintao as saying that he has ordered the Chinese Navy to prepare for war and that, in case of an attack on Iran, China will defend Iran.

    When Mohammad Ali Jafari was appointed the chief commander of the Guards by Khamenei in September 2007, he formed 31 command-and-control centers in and around Iran that could operate independently in case of war. Each center is authorized to suppress any unrest and to confront any enemy.

    Jafari also brought Iran’s Basij militia — a group of pro-government vigilantes — under Guard command to ensure greater coordination while at the same time forming thousands of Basij special units to suppress any uprisings that could arise after a possible attack.

    Expecting war, Jafari weeks ago ordered the formation of the 32nd command-and-control center just for the security of Tehran, the capital of Iran. Now the Guards have assigned two divisions to protect Tehran.

    The Guards at the same time have established hundreds of underground ballistic missile silos across Iran to achieve two goals:

    First, these missiles, which have predetermined targets, could be fired from multiple sites toward an enemy.

    Second, multiple hidden sites would make it difficult for satellites to pinpoint any launch and therefore lower the possibility of the missiles being taken out prior to launch.

    The Guards have openly announced that American military bases will be targeted in retaliation for any attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities. Sources within Iran reveal that U.S. military bases in France, Hungary, Italy and Germany are among the targets.

    As I revealed in May, the Guards possess ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads that have a range of over 2,000 miles, which could reach several capitals in Western Europe. The opposition group Green Experts of Iran now reports that the Guards have also obtained intercontinental ballistic missiles from China.

    In recent years, the Revolutionary Guards put everything they had into boosting their military capabilities by developing long-range ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads.

    But they failed.

    They then turned to China, which delivered to Iran 11 Dong Feng 3A missiles whose range exceeds 1,600 miles.

    By 2009, concurrent with the increased in tensions between Iran and the international community, as well as the intensity of the unrest inside Iran, the Guards began talks with China and finalized an $11 billion deal in which China agreed to provide the Guards with advanced ICBMs, DF-31s, which have a minimum 4,300-mile range and can carry nuclear warheads.

    China also agreed to help design several of Iran’s missile programs and provide expert training inside Iran. The contract called for delivery of six ICBMs, six mobile units for the missiles and 40 blast chambers to be assembled by the Revolutionary Guards inside a military complex.

    Sources reveal that the missiles were delivered about a year ago, but the Guards failed in setting this missile project in motion.

    Given the mounting international pressures against Iran’s nuclear program, even China announced it cannot further cooperate in Iran’s militaristic ambitions — unless sanctions can be circumvented.

    According to the Green Experts, in order to resolve the basic problems of the missile project, a joint delegation of Chinese and North Korean experts traveled to Iran. Ultimately it was agreed that in exchange for $7 billion, hardware, installation and launch of the technology and the necessary training for the project would be handled by the North Koreans, since Pyongyang doesn’t recognize the U.N. sanctions.

    North Korea, for its part, guaranteed that it would do its utmost in bolstering the Chinese-equipped missile project, and eventually situate its experts in Iran so that in critical conditions, the missiles will remain operational.

    It is now logical to conclude that the explosions that occurred at the IRGC base 28 miles west of Tehran on Nov. 12 were due to Iranian missile experts working on the Chinese DF-31 missile.

    Sources reveal that following the explosions at the Guards’ base and the loss of many key commanders running the missile program, a meeting was organized between the Revolutionary Guards and representatives of North Korea. It was agreed at that meeting that North Korea would expedite sending their missile experts to Iran — as of Dec. 10 — to get the missile system up and running.

    With the Obama administration and European countries failing to implement crippling sanctions against Iran and openly stating that a military option could be devastating to the global economy, it seems that the radicals ruling Iran will soon not only have nuclear bombs but also the means to deliver them almost anywhere on the globe. There’s no time to waste.

    Reza Kahlili, a pseudonym for a former CIA operative in Iran’s Revolutionary Guards and the author of the award-winning book,A Time to Betray. He is a senior Fellow with EMPact America and teaches at the U.S. Department of Defense’s Joint Counterintelligence Training Academy (JCITA).

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    NB: In the original article the heading opinion is also in small type ...

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    Heh...good news or what?

    Investors brush off News Corp hacking saga




    In the six months since the revelation that the News of the World accessed a murdered teenager’s voicemail messages, the scandal has cost Rupert Murdoch the British tabloid he bought in 1969 his bid for full control of British Sky Broadcasting, some of his closest executives and, perhaps, his dream of family succession.
    Yet, in Wall Street’s eyes, it is as though nothing happened. This week, shares in News Corp hit a 52-week high, edging past the peak at which they stood before the Milly Dowler report upended Britain’s media, police and political establishment.

    Yes, investors know a good deal when they see one and Fox News is a gold-plated stock, eh?


    Investors brush off News Corp hacking saga - FT.com

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    How Fox News Is Destroying the Republican Party

    More and more despondent conservatives are expressing alarm over the unfolding Republican primary season and what they see as the party's dwindling chances of defeating President Obama in November. Spooked at the general elections prospects facing frontrunners Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich (especially Gingrich), members of the so-called Republican Establishment seem to want to reboot the election season and try their nominating luck again.

    Sorry, it's too late.

    If the current state of concern transforms into a larger, enveloping blame game, Fox News chairman Ailes ought be a looming target. True, conservatives in recent years have shown virtually no interest in critiquing, let alone trying to rein in, Ailes' empire. Still, it's becoming increasingly clear that Fox's programming and the radical, fear-based agenda it's setting for Republicans is now doing lasting damage to the Grand Old Party.


    .... For Ailes and company, that slash-and-burn formula works wonders in terms of super-serving its hardcore, hard-right audience of three million viewers. But in terms of supporting a serious, national campaign and a serious, national conversation? It's not working. At all.

    Eric Boehlert: How Fox News Is Destroying the Republican Party


    How not to win votes- glenn beck, the tea party, sarah palin, etc. Brought to you by Fox News.
    probes Aliens

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    ^but, but they have the bestest of all bestest ratings

    still: Cable News Ratings for Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers

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    Yes, the best Cable News rating. But most Fox viewers are over 60, and the Jon Stewart show- which devotes itself to extracting the urine from Fox- has a way bigger viewer base .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    With the Muppetts coming out and bad-mouthing Fox News, the liberal rot has reached new levels. Shame on them...

    I think FOX started it




    Fox News: The Muppets Are Brainwashing Your Kids Against Capitalism

    To be fair, so are a lot of other Hollywood properties — Captain Planet, Cars 2, Syriana (your kids saw that one, we're sure) — but the ever-vigilant cable news channel has started a new offensive against the latest Muppets movie owing to its negative portrayal of the oil industry. Certain anchors over at Fox, along with one eager representative from the Media Research Center, feel that the movie's villain — evil oil executive Tex Richman, played by Chris Cooper — will teach children that drilling is bad and communism is good. Cue the hysterics! Our favorite quotes from the segment, in no particular order: "What they're telling your kids is what they told them in The Matrix: that mankind is a virus on poor old Mother Earth." Also, from one shrieking woman about five minutes in: "There's no competitive source on the market besides crude." The kids will totally get that. Finally, a snide question from host Eric Bolling: "Are there any Occupy Wall Street Muppets?" Uh, yes, actually, there are! Did no one tell Fox News about Occupy Sesame Street? Missed opportunities all around.

    Nazis: Fox News: The Muppets Are Brainwashing Your Kids Against Capitalism -- Vulture
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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    With the Muppetts coming out and bad-mouthing Fox News, the liberal rot has reached new levels. Shame on them...

    I think FOX started it

    Fox did, but in their usual inimitable style of being the underdog they have reversed that and are portraying themselves as the victims yet again of the MSN or Hollywood
    or whatever they feel like at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    According to the May Nielson ratings, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart beat the entire Fox News network in terms of total viewers. Stewart averaged 2.3 million viewers, while the Fox News prime time and day time line up averaged 1.85 million viewers.
    While Stewart is on the rise, Fox News had a really, really bad May. Total viewership was down 10%, and Fox News lost viewers in the 25-54 demo in every prime time show. Bill O’Reilly was down 9%, Sean Hannity was down 6%, and Greta Van Susteren dropped 12%

    Faux makes a lot of noise about how they are the top rated cable news channel- and they are. The Daily Show is also a cable TV program- shown on the Comedy Channel. It is not counted in the same Poll- but it kicks Faux butt.

    Here's the problem, Roger:-

    Jon Stewart is the biggest threat to Fox News’ future out there. He is literally teaching his audience, which is bigger than FNC’s, how to see through the partisan propaganda that Rupert Murdoch has based his network on. Stewart is educating an entire generation of viewers on how to watch cable news, or more specifically how not to watch Fox News.


    Oh, Roger. One more thing:-

    Unless Fox News can figure out a way to attract younger viewers, they are facing a future where their audience will eventually, literally, die off. A 2010 survey found that the average age of the Fox News viewer is 65 years old. Fox has the oldest audience on all of cable. (FNC’s audience is older than The History Channel, The Hallmark Channel, and The Golf Channel).


    The average age of the Faux news viewer is 65.
    I'm surprised Fox viewers live that long. Maybe they're all with VA.
    I trust they don't charge too much for their advertising.


    So really, when you look at a dedicated cable news network that is outsold in audience terms by a comedy show that takes the piss out of it, and who's average viewer age is 65, one has to ask the obvious question. Wot's all the fuss about?

    Unwittingly, the biggest value of Fox may be indirectly educating the new generation of Americans (and others) to deal with the partisan, sponsored Spin that surrounds us. Thank you, Jon Stewart.

    all quotes from- Daily Kos: Is Jon Stewart Destroying Fox News?
    Thank you for that posting. I haven't read all of this subject thread, but that one caught my attention. I'm 69, and American, and I can put up with about 5 minutes maximum of Fox bulls__.!!

    Is there any intelligence on that station? I can't watch it long enough to tell.

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    Quote from brianxx:
    "Is there any intelligence on that station? I can't watch it long enough to tell."


    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borey the Bald View Post
    Quote from brianxx:
    "Is there any intelligence on that station? I can't watch it long enough to tell."


    No.
    Aww, you just can't watch it coz Fox doesn't supply viewers with Koolaid as does MSNBC, ABC, CBS...

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    Or is it their incoherence. Americans who heard Brinkley Jennings Brokaw ,William F Buckley or the Meet the press crew are insulted bythe low brow hectoring of poorly articulated rant of Fox.Even Josef Goebbels presented propaganda better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    ....Even Josef Goebbels presented propaganda better.
    But he didn't add in all those cute little off subject items....entertainment TV....what a joke??

    Aljazeera is more 'fair and balanced'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambik View Post
    Boon Mee's view of things :

    Media Matters is spinning.

    FOX only transforme the reality of the situation.
    Erm, I'd say Media Matters is spinning :

    Media Matters founder accuses gay ex-lover of blackmailing him for $850K after breakup


    By Daily Mail Reporter

    Last updated at 11:58 PM on 27th February 2012

    Target: David Brock claims his former lover preyed on him because his Media Matters organization has put him in the public eye

    David Brock, the founder of the liberal media watchdog organization Media Matters, was blackmailed for $850,000 by his gay ex-lover who threatened to reveal information about the nonprofit group's finances to donors and the IRS, according to dueling lawsuits.

    Read more: Media Matters founder David Brock accuses gay ex-lover of blackmailing him for $850K | Mail Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by "S Landreth"
    The Muppets Are Brainwashing Your Kids Against Capitalism
    Well, I think that capitalist bashing by stuffed toys is entirely appropriate...
    Cute stuffed animals appeal to children and left wing liberals....
    Fortunately most people do mature to the extent that they realize that these really are just stuffed toys.....and realize that being anti-capitalist is just plain silly. Those other famous neo-liberal commentators Kermit and Miss Piggy were quie successful in their day too....
    I blame the Americans......and Thaksin.

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    U.K. tabloid paid ‘network of corrupted officials’

    ^^ This proves nothing and is almost not even a news issue. Show me the evidence of some kind of wrongdoing here. I see none. It is HIGHLY suspicious that faux news would release a story like that on the same day that the below story broke. This is the real story here;

    The officer leading a police investigation into Rupert Murdoch’s British newspapers said on Monday that reporters and editors at The Sun tabloid had over the years paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for information not only to police officers but also to a “network of corrupted officials” in the military and the government.

    The officer, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Sue Akers, said that e-mail records obtained by the police showed that there was a “culture at The Sun of illegal payments” that were authorized “at a very senior level within the newspaper” and involved “frequent and sometimes significant sums of money” paid to public officials in the Health Ministry and the prison service, among other agencies.

    The testimony was a sharp new turn in a months-long judicial investigation of the behaviour of Murdoch-owned and other newspapers, known as the Leveson inquiry. It detailed financial transactions that showed both the scale and the scope of alleged bribes, the covert nature of their payment and the seniority of newspaper executives accused of involvement.

    The testimony may prove damaging to the News Corporation, the American-based parent of Mr. Murdoch’s media empire, if it gives ammunition to the FBI .B.I. and other agencies that are investigating the company for possible prosecution under the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

    Until now, the Leveson inquiry delved primarily into questions of unlawful accessing of private voice mail and e-mail by tabloid journalists. That scandal that forced the company to shut down The News of the World, Mr. Murdoch’s flagship Sunday tabloid, in July, 2011. It was replaced last weekend by a new Sunday version of The Sun., which published its first issue hours before the latest hearings of the Leveson inquiry.

    That process is well under way. The practices Sue Akers described at the Leveson inquiry are ones of the past, and no longer exist at The Sun. We have already emerged a stronger company.”

    In recent weeks, a number of senior journalists from The Sun have been arrested on suspicion of making illegal payments to officials, and Ms. Akers said that the activities had been carried out by “the arrested journalists.”

    Ms. Akers said that the payments from The Sun went far beyond the occasional lunch or dinner, with one public official receiving more than $125,000 over several years, and a single journalist being allocated more than $238,000 in cash to pay sources, including government officials.

    It was clear from references in the e-mail messages – to staff members’ “risking losing their pension or job” and to the need for “tradecraft” like keeping the payments secret or making payments to friends or relatives of the officials – that the journalists in question knew that the payments were illegal, Ms. Akers said.

    “Systems have been created to facilitate such payments whilst hiding the identity of the officials receiving the money,” she said. “The e-mails indicate that payments to ‘sources’ were openly referred to within The Sun, with the category of public official being identified, rather than the individual’s identity.”

    She added: “Some of the initial e-mails reveal, upon further detailed investigation, multiple payments to individuals of thousands of pounds,” she said. “There is also mention in some e-mails of public officials being placed on ‘retainers,’ and this is a line of inquiry currently being investigated.”

    In a statement, Mr. Murdoch, the head of News Corporation whose British subsidiary owns The Sun and other major newspapers here, said the practices Ms. Akers described “are ones of the past, and no longer exist at The Sun.” It added that “we have vowed to do everything we can to get to the bottom of prior wrongdoings in order to set us on the right path for the future.”

    None of the journalists have been formally charged. At first, they were suspended by The Sun pending the investigation. But in a bold move this month, Mr. Murdoch swept in to London, reinstated all of the suspended Sun employees and said that News International, the British newspaper branch of his company, News Corporation, would pay all of their legal bills.

    He also announced the plans to publish the new Sunday newspaper to replace The News of the World, which was closed in July when it became clear that it had routinely and illegally hacked into the voicemail messages of celebrities, sports stars, politicians and crime victims as a way to obtain stories.

    After the first edition of The Sun on Sunday, Mr. Murdoch declared in a message on Twitter that it had sold about 3 million copies.

    The damaging revelations on Monday were not limited to The Sun, but extended to The News of the World.

    According to a lawyer for the Leveson Inquiry, Rebekah Brooks, the former chief executive of News International, was told explicitly by the police in 2006 that at least 100 people, including politicians and sports stars, had had their phones hacked by a private investigator working for The News of the World.

    Details of Ms. Brooks’s conversation with the police were revealed in an e-mail sent on Sept. 11, 2006, from a News International lawyer to the editor of The News of the World, Andy Coulson, the lawyer told the inquiry. According to the e-mail, Ms. Brooks was informed that police had evidence that the investigator, Glenn Mulcaire, appeared to have been paid more than $1.5-million by News International for his hacking work over a period of years.

    The revelation is hugely significant because it speaks to one of the crucial questions in the hacking inquiry that has swept through Mr. Murdoch’s British tabloids: who knew what, and when. Until 2010, Ms. Brooks, Mr. Coulson, Tom Crone and a bevy of other News International officials repeatedly declared that phone hacking at The News of the World was limited to a single “rogue reporter” – the royal correspondent, Clive Goodman, who was jailed along with Mr. Mulcaire in 2007.

    According to the e-mail, though, Ms. Brooks was told that the list of victims of Mr. Mulcaire’s hacking work included politicians, sports stars and celebrities – people Mr. Goodman would have had no reason to write about. And it said she was told that while police investigators had no direct recordings of News of the World employees hacking victim’s voice-mails, they did have phone records showing that Mr. Mulcaire had had frequent “sequences of contacts” with The News of the World before and after accesses.

    Speaking of the continuing police investigations, Ms. Akers said: “We are nearer the start than the finish on this inquiry and there remain a number of persons of interest. These include journalists and public officials.”

    In connection with a separate inquiry into phone hacking by British journalists, the Welsh singer Charlotte Church announced on Monday that she had agreed to settle her lawsuit against News International, the British newspaper subsidiary of News Corporation, for a payment of about $950,000 – much more than the company paid in earlier settlements with targets of phone hacking. The case may be a sign that the litigation over phone hacking will cost the company more than some analysts have assumed.

    U.K. tabloid paid ‘network of corrupted officials’ - The Globe and Mail

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    the Welsh singer Charlotte Church announced on Monday that she had agreed to settle her lawsuit against News International, the British newspaper subsidiary of News
    Wonder why anyone would bother hacking into her email.. all she does is sing?
    For $950K (the settlement) they can have full daily access to my email...and anything else they want.

    Anyhow; Rupert is sorry and it won't happen again....promise...

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