FOX "news"

**benbaaa** · 01-03-2011, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by benbaaa

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Can you get Fox News in Thailand? From everything I've heard, no satellite provider carries it?

Unfortunately, yes. WETV in Chiang Mai replaced CNN and the BBC with Fox and Al Jazeera. AJ is actually not too bad.

Well, then, groove with Glenn Beck. Here in northern Suphanburi, I'm lucky to get the Thai PSI channels...

I did a google search for Glenn Beck and I got this.

What time's his show on? I think I'll check it out.

**S Landreth** · 02-03-2011, 03:55 AM

Fox News reporter appears to have lied about being ‘punched’ by protester

Fox News has been making a lot of hay about one of their reporters allegedly being "punched" by a protester in Madison, Wisconsin.

Turns out, that didn't happen.

Mike Tobin, reporting from amid the massive demonstration on Friday, claimed that one of the protesters "punched" him in the arm. In another broadcast, he claimed a man threatened to break his neck.

In both cases, supporting evidence for these claims was not broadcast -- yet still, Tobin's reports have been widely cited across conservative blogs that seem eager to depict union workers as hateful and violent.

What's worse, Tobin's allegation that he was assaulted might have slipped past without rebuttal were it not for a camera-equipped bystander, who captured the scene.

Turns out, someone merely touched his shoulder, as evidenced in the video below (in the link). The incident he claimed was a "punch" could instead be described as a pat, at most.

That was apparently enough for him to later declare that even after being "punched, he was just too nice of a guy to press charges.

Fox News reporters have been repeatedly shouted down by union protesters, many of whom simply chant "Fox News lies!" every time the network's cameras set up for a live shot.

That repeated reaction led Tobin to complain how there was "hate in their eyes" during the confrontations, leading him to assume that protesters must simply hate reporters and the media in general, or that they're intolerant of alternative viewpoints.

He didn't seem to consider their actual allegation: that Fox News "lies."

The channel's woeful track record for distorting the news aside, if Tobin was seriously asking why protesters object to Fox News, then he must not watch Fox & Friends. Last week the hosts of the network's morning show literally flipped the results of a Gallup poll showing strong support for unions, relaying it to their viewers as the opposite.

As far as we can tell, protesters have not engaged in shouting down reporters for any other networks.

This video is from LiveLeak, published March 1, 2011 (open the link to view the video).

Fox News Lies: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/01/fox-news-reporter-appears-to-have-lied-about-being-punched-by-protester/

**robuzo** · 03-03-2011, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Tunaka

Yes, AJeera is decent news.

I remember about 5-6 years ago seeing their newscasts thinking they were pretty decent.

Hilary Clinton agrees:
Sec. of State Hillary Clinton: Al Jazeera is 'Real News', U.S. Losing 'Information War' - Political Punch
“In fact viewership of al Jazeera is going up in the United States because it’s real news. You may not agree with it, but you feel like you’re getting real news around the clock instead of a million commercials and, you know, arguments between talking heads and the kind of stuff that we do on our news which, you know, is not particularly informative to us, let alone foreigners,” she added.

**ItsRobsLife** · 03-03-2011, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Last week the hosts of the network's morning show literally flipped the results of a Gallup poll showing strong support for unions, relaying it to their viewers as the opposite.

Incredible, but Fox viewers don't tune in for the truth.

**Muadib** · 10-03-2011, 06:38 AM

^ Funny you should mention Fox News and the truth in the same sentence...

Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada

Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada

By Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Reader Supported News
01 March 11

s America's middle class battles for its survival on the Wisconsin barricades - against various Koch Oil surrogates and the corporate toadies at Fox News - fans of enlightenment, democracy and justice can take comfort from a significant victory north of the Wisconsin border. Fox News will not be moving into Canada after all! The reason: Canadian regulators announced last week they would reject efforts by Canada's right-wing Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, to repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.

Canada's Radio Act requires that "a licenser may not broadcast ... any false or misleading news." The provision has kept Fox News and right-wing talk radio out of Canada and helped make Canada a model for liberal democracy and freedom. As a result of that law, Canadians enjoy high quality news coverage, including the kind of foreign affairs and investigative journalism that flourished in this country before Ronald Reagan abolished the "Fairness Doctrine" in 1987. Political dialogue in Canada is marked by civility, modesty, honesty, collegiality, and idealism that have pretty much disappeared on the US airwaves. When Stephen Harper moved to abolish the anti-lying provision of the Radio Act, Canadians rose up to oppose him fearing that their tradition of honest non-partisan news would be replaced by the toxic, overtly partisan, biased and dishonest news coverage familiar to American citizens who listen to Fox News and talk radio. Harper's proposal was timed to facilitate the launch of a new right-wing network, "Sun TV News" which Canadians call "Fox News North."

Harper, often referred to as "George W. Bush's Mini Me," is known for having mounted a Bush-like war on government scientists, data collectors, transparency, and enlightenment in general. He is a wizard of all the familiar tools of demagoguery; false patriotism, bigotry, fear, selfishness and belligerent religiosity.

Harper's attempts to make lying legal on Canadian television are a stark admission that right-wing political ideology can only dominate national debate through dishonest propaganda. Since corporate profit-taking is not an attractive vessel for populism, a political party or broadcast network that makes itself the tool of corporate and financial elites must lie to make its agenda popular with the public. In the Unites States, Fox News and talk radio, the sock puppets of billionaires and corporate robber barons, have become the masters of propaganda and distortion on the public airwaves. Fox News' notoriously biased and dishonest coverage of the Wisconsin's protests is a prime example of the brand of news coverage Canada has smartly avoided.

**Boon Mee** · 19-03-2011, 08:58 AM

A new study released by the Pew Internet & American Life Project shows that while more and more Americans get political news online, television is still the most popular medium to get that information.

And where do Americans get their political news on TV? A plurality say Fox News Channel. MSNBC is 2nd to last.

After all, FOX News is totally balanced and unafraid.

Just wish that True carried it here. CNN makes me gag. BBC keeps playing that stupid preview music and is boring as hell. Bloomberg is the best of the lot if you can only get True...

**socal** · 19-03-2011, 09:32 AM

Fox is a right wing channel.

Everything else is socialist, and I mean everything else.

**Muadib** · 23-03-2011, 02:34 AM

Nothing quite like making it up as they go along... No wonder the Canadian government won't grant Fox News a broadcast license as they couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it...

CNN correspondent rejects Fox report on human shields - CNN.com

CNN correspondent rejects Fox report on human shields

By the CNN Wire Staff
March 22, 2011 11:38 a.m. EDT

Tripoli, Libya (CNN) -- A CNN correspondent on Monday angrily rejected a report by the Fox network that he and other journalists were used as human shields by Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi to prevent a missile attack on his compound.

The Fox story, labeled "exclusive" and posted on the Fox website Monday, said the presence of news crews from CNN, Reuters and other organizations forced a British aircraft to call off firing seven Storm Shadow missiles at the area that already had been hit.

"Officials from Libya's Ministry of Information brought those journalists to the area to show them damage from the initial attack and to effectively use them as human shields," said the Fox report.

According to the Fox story, the curtailed strike "led to a great deal of consternation by coalition commanders."

Nic Robertson, a veteran CNN correspondent who was part of the CNN crew cited in the Fox story, called the rival network's report "outrageous and hypocritical."
Robertson said a Fox staffer was among the journalists on the trip -- a fact left out of the Fox report -- and that the journalists in the group were hurried through their trip by their minders.

"To say it was a human shield is nuts," Robertson said, later adding: "I expect lies from the government here. I don't expect it from other journalists. It's frankly incredibly disappointing."

One of the writers of the story, Fox's Jennifer Griffin, clarified her story Monday evening. Griffin said she had been unaware that a member of the Fox team, a security guard, was given a camera and went on the trip to Gadhafi's compound.

"I have since learned that Fox did indeed go. I did not know about that earlier today. That is my mistake and I apologize for the error," Griffin said on Greta Van Susteren's show.

The Times of London -- which like Fox is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation -- backed the Fox version of events in a front-page story Monday.
"The Times and other foreign media effectively became temporary human shields on Sunday night when we agreed to be bussed in by officials to Colonel Gadhafi's main compound in Tripoli to visit the site of an allied missile attack," Deborah Haynes wrote in a story datelined Tripoli.

The paper also cited a government spokesman as saying that "thousands" of civilians were at military facilities and other potential targets. It said another source said some of them were being held against their will.

The incident involved a trip Sunday night arranged by Libyan authorities to the Gadhafi compound that had been bombed earlier by coalition forces.

Robertson said the 40 or so journalists on the bus weren't told ahead of time where they were going, and that there was no attempt by the Libyan minders to restrict anyone from getting on or off the bus before they left.

Upon arrival, the journalists spent about 20 minutes at the damaged building and then were hurried to a tent where they waited with Gadhafi supporters for him to appear, Robertson said. Gadhafi never showed up, and the journalists went back to their bus and departed, according to Robertson.

A government official even pushed him onto the bus as he tried to broadcast a live shot at the end, Robertson said.

"If they wanted to use us as human shields ... they would have kept us there longer," Robertson said. "That's not what happened."

Robertson noted that the sole participant on the trip from Fox wasn't normally a reporter or videographer, but was given a camera and told to go along. In general, Robertson said, the Fox team in Tripoli rarely goes on the reporting trips arranged by the government.

The CNN team goes in order to get whatever information it can to assess what happened and compare it to government versions of events, he said. Otherwise, he noted, the journalists are dependent on government-edited videotape that likely omits key details.

For example, U.S. officials called the Gadhafi compound a legitimate target because it included command and control capability, Robertson noted.

"We want to go and see; is it a command and control system? What are the telltale signs there that the government wouldn't want us to see?" Robertson said.

**Boon Mee** · 21-05-2011, 10:52 AM

Heh...put this in yer bongs and hit it all you Fox News haters!

Poll: By Wide Margin Fox News Most Trusted News Outlet, Beats MSNBC by 21 Points…

Liberals received some more bad news this week as a new Suffolk University poll revealed that Fox News is the most trusted political news source among those surveyed.

FOX News — 28%
CNN — 18%
Undecided —12%
NBC — 10%
Other — 10%
MSNBC — 7%
ABC — 6%
CBS — 6%
C-SPAN — 3%

For CNN the poll was a little bit of good news at a time the network is struggling with it’s primetime lineup, and after they received a black-eye this week for omitting former New York governor and current CNN host Eliot Spitzer from a story on political sex scandals.

The news wasn’t so good for MSNBC which finished a distant third to its cable news brethren with just 7% of respondents saying that they trusted the liberal cable news network.

**sabang** · 03-06-2011, 05:04 AM

Very good and detailed article here about the career and rise of Roger Ailes-

How Roger Ailes Built the Fox News Fear Factory | Rolling Stone Politics

The key to decoding Fox News isn’t Bill O’Reilly or Sean Hannity. It isn’t even News Corp. chief Rupert Murdoch. To understand what drives Fox News, and what its true purpose is, you must first understand Chairman Ailes. “He is Fox News,” says Jane Hall, a decade-long Fox commentator who defected over Ailes’ embrace of the fear-mongering Glenn Beck. “It’s his vision. It’s a reflection of him.”

**robuzo** · 03-06-2011, 09:45 AM

^Good article.

**Humbert** · 03-06-2011, 10:28 AM

^^He is a skillful manipulator of American public opinion. Saddens me that so many buy his propaganda masquerading as journalism.

**robuzo** · 03-06-2011, 10:50 AM

"Rather than serving a journalistic, or even a propagandistic function, Fox News in effect acts as a “national social movement organization”- case made here Fox News as a Social Movement

**Butterfly** · 03-06-2011, 02:15 PM

more like a National Fascist movement,

**saxpression** · 06-06-2011, 03:23 AM

All of the news organizations have an agenda. All but Fox are on the political Left. The reason that Fox's ratings are so high is because there is no place else to go for a conservative perspective on TV. Thank goodness for good old-fashioned radio where free speech is still alive and political correctness is justly ridiculed, as it should be.

**Boon Mee** · 10-06-2011, 09:19 AM

Cable news ratings, June 8, 2011. That evil Fox News is beating the pants off the competition again!

**Butterfly** · 18-06-2011, 08:44 AM

^ I bet the WWF has better rating than Faux

**FlyFree** · 18-06-2011, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Cable news ratings, June 8, 2011. That evil Fox News is beating the pants off the competition again!

I don't think many will argue that the majority, everywhere, are pretty much leaning towards the moronic side. So popularity tends to be a double-edged sword....

**Humbert** · 18-06-2011, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Cable news ratings, June 8, 2011. That evil Fox News is beating the pants off the competition again!

So whats new? The American public is stupid. Do we need more proof?

trisailer · 29-06-2011, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Cable news ratings, June 8, 2011. That evil Fox News is beating the pants off the competition again!

So whats new? The American public is stupid. Do we need more proof?

No, we don't need more proof, but here's some anyway.

**Neo** · 25-09-2011, 12:55 AM

Go to main page USA Fox freaks after Ron Paul wins debate
Fox freaks after Ron Paul wins debate

Published: 23 September, 2011, 22:50
Edited: 23 September, 2011, 22:50

If you’ve noticed a lack of Ron Paul in the mainstream media’s coverage of the 2012 presidential race, it might not be an accident. After he placed first in a Fox News poll, the outlet has removed the results from their website without explanation.

Fox had launched an online poll to gauge readers’ opinions on last night’s Republican show-down and asked their audience, “Which GOP presidential candidate do you think won the Fox News/Google debate?”
At one point Paul placed in first, with 30 percent of the votes, but a reader of Infowars.com has pointed out that the poll has disappeared from the website, or has been shuffled to another page far from the front of Fox’s political coverage.

Logging onto the poll now produces an error in which the user is told “No content item selected.”

A screen shot of the poll produced by Infowars shows that Paul led with 24,8945 votes, with Mitt Romney trailing in second place with 22,656 votes, of 27 percent of the total. Rick Perry placed third with 15 percent of the votes, followed by Herman Cain with 9 percent.

Speaking from the stage during last night’s debate, Paul reminded the audience that he has been placing quite well in most surveys as of late. The mainstream media, however, continues to ignore him, despite pleasant polling.

When quizzed during last night’s debate from Orlando, Florida on whom he might consider as a running mate, Paul deterred the question and noted that he wouldn’t bother selecting anyone until he made it in the “top two.” In the meantime, Paul said, he was running in third in most national polls.

The mainstream media continues to overlook Paul, however, favoring Rick Perry and Mitt Romney as the frontrunners, and unexplainably offering more airtime to Michele Bachmann. Speaking to CNN yesterday, former presidential candidate and long-time activist Ralph Nader said he thought Paul was perhaps most appealing of the current GOP candidates.

“He wants to get out of these wars overseas, he wants to bring the soldiers back, he wants to cut the bloated military budget, he wants to change some of the anti-civil liberty provisions in the Patriot Act, he hates corporate welfare an all these bailouts of Wall Street crooks,” said Nader. “He ought to get more attention, instead of ten times more attention being given to Michele Bachmann.”

A USA Today/Gallup poll released on Tuesday put Paul as the number three candidate in the GOP race, receiving nearly three times the favor of Bachmann.

In New Hampshire, where the first primary of the 2012 race will take place this winter, Paul came in second place, between Mitt Romney in first and Jon Huntsman in second.

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**sabang** · 01-11-2011, 11:41 PM

According to the May Nielson ratings, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart beat the entire Fox News network in terms of total viewers. Stewart averaged 2.3 million viewers, while the Fox News prime time and day time line up averaged 1.85 million viewers.
While Stewart is on the rise, Fox News had a really, really bad May. Total viewership was down 10%, and Fox News lost viewers in the 25-54 demo in every prime time show. Bill O’Reilly was down 9%, Sean Hannity was down 6%, and Greta Van Susteren dropped 12%

Faux makes a lot of noise about how they are the top rated cable news channel- and they are. The Daily Show is also a cable TV program- shown on the Comedy Channel. It is not counted in the same Poll- but it kicks Faux butt.

Here's the problem, Roger:-

Jon Stewart is the biggest threat to Fox News’ future out there. He is literally teaching his audience, which is bigger than FNC’s, how to see through the partisan propaganda that Rupert Murdoch has based his network on. Stewart is educating an entire generation of viewers on how to watch cable news, or more specifically how not to watch Fox News.

Oh, Roger. One more thing:-

Unless Fox News can figure out a way to attract younger viewers, they are facing a future where their audience will eventually, literally, die off. A 2010 survey found that the average age of the Fox News viewer is 65 years old. Fox has the oldest audience on all of cable. (FNC’s audience is older than The History Channel, The Hallmark Channel, and The Golf Channel).

The average age of the Faux news viewer is 65.

I'm surprised Fox viewers live that long. Maybe they're all with VA.
I trust they don't charge too much for their advertising.

So really, when you look at a dedicated cable news network that is outsold in audience terms by a comedy show that takes the piss out of it, and who's average viewer age is 65, one has to ask the obvious question. Wot's all the fuss about?

Unwittingly, the biggest value of Fox may be indirectly educating the new generation of Americans (and others) to deal with the partisan, sponsored Spin that surrounds us. Thank you, Jon Stewart.

all quotes from- Daily Kos: Is Jon Stewart Destroying Fox News?

**Borey the Bald** · 02-11-2011, 12:18 AM

I have, for years, considered Fox News to be the evil twin of Comedy Central. It's good to see that Evil is losing.

**Hampsha** · 06-11-2011, 11:13 AM

More on Fox lies. It is the American Nazi channel.

**HansuMan** · 06-11-2011, 11:46 AM

I was a bit surprised by this revelation,

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