Thread: US Census 2010

Hmmm, just watched the WSJ Review, and Gigot notes that the govt wants to include all "residents" in the US, citizen or legal resident or not. WTF? How many extra seats could some states get from illegal immigrants or foreign students or even long-stay tourists?

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how shocking, FIX noise is inciting fear based on racial differences.

and of course the census should include all residents of the US....you've been bleating repeatedly about the 'illegal aliens' and the burden they put on the health care system....wouldn't it be prudent to know some actual statistics?


and btw jet, what's happening with the census in your country?

you know.....canada.

where you live.
where you were born.

canada.

Maybe there is an opportunity here to deport Dan Akroyd

Oh yah! ….Now the illegals are gonna want the gov't to know where they are.
Well it's not just the illegals. With the economy the way it is now, we are going to have MILLIONS of more homeless families by 2010 too. Those people will also be hard to keep track of.

Anyway... I think, the govt. just wants to know how many people are in your home, not how many are legal. Funding is determined by how many people are in a given area, legal or not.

Originally Posted by mooncake

Oh yah! ….Now the illegals are gonna want the gov't to know where they are.
Well it's not just the illegals. With the economy the way it is now, we are going to have MILLIONS of more homeless families by 2010 too. Those people will also be hard to keep track of.

Anyway... I think, the govt. just wants to know how many people are in your home, not how many are legal. Funding is determined by how many people are in a given area, legal or not.

I think Jet is alluding to congressional representation. The possibilty of rediscricting based upon population and the political ramifications therof.

^ That and the apportioning of the $. Heard it's $3 tril, not $3 bil. But, as the Senate is two per state, mebbe that evens it out? Still, states like CA that have lots if illegals and as many Dems will get more of everything. Wouldn't be bad if they knew how to govern and spend tax dollars.

To use them to increase the representatlive seats, or for redistricting, it’s not right.
Isn’t the US constitution says something about…“all citizens will be represented”?
Unless they want to amend the constitution to…“all those who are living/still breathing here.”

But again not counting them would be a clear case of ignoring the fact that they are even existed.
So I think…they still should be counted, but it should be a separate count from legal citizens. Beecause they aren't citizens, we don’t need anyone to represent them!

OR they need to start paying taxes and get in line like everyone else…for those goods and services!
Otherwise they should be counted and put on a plane. And for the record, not just the mexicans or latinos, but-ALL.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Gigot notes that the govt wants to include all "residents" in the US, citizen or legal resident or not. WTF?

Of course- don't you know what a Census is??

The count. Does this include the 'legal' colonial posessions as well? Puerto Rico, USVI, American Samoa, Guam, and the Marianas.....

^ Think so.
^^ Thought it was citizens, SB, not residents, who could include foreign students, illegal aliens, long-term vacationers.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Still, states like CA that have lots if illegals and as many Dems will get more of everything. Wouldn't be bad if they knew how to govern and spend tax dollars.

erm..... isn't the governor of CA a republican?

No Jettie, absolutely not. A Census is about who lives where and when- nothing to do with citizenship. It even includes people who are travelling at the time in question.

^You are right. I have filled out a few census surveys before and they wanted to know who was in the house at that time.

Originally Posted by pickel

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Still, states like CA that have lots if illegals and as many Dems will get more of everything. Wouldn't be bad if they knew how to govern and spend tax dollars.

erm..... isn't the governor of CA a republican?

Yep, and he is hamstrung by the leftie-liberal state senate and house. He has tried several programs to cut spending and Congress, backed by the govt unions, won't allow them.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Originally Posted by sabang

don't you know what a Census is??

Thought it was citizens, SB, not residents,

great thread!

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ That and the apportioning of the $. Heard it's $3 tril, not $3 bil. But, as the Senate is two per state, mebbe that evens it out? Still, states like CA that have lots if illegals and as many Dems will get more of everything. Wouldn't be bad if they knew how to govern and spend tax dollars.

Senate AND Congress, Census mandates about how many Representatives in the House a state gets.

The right refusing to participate is just shooting themselves in the foot ( when they aren't shooting other things )

- liberal states will have more reps , OK.

Fascinating article. I'll just cut n paste a few snippets, check out the linky if you're interested:-

• IN A swift and remarkable shift, African Americans no longer make up the majority of the population here in Washington DC
  
  In the decade since the last census, 27.3 million people were added to the US population, but only 9 per cent of them were non-Hispanic whites. Hispanics account for well over half of the population gain, and one in six Americans – fifty million people – is Hispanic. Asians, meanwhile, led all groups in population growth.
  
  The census reveals an absolute decline in the number of white young people over the first decade of this century, and a somewhat smaller decline in the number of black young people. Hispanic, Asian and multiracial children account for all of the net growth in the nation’s under-eighteen population.
  
  Economic progress, cultural ties and an emerging black middle class have driven greater numbers of younger African Americans to leave for prosperous southern metropolitan areas in states such as Georgia and Texas.
  
  Alongside this movement is a black flight from the inner city to the suburbs
  
  About nine million Americans now describe themselves as multiracial, 25 per cent more than in 2000.
  
  In the years ahead, the real divide may end up being along income levels. The nation’s poverty rate is climbing and one in three minority children live in poverty.

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Looks like the stereotypical black ghetto is becoming a thing of the past- metrosexual whitey is moving back downtown.

I think there is a fair way to go yet Sab no problems finding huge growing ethnic ghettos in the US.

As of 2011 there are now 11.2 MILLION ILLEGAL Immigrants in the US. Politicians want them for 2 very basic reasons.

• More Money
• More votes

It is a win...win situation for them in more than one way.

There are few countries that were created and forged by immigration. But at what point does it become overbearing to the society. There will always be a point where the system is pushed beyond its limitation.