The strongest economy in the world

**Zampan0** · 10-03-2012, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Where have you seen this graph before?

The Soviet Union.

I was going to go on. I did type a lot then deleted it. It all boils down to the 'game' being 'rigged'. I'll just let Max do the talking.

**OhOh** · 10-03-2012, 09:06 AM

^Have you noticed how white Max and Tracey are getting in their recent videos?

**Zampan0** · 10-03-2012, 09:20 AM

Here is the scary part of what is coming and coming soon. I'll post this and then shut up.

I know that most of you think that I have my tin foil hat on and am talking non sense, but you need to think again. You need to look at it from the perspective of TPTB and then -and only then- can you understand this is very real. There are only a very few at the top of the worlds financial food chain. I have read and believe to be true, that the Rothchild family alone control more than half of the worlds wealth. So let's look at it from the Rothchild's point of view.

Using the universal perspective of materialism and the financial control of the earths materials, we are on their land. Make no mistake, they believe this and have legitimate reason to believe it. They have scores of 'think tanks' working 24/7 to insure their wealth and the wealth of their posterity. We need to understand that this is only natural. Any normal family has concern for their children and their children's children. So, what does a normal family do when their familys future is in danger? A wise family would do whatever is necessary to avert this danger. The Rothchilds look at the near seven billion people on this planet not as people, but as a virus. We the virus, are poluting Their waters, Their air, Their land and that of Their children.

What does a normal family do to protect itself from danger? What do normal people do to a dangerous virus? So, when we look at it from Their point of view it begins to make sense and We, have a very large problem.

I am only puting this out as a warning. I am not trying to say we are finished. All I am saying is that we need to be aware of what it is that They are trying to do to Us. By being aware there are many things we can do to protect Our loved one's. You are intelligent folks and you know -or you need to find out quick- what you need to do. And, what needs to be done can be done without a lot of money. Good luck and may God bless and protect us all.

**Zampan0** · 10-03-2012, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

^Have you noticed how white Max and Tracey are getting in their recent videos?

I took a look at a couple of their older than newer vids and I really don't see much difference. I love these two and sure hope that their 0k. I highly doubt the Rothchilds are hoping the best for them.

**sabang** · 10-03-2012, 10:09 AM

^^ When I think about Agent Orange, depleted Uranium munitions, nukes etc, and the Pentagon (the worlds largest polluting organisation, conveniently not subject to any Kyoto accords or reporting requirements) I am left with one question.

Can I borrow your tin hat?

**Zampan0** · 10-03-2012, 02:06 PM

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**Boon Mee** · 19-03-2012, 08:49 AM

She was born under Hitler, raised under the USSR's sovereignty in East Germany, and came to America as a young adult. LISTEN to her. Hopey Change doesn’t work...

**Boon Mee** · 31-03-2012, 09:41 AM

The US now has the world's highest corporate tax rate. Another B. Hussien Obama accomplishment:

"This April Fool’s Day, the joke is on all of us. That’s because as of April 1, the U.S. now has the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world.
Our high corporate tax rate has long made the U.S. an uncompetitive place for new investment. This has driven new jobs to other, more competitive nations and meant fewer jobs and lower wages for all Americans.
Other developed nations have been cutting their rates for over 20 years. The U.S. did nothing.
The U.S. was at least able to stay out of the top spot until now, because Japan had also failed to get its corporate tax rate in line with other more competitive nations. But Japan has finally seen the light and reduced its rate as of April 1.
Japan’s rate was 39.5 percent. That was just barely ahead of the U.S. rate of 39.2 percent (this includes the 35 percent federal rate plus the average rate the states add on). Japan’s rate now stands at 36.8 percent after its recent cut."

U.S. Now Has Highest Corporate Tax Rate in the World

Committing suicide or what?

**OhOh** · 31-03-2012, 11:42 PM

Along with a reported multi trillion dollar health care headache. Probably the largest in the world, another record?

Massive $17 Trillion Hole Found In Obamacare | ZeroHedge

"Two years ago, when introducing then promptly enacting Obamacare, the president stated that healthcare law reform would not cost a penny over $1 trillion ($900 billion to be precise), and that it would not add ‘one dime’ to the debt. It appears that this estimate may have been slightly optimistic… by a factor of 1700%. Because coincident with the recent Supreme Court debacle, in which a constitutional law president may be about to find that his magnum opus law is, in fact, unconstitutional, someone actually read the whole thing cover to cover, instead of merely relying on the CBO’s, pardon Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs’, funding estimates. That someone is Republican Jeff Sessions who after actually running the numbers has uncovered that the true long-term funding gap is a mind-boggling $17 trillion, just a tad more than the original sub $1 trillion forecast. This latest revelation means that total underfunded US welfare liabilities: Medicare, Medicaid and social security now amount to $99 trillion! Add to this total US debt which in 2 months will be $16 trillion, and one can see why Japan, which is about to breach 1 quadrillion in total debt (yen, but who's counting), may want to start looking in the rearview mirror for up and comer competitors."

Continues....

**bsnub** · 01-04-2012, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The US now has the world's highest corporate tax rate. Another B. Hussien Obama accomplishment:

"This April Fool’s Day, the joke is on all of us. That’s because as of April 1, the U.S. now has the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world.
Our high corporate tax rate has long made the U.S. an uncompetitive place for new investment. This has driven new jobs to other, more competitive nations and meant fewer jobs and lower wages for all Americans.
Other developed nations have been cutting their rates for over 20 years. The U.S. did nothing.
The U.S. was at least able to stay out of the top spot until now, because Japan had also failed to get its corporate tax rate in line with other more competitive nations. But Japan has finally seen the light and reduced its rate as of April 1.
Japan’s rate was 39.5 percent. That was just barely ahead of the U.S. rate of 39.2 percent (this includes the 35 percent federal rate plus the average rate the states add on). Japan’s rate now stands at 36.8 percent after its recent cut."

U.S. Now Has Highest Corporate Tax Rate in the World

Committing suicide or what?

Once again quoting garbage sources like the heritage foundation. The fact is that no Corporation actually pays 39% as the all have bucket loads of exemptions, writeoffs, rebates and cuts that lower the taxes they pay to next to nothing. It would be nice of they did actually pay 39% or maybe even 15% as we need the revenue.

**Boon Mee** · 07-04-2012, 06:57 AM

Obama’s Budget Plan: $73,000 Debt Per American By 2022…

And this guy has the balls to call Ryan’s budget “radical?
What a total socialist asshole he is...

Source

**sabang** · 07-04-2012, 10:53 AM

The average rate a US corporation actually pays on it's earnings is slightly below 15%, which is very low- HK for example, a recognised 'low tax' jurisdiction, has a tax rate of 15%.

The deliberately misleading Heritage Foundation study does however point to a considerable issue- being the utterly ridiculous, byzantine complexity of the US tax code. Mirrored by most other western nations too. It urgently needs reform, which is probably why nobody is doing anything about it. Incidentally, were real efforts made to reform and simplify the US taxation code, you can bet the Heritage Foundation would be amongst the first to jump on the 'anti' bandwagon. The truth is, Big Business is very happy with the current state of tax affairs in the US, and the gaping loopholes it allows them. Just watch them and their hired pigs squeal when a flat tax rate is proposed, if you don't believe me.

**barbaro** · 07-04-2012, 09:29 PM

Lots of good info on this thread. Here is another downgrade by one company. The article notes that debt will continue to rise.

Credit rating agency Egan Jones downgraded the United States Thursday on concern over the sustainability of public debt. Egan Jones is one of the most important ratings firms in the world; they lowered our credit level from AA+ to AA. The firm reduced America from AAA to AA+ in July 2011, just before Standard & Poor's did the same.

Another Credit Agency Downgrades US

**Boon Mee** · 16-04-2012, 04:09 PM

In the year 2525
If man is still alive
If woman should survive
They’ll only be twelve months away from paying off Obama’s 2011 budget deficit…

Heh...what's a mere 514 years among friends?

Source

**Storekeeper** · 17-04-2012, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

This has driven new jobs to other, more competitive nations and meant fewer jobs and lower wages for all Americans.

Pure speculation ... as opposed to the old jobs lost to overseas workers and rightly attributed to Republican policies.

**sabang** · 20-04-2012, 08:09 AM

Facts are it was the GOP administrations that have consecutively and disastrously added to the Federal debt since Reagan, and the Bush admin that ushered in the crushing financial crisis. These are facts, established. The federal deficit and debt was reduced under Clinton, that is impossible under Obama because of the financial crisis he inherited- and not helped by concerted GOP opposition to HC reform, a much needed Federal Deficit reduction initiative.

The current GOP are incapable of running a corner shop, plain and simple.

**barbaro** · 20-04-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

Facts are it was the GOP administrations that have consecutively and disastrously added to the Federal debt since Reagan, and the Bush admin that ushered in the crushing financial crisis. These are facts, established. The federal deficit and debt was reduced under Clinton, that is impossible under Obama because of the financial crisis he inherited- and not helped by concerted GOP opposition to HC reform, a much needed Federal Deficit reduction initiative.

True.

And the point that sabang is pointing out is: those that are finger pointing at particular parties or administrations are missing the boat, once again.

It is the entire US government that has led us to where we are. It started several decades ago, and it continued with administration after administration.

**Boon Mee** · 20-04-2012, 02:22 PM

$5 trillion in new debt. Obama can't run on his record:

Poverty, unemployment = Change You Can Believe In!

...it's all Bush's fault of course

**robuzo** · 20-04-2012, 02:26 PM

I don't think Obama is helping things by signing another free trade agreement, which apparently went unnoticed because. . .look, hookers in bikinis!

**barbaro** · 22-04-2012, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

This has driven new jobs to other, more competitive nations and meant fewer jobs and lower wages for all Americans.

Pure speculation ... as opposed to the old jobs lost to overseas workers and rightly attributed to Republican policies.

Both parties and the US gov have promoted businesses leaving the USA.

USAID, among them. Pretty disgusting.

USAID training foreign workers for English-speaking jobs
Published: 10:53 PM 04/20/2012

By Caroline May

While the president has been urging “insourcing,” the government has been sending money to the Philippines to train foreign workers for jobs in English-speaking call centers.

According to New York Democratic Rep. Tim Bishop and North Carolina Republican Rep. Walter Jones, this is unacceptable and “shocking.”

The pair are calling on the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) to immediately suspend what is known as the Job Enabling English Proficiency (JEEP) program.

According to Jones’ office, in 2010, after the two men compelled USAID to end a similar training program in Sri Lanka, the agency assured the congressmen that they would “conduct a review to ensure the project will not take any jobs away from Americans.”

In a letter to the USAID administrator, Rajiv Shah, Bishop and Jones expressed their displeasure at learning of the effort they thought the agency had explicitly promised against.

“I believe it was reasonable to conclude from that statement that your agency’s outsourcing training program was terminated, particularly in light of President Obama’s ‘insourcing’ initiative announced earlier this year,” the pair wrote. “Therefore, I was shocked to learn that USAID has used taxpayer dollars to invest in outsourcing training programs in the Philippines at the expense of American workers.”.

Read more: USAID | Training Foreign Workers | English-Speaking Jobs | The Daily Caller

**barbaro** · 23-04-2012, 07:00 AM

We've been hearing in the mainstream media that the job market is improving. Really? Yes, it depends on one's skills, training, and experience, but recent grads facing unemployment and underemployment. The MSM missed it again.

1 in 2 new graduates are jobless or underemployed
By HOPE YEN | Associated Press –

WASHINGTON (AP) — The college class of 2012 is in for a rude welcome to the world of work.

A weak labor market already has left half of young college graduates either jobless or underemployed in positions that don't fully use their skills and knowledge.

Young adults with bachelor's degrees are increasingly scraping by in lower-wage jobs — waiter or waitress, bartender, retail clerk or receptionist, for example — and that's confounding their hopes a degree would pay off despite higher tuition and mounting student loans.

An analysis of government data conducted for The Associated Press lays bare the highly uneven prospects for holders of bachelor's degrees.
Opportunities for college graduates vary widely.

While there's strong demand in science, education and health fields, arts and humanities flounder. Median wages for those with bachelor's degrees are down from 2000, hit by technological changes that are eliminating midlevel jobs such as bank tellers. Most future job openings are projected to be in lower-skilled positions such as home health aides, who can provide personalized attention as the U.S. population ages.

Taking underemployment into consideration, the job prospects for bachelor's degree holders fell last year to the lowest level in more than a decade.

1 in 2 new graduates are jobless or underemployed - Yahoo! News

**barbaro** · 27-04-2012, 05:09 PM

These numbers are bad. Ugly. This reinforces my opinion that a recovery will not be happening.

Drop in U.S. Durables Orders Masks Investment Gain: Economy
By Timothy R. Homan - Apr 26, 2012

Orders for U.S. durable goods fell in March by the most in three years, depressed by a pullback in demand for aircraft that masked gains in business investment.

Bookings for goods meant to last at least three years dropped 4.2 percent, more than forecast and the biggest decrease since January 2009, Commerce Department data showed today in Washington

Entire: Drop in U.S. Durables Orders Masks Investment Gain: Economy - Bloomberg

**Minnie Maugham** · 27-04-2012, 06:36 PM

^ Txs for info, BB. I'd also like to hear first-hand from small biz folks.

**barbaro** · 27-04-2012, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

^ Txs for info, BB. I'd also like to hear first-hand from small biz folks.

All I can say is that in my hometown, what few businesses are left hare shutting down, turning off the light, and shutting the doors, and locking them.

What kind of businesses?

You name it: lumber, electronics, furniture, car dealership, hard ware stores, etc.

And small businesses have less time to lose profits.

Lot of the big businesses have already closed. The small ones starting closing first, and continue to do so, as well as the big boys.

**OhOh** · 28-04-2012, 12:07 AM

says it all really

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