President Obama News Thread

[robuzo]

James Fallows absolutely destroys Ferguson and his lying BS about Obama in Newsweek here:
As a Harvard Alum, I Apologize - James Fallows - The Atlantic
A tenured professor of history at my undergraduate alma mater has written a cover story for Daily Beast/Newsweek that is so careless and unconvincing that I wonder how he will presume to sit in judgment of the next set of student papers he has to grade. It's by the irrepressible Niall Ferguson, it is headlined "Obama's Gotta Go," and its case rests on logic of this sort:

Certainly, the stock market is well up (by 74 percent) relative to the close on Inauguration Day 2009. But the total number of private-sector jobs is still 4.3 million below the January 2008 peak.
Hmmm, what might possibly be the flaw in this comparison? Apart from the fact that Obama did not take office until January 2009 and that private sector jobs have recovered better in his first three-plus years than they did under George W. Bush.
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Lots more at the link.

[Boon Mee]

In further news re Obama, let's check out

Book Says Obama Deferred to Valerie Jarrett Over Whether To Go After bin Laden: ‘Obama feared taking responsibility.’

Love how this stuff is coming out well before the November election so folks can see what they wrought voting for this imbecile last time.

[slackula]

The SpecOp boys are fighting back, obama. IOW, you leaked military info for your political gain.

This line of argument has no bearing in logic.

Let's say you are right: Obama deserves no credit, praise, or accolades because he didn't personally lead the mission. He wasn't there, on the ground, putting himself in harm's way.
After all, that's why Bin Laden is credited and condemned for his acts, right? Because he personally lead them and was there, in harm's way?

If this had gone tits up and ended with a healthy and hale Bin Laden executing a sailor on Pakistani TV while small children played in the wreckage of the most top secret weaponry, I'm quite sure that the GOP would have blamed the SEALS themselves, and given Obama a pass...

If this is the counter to "you didn't build that" then good luck with that because it seems like really weak sauce.

"At the end of the day, make no mistake about it, it was the president of the United States that shouldered the burden of this operation, that made the hard decision."
- Adm. Bill McRaven, head of the U.S. Special Operations command

I think I'll take Adm McRavens' word over your you-tube videos.

[Minnie Maugham]

^ McRaven is still serving and obama is his CIC. He has no choice but to applaud him.

[Boon Mee]

^^
There was built-in deniability surrounding OBL's take-down. If things had gone tits-up, some General would have taken the fall.

[Minnie Maugham]

^^
There was built-in deniability surrounding OBL's take-down. If things had gone tits-up, some General would have taken the fall.

Yep. And I loved Clinton in the ad saying it woulda been shit for "him" obama if the mission failed. Not for the Seals. FO.

[Norton]

And I loved Clinton in the ad saying it woulda been shit for "him" obama if the mission failed. Not for the Seals.

Wild speculation on Bill's part based on shit storm following Operation Eagle Claw.

[sabang]

Pres Obama was present and CIC in the command room as the operation actually happened, ie in real time. Get used to it- democrat president Obama bagged Osama bin Laden, dubya didn't. Dubya just talked about it, plenty- but Obama achieved it. It was a pretty ballsy decision actually- thank goodness for him that it worked, because it was a risky and diplomatically provocative operation.

You can just imagine the braying if it hadn't, and the endless comparisons with Jimmuh- who was not so lucky, or as ably assisted by his operatives. That was a gutsy decision too actually, but of course ballsy decisions that don't work out are classified as foolhardy. In comparison I would certainly not describe Bush' invasion of an already mostly disarmed country with an overwhelming military force, and accompanied by a massive aerial bombardment, gutsy at all. Quite the opposite.

[Minnie Maugham]

Pres Obama was present and CIC in the command room as the operation actually happened, ie in real time. Get used to it- democrat president Obama bagged Osama bin Laden, dubya didn't.

^ With the intel built up over the yrs by Bush-led ops? If this is untrue, then you must agree that 9-11 was Clinton's fault.

[Boon Mee]

It was a pretty ballsy decision actually-

The only 'balls' involved was finally standing up to Valery Jarrett. Read how the whole thing took several months to finally take place...

[raycarey]

democrat president Obama bagged Osama bin Laden, dubya didn't. Dubya just talked about it, plenty- but Obama achieved it. It was a pretty ballsy decision actually- thank goodness for him that it worked, because it was a risky and diplomatically provocative operation.

extremely risky politically as well.

and for some on here to claim that they (and others on the right) wouldn't have blamed president obama if the mission had failed is utter nonsense. actually, let's be frank---they're lying.

[slackula]

Read how the whole thing took several months to finally take place...

I thought the talking point was that it was a horrible violation of Pakistan's sovereignty? Now the talking point is that it should have happened sooner?

[alitongkat]

Read how the whole thing took several months to finally take place...

I thought the talking point was that it was a horrible violation of Pakistan's sovereignty? Now the talking point is that it should have happened sooner?

as bin laden was sought for violation of americas sovereignty, it should be fine...

[Boon Mee]

^
Please, please don't do that again. I 'bout tossed my lunch all over this keyboard!

Let's get back to the culture of corruption that is the Obama Administration shall we?

Labor Department spends stimulus funds for ads during Olbermann, Maddow shows.

"The Labor Department paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal stimulus funds to a public relations firm to run more than 100 commercials touting the Obama administration’s “green training” job efforts on two MSNBC cable shows, records show."


Labor Department spends stimulus funds for ads during Olbermann, Maddow shows - Washington Times

So, in other words, my hard-earned tax dollars paid for Obama ads, eh? Imagine the outrage from the Liberal Press if this had happened with a Republican in office?

[Boon Mee]

Heh...seems not every movie coming out of Hollywood eulogizes Obama. This in from The Hollywood Reporter of all places:

Box Office Report: Anti-Obama Doc Drawing Big Crowds, Even in New York City.

He's lost his mojo folks and all the kings horses and all the kings men won't be able to put him back together again before November.

[slackula]

So, in other words, my hard-earned tax dollars paid for Obama ads, eh? Imagine the outrage from the Liberal Press if this had happened with a Republican in office?

So, let's get this straight, the department of labor pays to advertise job training programs and that's "Obama ads"? Because making sure people know these programs are available is socialism or something....right?

What a waste, there should have just been more tax cuts to the rich and welfare handouts to corporations because that's what stimulates an economy, right?





You sound tired BM, if you have to resort to quoting from the Moonies paper you might want to rest up a bit..

[Boon Mee]

What a waste, there should have just been more tax cuts to the rich and welfare handouts to corporations because that's what stimulates an economy, right?

Indeed it was a waste. How many jobs were created thru the stimilus, eh? And, btw, this is the same MSDNC who is still 49% owned by GE. The same GE who hasn’t payed any taxes the past two years. The same GE, whose CEO is one of Obama’s economic advisers. A little unethical conflict of interest here or what? But then, Obama and his thugs haven't got one ethical bone in their bodies...

[Flight19]

democrat president Obama bagged Osama bin Laden, dubya didn't. Dubya just talked about it, plenty- but Obama achieved it. It was a pretty ballsy decision actually- thank goodness for him that it worked, because it was a risky and diplomatically provocative operation.

extremely risky politically as well.

and for some on here to claim that they (and others on the right) wouldn't have blamed president obama if the mission had failed is utter nonsense. actually, let's be frank---they're lying.

Actually there is a famous video of Bush declaring that he didn't care about OBL at all. This of course after stories came out essentially blaming him for several missed opportunities to nab him.

I'm not surprised there is a "book" out now citing "unnamed sources" dismissing Obama's effort in nailing him.

It's probably the only real redneck vote-winner that Obama has got. Should get a few of them pesky NRA "we hate muslim" votes.

[slackula]

How many jobs were created thru the stimilus, eh?

A large portion of the stimulus was tax cuts. If you are saying that that didn't create jobs you are arguing against a fundamental orthodoxy of GOP policy dating back 30 years...

[alitongkat]

according to a german poll...

80 % believe obama will be reelected, and
86 % of the germans would vote obama for president, if they could

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[Boon Mee]

We knew he had it in him!

Barack Obama’s Dan Quayle Moment.

“President Barack Obama finally found the 57th state, and it’s spelled O-I-H-O.”

Then, get this, the WaPo says it’s a photoshop, then retracts.

No Lamestream Media bias of course...

And, here's an eye-opener: Fool Me Twice: Obama’s Shocking Plans for the Next Four Years Exposed.

I'm afraid to read it!

[Boon Mee]

Ready for another nail in Obama's coffin? At least with military families?

Obama Honored Fallen SEALs By Sending Their Parents a Form Letter Signed By Electric Pen

On August 6, 2011, 30 US service members were killed when a CH-47 Chinook helicopter they were being transported in crashed in Wardak province, Afghanistan. It was the deadliest single loss for U.S. forces in the decade-long war in Afghanistan. 17 members of the elite Navy SEALs were killed in the crash.


Yesterday, Karen and Billy Vaughn, parents of Aaron Carson Vaughn, spoke at the Defending the Defenders forum sponsored by the Tea Party Patriots outside the RNC Convention in Tampa. Karen brought a copy of the form letter they were sent following their son’s death.





It’s a form letter

After the deadliest single loss of US forces in Afghanistan, Barack Obama sent out form letters to the parents.

The. Bro. Gotta. Go.

Can the arrogance and insults grow any more? Perhaps Obama feels slighted because a former SEAL Team Six Member Launches anti-Obama PAC

Former SEAL Team Six Member Launches anti-Obama PAC - Kate Hicks

Good on 'em!

[sabang]

according to a german poll...

Or an Aussie-

IF AUSTRALIANS could vote in the United States presidential election, they would choose Barack Obama over Mitt Romney by a margin of 14 to one, a poll shows.
Indeed, Australians prefer the US President by so overwhelming a margin that it would be a bigger landslide than any in the history of the US.
An online poll of 1000 Australians by UMR Research found 72 per cent would vote for the Democrats' Mr Obama, and just 5 per cent for the Republicans' Mr Romney. The biggest share of the popular vote won by any president since the creation of the current voting system was Lyndon Johnson's 61.1 per cent in 1964.


Read more: Australian voters would deliver Obama landslide victory

[Cujo]

according to a german poll...

Or an Aussie-

IF AUSTRALIANS could vote in the United States presidential election, they would choose Barack Obama over Mitt Romney by a margin of 14 to one, a poll shows.
Indeed, Australians prefer the US President by so overwhelming a margin that it would be a bigger landslide than any in the history of the US.
An online poll of 1000 Australians by UMR Research found 72 per cent would vote for the Democrats' Mr Obama, and just 5 per cent for the Republicans' Mr Romney. The biggest share of the popular vote won by any president since the creation of the current voting system was Lyndon Johnson's 61.1 per cent in 1964.


Read more: Australian voters would deliver Obama landslide victory

I find it very sad that anyone would consider conducting such a poll.

[Minnie Maugham]

Ready for another nail in Obama's coffin? At least with military families?

Obama Honored Fallen SEALs By Sending Their Parents a Form Letter Signed By Electric Pen

No respect. And is that his girley signature? Shows how special he thinks he is. I did frivolous cursive letters like that when I was 12 yrs old.

according to a german poll...

Or an Aussie-

IF AUSTRALIANS could vote in the United States presidential election...bla blah

I find it very sad that anyone would consider conducting such a poll.

I'm with ya. What'd be the response if they asked Americans about Ozzie elections? Oh ya, the Yanks would say "who cares"