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    Seems Mayor Goodman has pissed off many of his constituents-

    Residents and community leaders upset by Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman’s angry statements about President Barack Obama said they would welcome Obama to the city, even if Goodman won’t.

    At a news conference today at City Hall Katherine Duncan, president of the Las Vegas Ward Five Chamber of Commerce, Assemblyman Harvey Munford, D-Las Vegas, and several residents said Goodman overreacted to Obama’s statement Tuesday in New Hampshire warning people not to “blow cash in Vegas when you’re trying to save for college.”

    Shortly after Obama’s speech Goodman and many other Nevada politicians immediately criticized Obama, saying he shouldn’t discourage Las Vegas visitation, especially when the Nevada economy is in shambles.

    Goodman went so far as to say he wouldn’t welcome Obama during a presidential visit planned around Feb. 18. “We want to offer an open invitation to our president,” Duncan said. “We want to offer our sincere apologies on behalf of our mayor.”

    Some community leaders say Goodman overreacted to Obama's latest Las Vegas comment - Breaking News - ReviewJournal.com

    not to “blow cash in Vegas when you’re trying to save for college.”
    This is controversial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    not to “blow cash in Vegas when you’re trying to save for college.”
    This is controversial?
    It's downright un-American and reeks of socialism.

    I used to go to Interop LV for eight years straight and it is heartening to see pensioners cashing in their pension checks for another round at the pokies and gorging themselves on the eat-all-you-can-for-1dollar99cents buffet

    Freedom of choice, as the US is a democracy and guarantees the right to ruin your life without intervention or regulation from the left-wing loonies in Washington.

    Criticising this is as good as slapping the founding fathers in the face

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
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    What does Las Vegas contribute to the countries economy, except to attract a few overseas tourists.
    You should stick to stuff you know about. Knitting, perhaps?
    Vegas is a great spot for conventions besides wk-end getaways for Americans and lots of Canucks. Sure, gambling is key, but many go for the shows, the fab buffets, the glitter and excitement. Obama shot himself -- and the Dems -- in the foot yet again by denigrating the city yet again. Keep him hooked up to the teleprompter. He's getting as bad as Biden for gaffes.
    Here goes Jet opening with a personal attack once again.

    Anyone with half a brain knows only too well that Las Vegas is one of the great gambling capitals of the world. The cities foundations are built on gambling. The place is a great plastic monument to greed and the weakness of human nature. A city built by the Mafia. BTW Jet, I been there.

    And when Obama said "you dont go and blow a bundle in Vegas when you are saving for college", anyone with half a brain would know he didnt mean just going to a convention or a show. Las Vegas is a good-time party town rife with gambling and prostitution. But unfortunately for Mayor Goodman, the good times are over for now. Trying to blame Obamas quite truthful analogy for the cities recent demise is a sign of a desperate man clutching at straws, --- a desperate Republican man no doubt.

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    So, all my comments regarding the health reforms removed... why? Because I said more Americans will die, younger and poorer, am I not allowed to comment? Is it ok for me to call Bambam a nigger half breed libbie donkey then? It's ok to disagree with Obama, but not with those that disagree with him or denigrate his status and goals into moronic playground one liners..? Issues..? Yeah like fuck..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife View Post
    So, all my comments regarding the health reforms removed... why? Because I said more Americans will die, younger and poorer, am I not allowed to comment? Is it ok for me to call Bambam a nigger half breed libbie donkey then? It's ok to disagree with Obama, but not with those that disagree with him or denigrate his status and goals into moronic playground one liners..? Issues..? Yeah like fuck..
    My tongue-in-cheek reply to you was deleted, too. Weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    unfortunately for Mayor Goodman, the good times are over for now. Trying to blame Obamas quite truthful analogy for the cities recent demise is a sign of a desperate man clutching at straws, --- a desperate Republican man no doubt.
    Who would have guessed Las Vegas would turn out to be a house of cards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    unfortunately for Mayor Goodman, the good times are over for now. Trying to blame Obamas quite truthful analogy for the cities recent demise is a sign of a desperate man clutching at straws, --- a desperate Republican man no doubt.
    Who would have guessed Las Vegas would turn out to be a house of cards?
    A house built upon the sand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    unfortunately for Mayor Goodman, the good times are over for now. Trying to blame Obamas quite truthful analogy for the cities recent demise is a sign of a desperate man clutching at straws, --- a desperate Republican man no doubt.
    Who would have guessed Las Vegas would turn out to be a house of cards?
    A house built upon the sand?
    A Mirage..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife View Post
    So, all my comments regarding the health reforms removed... why? Because I said more Americans will die, younger and poorer, am I not allowed to comment? Is it ok for me to call Bambam a nigger half breed libbie donkey then? It's ok to disagree with Obama, but not with those that disagree with him or denigrate his status and goals into moronic playground one liners..? Issues..? Yeah like fuck..
    Arrr.. dead Americans due to a fucked up medical system not a popular subject, especially if you run up against a Yank mod. The nigger , half breed stuff is probably OK though since its in keeping with the Republican line.

    This board is getting worse with its political moderation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife View Post
    So, all my comments regarding the health reforms removed... why? Because I said more Americans will die, younger and poorer, am I not allowed to comment? Is it ok for me to call Bambam a nigger half breed libbie donkey then? It's ok to disagree with Obama, but not with those that disagree with him or denigrate his status and goals into moronic playground one liners..? Issues..? Yeah like fuck..
    Arrr.. dead Americans due to a fucked up medical system not a popular subject, especially if you run up against a Yank mod. The nigger , half breed stuff is probably OK though since its in keeping with the Republican line.

    This board is getting worse with its political moderation.
    I saw the comments that Rob made and they were pretty fucking stupid, certainly worthy of being binned, but you're right -- something's rotten in the state of Issues moderation at times.

    The point is one of consistency, there doesn't appear to be any. Often the "nigger" type comments are left to stand and personally I don't see how they're different from what Rob posted. Certainly no better or worse so if one goes and the other stands what's up with that.

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    I know it's a (bad) joke isn't it, the usual suspects are here trying to outdo each other with banal insults day in day out, I post a few replies regarding the healthcare issue, albeit in a satirical manner, and they get deleted, along with some very poignant replies, Why? How was it any more offensive? It was certainly more thought provoking.

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    It's not the first thread where Rob has taken gleeful delight in wishing that Americans would die. He made another comment along the same lines in the Toyotya thread. Politics and free speech aside, that was just plain offensive. Keep it in MPK if you want to wish people harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    It's not the first thread where Rob has taken gleeful delight in wishing that Americans would die. He made another comment along the same lines in the Toyotya thread. Politics and free speech aside, that was just plain offensive. Keep it in MPK if you want to wish people harm.
    I guess you dont understand satire. Americans are so thin skinned sometimes.
    But I guess thats the least of their problems now. Nothing a bullet in the back of the head wouldn't fix. Lighten up you dickheads. You blokes dont have exclusive rights on all that is right in the world just because of Fox news.
    That's always the go-to line when you have to back pedal. I have lived a long time and know perfectly well the difference between satire and garbage. There was not an ounce of satire in his comment. Panama Hat's comments were satire, Robs were clumsy and mean spirited.

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    ^I'm not sure about that, I took the offending post to be an attempt at a modest proposal, maybe not too Swift, but in that spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    It's not the first thread where Rob has taken gleeful delight in wishing that Americans would die. He made another comment along the same lines in the Toyotya thread. Politics and free speech aside, that was just plain offensive. Keep it in MPK if you want to wish people harm.
    As you said yourself Humbert, satire, to make my point. You may have found it offensive, but look at many of the posts here by BM, JG, Dotcom, can you take them serioulsy? Are they not satirical, intentionally or not? As with comments on many other parts of the forum, it's ok for comments that wish for less blacks, less mussies, less libbies, less jews, etc to make the world a better place, but to think that less Americans would help or to even say it!?? Holy fuckshakes!!!

    There are many Americans I admire, the ideas and values they have given to the world are monumental, but that's too rational, too undefined for the partisan crowd in Issues, you're either for 'em or you're against 'em, well in the balance of things, if it gets my point across, just as derogatory racial/political comments in place of honest debate or meaningful criticism are offensive to me, what's a few dead Americans matter..? It certainly doesn't seem to matter to those that feel Healthcare reform is the road to America's ruin, and they're American, or at least claim to be..

    Issues is a bit of a joke and so is the moderation, it's a bearpit, a place to let off steam, there are some serious points made, but you have to pick through a lot of trash to find them. Capiche!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    It's not the first thread where Rob has taken gleeful delight in wishing that Americans would die. He made another comment along the same lines in the Toyotya thread. Politics and free speech aside, that was just plain offensive. Keep it in MPK if you want to wish people harm.
    As you said yourself Humbert, satire, to make my point. You may have found it offensive, but look at many of the posts here by BM, JG, Dotcom, can you take them serioulsy? Are they not satirical, intentionally or not?

    There are many Americans I admire, the ideas and values they have given to the world are monumental, but that's too rational, too undefined for the partisan crowd in Issues, you're either for 'em or you're against 'em, well in the balance of things, if it gets my point across, just as racial/political comments are offensive to me, what's a few dead Americans matter..? It certainly doesn't seem to matter to those that feel Healthcare reform is the road to America's ruin, and they're American, or at least claim to be..

    Issues is a bit of a joke and so is the moderation, it's a bearpit, a place to let off steam, there are some serious points made, but you have to pick through a lot of trash to find them. Capiche!?
    Capiche. The matter is over as far as I'm concerned and I appreciate your comments. FYI, I pass on Dot Com's posts because he is beyond redemption. Unlike some, I do not feel he is a satirist. I think he is for real.

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    Like this, right Rob? Laughed my ass off when I first read this, not naming names but it sounds like something that could have been written by a certain poster here (if he were capable of stringing two grammatical sentences together):
    Like Hell I'm Going To Let Some Black President Help Me Pay For Dialysis | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

    I take pride in who I am. Always have, always will. I've worked hard my whole life and have never taken anyone's charity, and I'm not about to start now, no matter what. I'm telling you, there's no way I'm going to sit back and let some black president of the United States try to devise a structure to help me pay for the dialysis treatment I so desperately need to survive.

    Not over my dead body.

    Just who does this Afro-American occupant of the highest office in the land think he is, anyway? Look, I've got nothing against black people, but some of them act like the whole world owes them something. For example, important government subsidies on my dialysis.

    You know, I don't recall asking for some black commander in chief to embrace protections that would prohibit insurance companies from dropping my coverage on a whim and operating as if my continued existence on earth were nothing more than a strategic liability. Plus, if I go along with this progressive health-benefits scheme, he'll probably hold it over my head every time I receive vital care with the aid of the government to which I already pay taxes.

    Sorry. I've got too much self-respect for that.

    Obama needs to know that there's still one American willing to watch his body drown in its own deadly internal toxins rather than have long-overdue reform crammed down his throat.

    Fact is, nobody wants some too-big-for-his-britches black president butting in to suggest that everyone, including me, needs to be treated with dignity. Yet this Obama thinks he can just waltz in and and tinker with a health care system that destroys people like myself every single day.

    Can you imagine what'd it be like if he weren't just half black?

    Seriously, when Obama's done drumming up support for legislation that might allow me to see my daughter graduate from college and prevent me from dying before my 50th birthday, what's next on the agenda? Will he try to keep my life's savings from evaporating in a stock market that operates free of serious governmental oversight? Is there any aspect of capitalism run amok that this guy won't tamper with? Really, Obama, thanks but no thanks. The last person I need help from is some black leader of the federal government in a position to perhaps improve my quality of life.

    The worst part is that I'll have to put up with this guy being a black president for at least three more years. I guess all I can do is try to hold out for the 2012 election. Maybe then we'll get a white president back in office. Maybe he'll have the common decency to let me suffer in peace.
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    ^^ Fine, and I apologise if I offended you, you'll have to try and get used to me...

    As for Dotcom, perhap he is actually a multinic of another member here, created just to support their own insipid agenda, it really is that sad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    Is there any aspect of capitalism run amok that this guy won't tamper with? Really, Obama, thanks but no thanks.
    Darkly funny and well written.

    Just change the context of presentation and the usual suspects here would gladly rally to it, Boon would be most likely to pick it up as further evidence of the righteous cause, as he never looks at background or links properly, and the rest of the pack would just run with it.

    It's just lost on them, they're here because no-one else would bother listening to their crap and I just pop in now and then to laugh at them. (and read Sabang's posts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Capiche. The matter is over as far as I'm concerned and I appreciate your comments
    I like this attitude. Good man, Humbert . . . even if you are a Communist, Stalinist, probably black and definitely Jewish as well as an anti-Christ ObamaBambam follower.

    Watch Fox and open your eyes to the truth. It will set you free.


    By the way, have you heard that the head nig-nog in the black house hates America . . . FACT!





    (Yes, dotcom is clearly a multi-nic by some some knuckledragger here. Umm, I mean by some patriotic, God-fearing patriot)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife View Post
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    It's not the first thread where Rob has taken gleeful delight in wishing that Americans would die. He made another comment along the same lines in the Toyotya thread. Politics and free speech aside, that was just plain offensive. Keep it in MPK if you want to wish people harm.
    As you said yourself Humbert, satire, to make my point. You may have found it offensive, but look at many of the posts here by BM, JG, Dotcom, can you take them serioulsy? Are they not satirical, intentionally or not? As with comments on many other parts of the forum, it's ok for comments that wish for less blacks, less mussies, less libbies, less jews, etc to make the world a better place, but to think that less Americans would help or to even say it!?? Holy fuckshakes!!!

    There are many Americans I admire, the ideas and values they have given to the world are monumental, but that's too rational, too undefined for the partisan crowd in Issues, you're either for 'em or you're against 'em, well in the balance of things, if it gets my point across, just as derogatory racial/political comments in place of honest debate or meaningful criticism are offensive to me, what's a few dead Americans matter..? It certainly doesn't seem to matter to those that feel Healthcare reform is the road to America's ruin, and they're American, or at least claim to be..

    Issues is a bit of a joke and so is the moderation, it's a bearpit, a place to let off steam, there are some serious points made, but you have to pick through a lot of trash to find them. Capiche!?
    And some of that trash is sometimes yours "capiche"!!! this is the Obama news thread, not the stand alone- knuckle draggers are stupid and libbies are suckers thread, and this or that country's people are better of dead thread, there is a US healthcare thread, and Mkp for the rest of the off topic crap.

    I enjoy reading the good, on the subject (approximately) posts, from all you the most active posters in Issues, but sometimes we ourself's have to admit that it degenerates into worthless bickering, bad attempts of sarcasm, bitter jokes and off topic ranting, and that is from both sides of the fence.

    Debates do move slightly around the edges of subjects as a matter of fact, and thats great, and peoples stance can be rigid and determined, but most of you are intelligent enough to se when the genuine attempts of meaningful debate ends and turn into nothing but sour wile bile, where the ball is forgotten and it's all about the poster on the perceived opposite side.
    It ruins the flow of an otherwise good debate and thread.

    And so what if you have one of thousands of posts removed, you probably know with yourself if you are a bit honest, that it could be seen as borderline by some, so stop whining or if you cant then make a thread about modding issues here in Issues, we are allowed to have that here on TD unlike the other big forum.

    The above just - IMHO

    So Rob do you have any news about Obama today ?

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    Who is whining? Larv for mod methinks.

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    ^^ Levelheaded as always, Larv.

    Quote Originally Posted by dotcom View Post
    Obama's War with Catholics Continues.
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    I watched what was broadcast of that mtg. The man is way out of line. Obama should be really careful here, unless he forgets that many Mexican and Latinos belong to that church.
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Seems Mayor Goodman has pissed off many of his constituents-

    Residents and community leaders upset by Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman’s angry statements about President Barack Obama said they would welcome Obama to the city, even if Goodman won’t.
    5555 Ya, I read the rest of that article...

    Goodman’s outburst directed at America’s first black president tapped into general discontent with city government among some black Las Vegas residents, particularly in the largely black West Side community in Ward 5.

    Not enough welfare or police presence there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    What does Las Vegas contribute to the countries economy, except to attract a few overseas tourists.
    You should stick to stuff you know about. Knitting, perhaps?
    Vegas is a great spot for conventions besides wk-end getaways for Americans and lots of Canucks. Sure, gambling is key, but many go for the shows, the fab buffets, the glitter and excitement. Obama shot himself -- and the Dems -- in the foot yet again by denigrating the city yet again. Keep him hooked up to the teleprompter. He's getting as bad as Biden for gaffes.
    Here goes Jet opening with a personal attack once again.

    Anyone with half a brain knows only too well that Las Vegas is one of the great gambling capitals of the world. The cities foundations are built on gambling. The place is a great plastic monument to greed and the weakness of human nature. A city built by the Mafia. BTW Jet, I been there.

    And when Obama said "you dont go and blow a bundle in Vegas when you are saving for college", anyone with half a brain would know he didnt mean just going to a convention or a show. Las Vegas is a good-time party town rife with gambling and prostitution. But unfortunately for Mayor Goodman, the good times are over for now. Trying to blame Obamas quite truthful analogy for the cities recent demise is a sign of a desperate man clutching at straws, --- a desperate Republican man no doubt.

    Mayor Goodman is an Independent and a former member of the Democratic Party. Being a goodwill ambassador, he knows to appear neutral.

    Obama once again going off script. The question is why did he even say it? It's the second time he's knocked Las Vegas. He ought to consider his constituents in the SEIU restaurant and casino workers union. He ought not fk with someone personally which is what he did when he said "Vegas" and previously "Las Vegas". He could have used a generic term like 'gambling'.

    Think about the students who put themselves through university cleaning out casual players of online poker.

    Why should anyone save for college when the federal government recently took over the college loan industry and now provides low interest loans? Or better yet provides grants?

    (Goodman is a *J-e-w* you know.)



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