President Obama News Thread

[Boon Mee]

The Obamamessiah is indeed an empty suit. Here's further evidence he is ineffectual as usual:

Shameless: White House Burnishes Obama Image on Haiti With Timeline Release (Rush was right)

"Hardest working man in Show Business"!

[Boon Mee]

Kinda quiet here from the 'usual suspects'

[Muadib]

^ He was in Mass. trying to save Croakley's butt in the upcoming senatorial election... The world would come to an end if a Republican were elected as a representative from Mass, considering the tenure of Ted Kennedy...

If the Democrats lose that seat, the chances of health care passing are severely diminished... She does seem to be mucking it up pretty well...

Croakley - WSJ.com
By JOHN FUND

Democratic candidate Martha Coakley has run such a clueless race for Senate in Massachusetts that Democrats are already comparing her to Creigh Deeds, their hapless nominee for governor of Virginia who lost last year in a landslide.


But other comparisons are even more cutting. Michael Barone, co-author of the Almanac of Americans Politics, wrote yesterday: "If Republican Scott Brown wins this election -- and every day his chances look better -- Democrats might conclude that Martha Coakley was a Republican plant, a Manchurian candidate inserted into the race in order to deprive Democrats of their 60th vote in the Senate."


How bad has Ms. Coakley's effort been? This week she took time off from her desultory campaigning to go to a Washington, D.C. wine bar and collect $10,000 in checks from health care lobbyists. Afterwards, an aide shoved a reporter to the ground for trying to ask the candidate a question (an action the aide has now apologized for). The Weekly Standard reporter had been trying to ask Ms. Coakley about her incredible statement in a debate this week that there were no longer any terrorists in Afghanistan.


But perhaps her worst error was appearing to have dissed baseball fans who congregate at Boston's Fenway Park, a Massachusetts shrine even in the off-season. Asked to answer charges that she wasn't campaigning hard enough, she fired back: "As opposed to standing outside Fenway Park? In the cold? Shaking hands?" (An ad for her GOP opponent Mr. Brown showed him shaking hands in front of the ballpark.)


The crack drew an instant response from former Red Sox star Curt Schilling, who attacked Ms. Coakley for being one of those pols who are "so far out of touch with their constituents it's laughable and pathetic."


Ms. Coakley's campaign has indeed been a disaster, and that's certainly what Democrats will emphasize should she lose. Democrats will studiously ignore the fact that her cookie-cutter liberal ideas were viewed by many independents as out-of-date and conventional. Her inability to talk about issues such as jobs that are a pressing concern to voters will be every bit as much to blame as her innumerable tactical missteps.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ Yep, bambam even slipped into his negro dialect for a bit there. Apparently there were several Brown supporters outside Northeastern U and only a few anti-abortion hecklers inside. The libbies are already moving towards reconciliation on the healthcare bill (only need 51 to pass it) but that means they have to take all the pork out of it. Love the deal Obama cut with his buddies at the unions -- no taxes on their cadillac HC plans until something like 2018 and the ceiling was raised $1,000 a year. Dental and optometrist not included -- free, free, free. Those poor slobs who are non-union workers -- only about 85% of the pop -- their caddy HC plans will be taxed. What a sham.

[dotcom]

Here bambam sees his first ever pushback. He then goes into full babble mode. Stuttering like there is no tomorrow.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ He also forgot where he was...he said seniors centre (Northeatern U? 555)....at least he got the state right. Good thing Coakley didn't have to spell it for him. Coakley let the rapist of a 23-month old child (oh, he used a curling iron they believe) go free until the DA who replace her got the pr**k slammed up in jail for two life sentences. The woman does not know what's going on in A-stan (oh, the terrorists left there) never mind her own state (oops, calling Schiller a Yankees fan), took time off for Xmas and slammed her opponent for driving around in a truck while she preferred swish fundraisers in DC and a swank Boston hotel. Libbies. She would just be another bambam lapdog.
Poor BO. She loses and more egg on his face.

[HermantheGerman]

I totally agree with all you anti - Obama Fans ! It shows me again... how sick and stupid the american people are to vote for such a worthless nut.
Fu*king dopes never seem to vote the right Prez:

[Muadib]

^ The only other choice was the McCain / Palin ticket... Just the thought of Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from being POTUS caused many voters to place their bets on Obama... Especially at Mccain's age...

Sarah Palin may be a wonderful, down-home kind of person, but IMO she is not material suitable for the highest levels of governance in the US...

[MrG]

It shows me again... how sick and stupid the american people are to vote for such a worthless nut. Fu*king dopes never seem to vote the right Prez:

Yeah. For instance, the American people voted for Al Gore in 2000, but a coup by the the same ilk of Right Wingers, supported by the stooges on the Supreme Court, denied the democratic process. Their about as American as you are, Herman...not at all.

[Jet Gorgon]

For instance, the American people voted for Al Gore in 2000, but a coup by the the same ilk of Right Wingers, supported by the stooges on the Supreme Court, denied the democratic process. Their about as American as you are, Herman...not at all.

5555555555555 BS. If you want to go that route, how about Franken and the sudden appearance of absentee ballots in his favour, or the WA governor race? ACORN and the SEIU will try to screw over Brown in MA.

I note that Obama has delayed the State of the Union address to January 27. Hey, he's da man! Be changing even more befo he be thru. He is twisting his bowels trying to ensure he has his crap HC bill full of pork and special interest frills in the bag before he gives the address. I've never seen a group of cheats as big as this Congress and Prez in any party.

If he rams the bill thru, I expect a big revolt. Here's hoping MA votes a landslide for Brown.

[panama hat]

It shows me again... how sick and stupid the american people are to vote for such a worthless nut. Fu*king dopes never seem to vote the right Prez:

Yeah. For instance, the American people voted for Al Gore in 2000, but a coup by the the same ilk of Right Wingers, supported by the stooges on the Supreme Court, denied the democratic process. Their about as American as you are, Herman...not at all.

Part and parcel of having a two-party system . . . well, not the fraud rather the concept of a true democracy

[sabang]

I've not been paying much attention to the Massachusetts by-election, but it does seem that Coakley and the Dem's have been sitting on their hands while the Brown campaign gains momentum. Given that it is the all important 60th Senate seat up for grabs, such complacency will be heavily punished if she loses- which is quite possible, Polls suggest.

Then, an even more watered down version of HC reform will have to be passed via reconciliation- leaving yet more to be done by future governments to bring healthcare costs under control. Given the out of control spiral in HC costs in the USA, and an aging population, this is vital stuff.

Really, people living in places like Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, Singapore and so on that have had health care systems for as long as they can recall must be looking at this and shaking their heads. If the US truly has become ungovernable, frankly it would be better off demerging into several regional sovereign states- at least then it would no longer have to live up to this expensive mythology of being the Worlds Policeman, or sole Superpower. The money saved on "Defence" () spending could be put to far better use- as in actually helping the people, who already seem to many of us foreigners to be treated pretty shabbily for citizens of such an affluent nation. Unless they're already rich, that is .

Such a hullabaloo about giving people in a supposedly advanced nation access to affordable health care, and reining in costs.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ Your remarks are laughable, SB. Yes, HC reform is needed in the US, but not govt run. HK free HC? 5555555555555 I lived there, too. Worse than the UK's.

You worry about the ageing pop and spiralling HC costs in the US. So, govt run is better? WTF is gonna pay for that? How about taxing the union folks' plans? The US needs tort reform, cross-state competition and IMO better and more efficient regs on new drug acceptance instead of what the FDA imposes now.

US Defense keeps your sorry a** safe all over the world. You want Belgium as the world policeman? Load of toss you're talking.

[sabang]

It seems specious to repeat the same old facts ad infinitum Jet. The US pays over double of it's GDP for health care than virtually every other industrialised country- but every other industrialised country has universal health care! This is not a 'European' thing, or a 'Caucasian' thing. It is an advanced, industrialised country thing. And, in common with all other industrialised countries, the US has an aging population- so the problem is only going to get worse if something is not done about it. Healthcare costs are already a contributing factor to most personal bankruptcies in the USA.

In the times that we are living, this 'leave it to the private sector' mantra is laughable- they got us into this mess. Not only is the US healthcare system a rather stark example of the failure of the private sector, compared to other countries- but so is the US economy. The 'owners' of the country- being the People, in case you didn't realise, have had to bail out the Banking & financial sector with their own (ie Taxpayers) money. Now these corporate welfare cases are spending money to try and scupper reform- and some ignorant people are falling for it.

So, lets look at the main sources of funding for these 'anti reform' Lobby groups -

Healthcare reform- Health insurance companies, and to a lesser extent big pharma, and other participants in the HC sector.

Financial sector reform - Banks, and Investment banks.

Oh, the same people that enriched themselves on the back of these inefficient, opaque, oligopies in the first place- what a surprise. Honestly, if an individual American can not tell what is really happening in his own country I am concerned about the future of it's society.

I'm not kidding- if the USA in it's current format has become fundamentally ungovernable, it should demerge- maybe into something like a European style union. Even now the people from the coastal states do not seem to have much solidarity with those in 'flyover' country, and vice versa.

At the end of the day, the government of the day works for, is 'owned' by, and reports to the People as a whole- not special interest Lobby groups, be they for private industry sectors, Christian fundamentalists, Israel or whomever.

[Boon Mee]

Poor BO. She loses and more egg on his face.

You have to love it!

[sabang]

You want Belgium as the world policeman?

Nope, and neither the US. Neither of us are Amerkin, although we've both lived there, and like the place. The internal problems they are facing should be their main priority at the moment, and they've got plenty of those.

[dotcom]

^ The only other choice was the McCain / Palin ticket... Just the thought of Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from being POTUS caused many voters to place their bets on Obama... Especially at Mccain's age...

Sarah Palin may be a wonderful, down-home kind of person, but IMO she is not material suitable for the highest levels of governance in the US...

Agree with you. And neither is Biden. Mccain was not a good candidate - he is a progressive. Same cancer as bambam. Dumb & dumber.
Did you see Biden speaking down in Florida? He needs a teleprompter.

[panama hat]

So, who would have been a good/better candidate on both sides?

[dotcom]

It seems specious to repeat the same old facts ad infinitum Jet. The US pays over double of it's GDP for health care than virtually every other industrialised country- but every other industrialised country has universal health care! This is not a 'European' thing, or a 'Caucasian' thing. It is an advanced, industrialised country thing. And, in common with all other industrialised countries, the US has an aging population- so the problem is only going to get worse if something is not done about it. Healthcare costs are already a contributing factor to most personal bankruptcies in the USA.

We have seen healthcare in England & Canada & we want no part of it. Ambulances stacked in hospital forecourts with patients aboard to bypass the 8 hour rule. This is rationing. You are 85 & you need a hip replacement? The deatrh panels rule that you aren't going to live long enough. DENIED!!!

You need expensive cancer drugs? DENIED.

In Canada the emphasis is on "fairness" that the rich would get better healthcare that the poor based on the fact they could pay more. Wait maybe 8 months for an MRI. That's rationing.

Saying you can't be denied coverage due to pre-existing condition is like buying a new car - declining insurance & then you insist on buying coverage after you have a crash. NONSENSE

[dotcom]

So, who would have been a good/better candidate on both sides?

None of the above.
McCain is corrupted by the lobby system.

Someone like Mike Pence is gonna emerge for the GOP. There are no good dems.

[panama hat]

Take yourself back to the time before the election when both parties were looking for the 'most qualified' candidates.

Who would you have chosen . . . the most qualified people in general terms

[sabang]

We have seen healthcare in England & Canada & we want no part of it.

Waddya mean 'We' whiteman. Presumably not the majority that voted Obama in as Potus.

It is hardly my problem that children in the USA are less likely to live to the age of 5 than they are in Libya, or that your country has one of the lowest life expectancies in the Developed world. Or that most of your countries personal bankruptcies are at least partially attributed to health care costs. When I lived there, I had one of those so called Cadillac plans, paid for by my (American) employer. When I travelled there later on business, my company had to pay double the health insurance premium than if I travelled to any other country in the world- yeh, that hurt a bit because I was part owner of the company, but a minor inconvenience in the scheme of things.

Obama's biggest campaign promise was health care reform in the USA, and he was voted in with a safe majority. Why then are you so surprised this is what is happening? Because your guy lost maybe? Democracy sucks, eh.

Neither is it really my problem that you pay over double the amount that other advanced countries do for this so called 'health care' system. I am however curious why several Americans stubbornly defend it. I mean, It's a crock of shit- yet you have available the most advanced medical, pharmaceutical and information technology in the world.

The Americans I've met have always described the USA as a 'can do' country. We'll see.

[slackula]

There are no good dems.

Petulant much?

[Boon Mee]

The Obamamessiah's Terror Policy still working overtime!

[sabang]

Martha Coakley made a jaw-dropping declaration earlier this week at the only live televised debate in Boston that she has deigned to do. She said, and I quote, “I’ve traveled the state and met tremendous people.’’

If she did, it was under the cover of darkness, with an assumed name.

Because if she had really traveled the state, if she had taken the time to meet voters, Coakley wouldn’t be in the position she finds herself in now, heading into the final weekend of this special election campaign in a perilously close race against a GOP state legislator nobody had heard of a mere six months ago.

Full article- Race is in a spinout - The Boston Globe

Yep, gotta agree with that.