Thread: Bush - Point of no return

Objectively speaking, what was the turning point event precipitating Bushes popularity downfall? When did he start to loose the respect of all but his staunchest supporters (red state inbreeds with an IQ under 70 )

I have asked this question to several people and some say the "Mission Accomplished" fiasco or the just plain dumb comment "Bring it on". Unbelievably, he was re-elected after these events so Bush has some real diehard loyalists for sure.

The point of no return for me was Bush's Katrina comment - "You're doin a heck of a job Brownie" as more and more helpless people suffered and dead people were floating in the flooded streets of New Orleans. It was a rare peek behind the curtain, an exposure of incompetence rarely seen at the presidential level.

Anyway, when did this self serving sap of a president really begin to loose the respect of all but the densest of the public.

BRING IT ON!

Ask several different people and you will get several different replies. It seems a long time ago now, but after Bush was first elected and before 911 he was already being seen as a lame duck President- he received a tremendous boost from the 911 atrocity. From being initially pro Bush, I was having misgivings about his Presidency quite early but the final straw was the invasion of Iraq, and from that point on I have been staunchly anti Bush. I think history has vindicated me.

I think his popularity turned in his own party when he tried to force the privatization of social security, his own political troops started to rebel, breaking ranks

that was the real beginning of the end, and incendently this is when all the shit in Iraq started, right after the election

I am not sure when and where Bush tripped and fell in his popularity. I was originally impressed with him as he did what he said he was going to do without worrying about what people thought. There has been a call for politicians like that for some time and for them to quit blowing with the wind.

I was for the invasion of Afghanistan and at the time and also Iraq but not as much for the 911 reason. I was for it because Saddam had thumbed his nose so many times at the UN and their mandates. The UN is not a successful organization and I I also knew that Saddam and his posse were running a murderous and brutal regime. My Iraq war support began to go down with no WMD's being found and continued to go down as I learned that he did not take the advice of military experts and send in enough troops to do the job. The death and cover up of Pat Tillman was a big turning point for me. I knew guys that served with him and I admire his decision to give up his football career to serve his country.

However, the reports I get from friends in Iraq is that there are many good things happening that are never reported. I have also heard that about 500 tons of yellow cake was found in Iraq, but no major news on it. I am told by friends close to things in Iraq, that things will be far better for the country once this is over. I have my doubts.

Katrina was a big let down for me. I do not understand why evacuations were not done and why more help was not immediately given. I think that Mayor Nagin and his team did not do their part with getting people out and the state did not come through either. The levies and their condition can be blamed on many people for many years.

The economic crisis can be blamed on many, many presidents, politicians, banks, Greenspan and the American people. This blame can go back for 25 or more years. The American people have been a credit dependent bunch and also spent more than they have and instead of saving always went deeper into debt.

As for Bush and how history will treat him? Not good at all, but if he makes it to January 1, 2009 without a new territories attack on US soil, he can claim success in that one area. I think the guy is ready to be done with the whole mess.

In the end, I don’t have faith in Bush, Obama, MaCain or any other politician for that matter. They are all self serving bastards that can't be trusted. No matter who is President, expect more of the same.

Originally Posted by chitown

However, the reports I get from friends in Iraq is that there are many good things happening that are never reported.

oh please, what a sorry excuse. You can't be that naive ?

Originally Posted by chitown

Not good at all, but if he makes it to January 1, 2009 without a new territories attack on US soil, he can claim success in that one area.

ok, I take that back, you are that naive. I guess Clinton was also doing a good job since there were no terrorists attack on US soil under his tenure.

Originally Posted by chitown

In the end, I don’t have faith in Bush, Obama, MaCain or any other politician for that matter.

Translation: my batty boy got completely oWnED and exposed as the fraud that he was, and I am a crying baby and nothing will ever be the same again !!! Grow up, chitown, politics always been like that, that's why you don't vote for idiots like Bush, they are not cut for the job. Do you also believe in Santa Clause ? if yes, then you should elect him as President.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by chitown

However, the reports I get from friends in Iraq is that there are many good things happening that are never reported.

oh please, what a sorry excuse. You can't be that naive ?

Originally Posted by chitown

Not good at all, but if he makes it to January 1, 2009 without a new territories attack on US soil, he can claim success in that one area.

ok, I take that back, you are that naive. I guess Clinton was also doing a good job since there were no terrorists attack on US soil under his tenure.

Originally Posted by chitown

In the end, I don’t have faith in Bush, Obama, MaCain or any other politician for that matter.

Translation: my batty boy got completely oWnED and exposed as the fraud that he was, and I am a crying baby and nothing will ever be the same again !!! Grow up, chitown, politics always been like that, that's why you don't vote for idiots like Bush, they are not cut for the job. Do you also believe in Santa Clause ? if yes, then you should elect him as President.

In the first place you French rifle tossing fag, how many people do you know stationed in Iraq?

There are news reports of good things happening as well, just buried.

If we had any French president as our commander in chief we would have surrendered on 911 and allowed the Mussies to come in and rape all our women, which is what happened in France in every war. the only difference is your women enjoyed having real men for once as they all became girlfirends of the Nazi soldiers.

If your so called educated queer mind had any reading comprehension, you would 1) see the thread is discussing when the popularity of Bush ended and 2) see that I don't support him, any ohter politician or Iraq at this point.

Stick to rimming ladyboys, it may be your only talent.

Originally Posted by chitown

There are news reports of good things happening as well, just buried.

Yeah, and who cares ? and how is this an excuse for destroying a harmless country ? it's a very naive excuse, borderline stupid !!!

Originally Posted by chitown

If we had any French president as our commander in chief we would have surrendered on 911

guess what ? you did surrender on 911, that's the beauty of it and you don't even know it. You left the SA base per Osama Bin Laden request, and engaged in a silly war at the illusionary cost of security. You already lost, period, and without a fight.

Originally Posted by chitown

allowed the Mussies to come in and rape all our women,

now showing your true colors, as expected

Originally Posted by chitown

2) see that I don't support him,

No you no longer support him AFTER it became clear that he was a fucking loser, that's different. You probably voted for the clown, twice, which speaks volume about your "values" and "character"

After 9/11 Bush and America had most of the worlds sympathy, after invading Iraq that was all lost, and his continued efforts to link Saddam Hussein to 9/11 by continually mentioning the 2 in the same sentence everytime he spoke just made him look an even bigger Dufus, and any respect he had was gone.

Originally Posted by chitown

I was originally impressed with him as he did what he said he was going to do without worrying about what people thought. There has been a call for politicians like that for some time and for them to quit blowing with the wind.

Saddam, Hitler and Stalin come to mind.

He was born.

I'm not being flippant, imagine a world where George W had never existed, still pretty crap, but considerably less so.

Originally Posted by pickel

Saddam, Hitler and Stalin come to mind.

Hitler had the majority of the German people, and Stalin is still popular to this day, and so is Mao

Murderers always inspire the weak minds,

GW Bush was popular with the majority of American morons, at least they could see themselves in their leader

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Originally Posted by chitown

I guess Clinton was also doing a good job since there were no terrorists attack on US soil under his tenure.

Butterfly, you asked me the other day what my education level was and now I laughingly must ask you what yours is?

Let me help educated you on this - the World Trade Center was bombed by Islamic terrorists on February 26, 1993. This happened during Clinton's presidency.

Let me also educate you on this - the French government did not want war with Iraq because so many French oil executives and high ranking politicians were receiving bribes filtered through the French bank BNP Paribus.

Let me further educate you Butterhole, that the major war fought on US soil was the war of 1812, France is invaded often and always as it is known for not having real men that have what it takes to fight a war.

I am curious if you can list a war that the French won by themselves? One that they did not need to cry to the another country for help?