Thread: GOP: now & in the future

^ You still on US welfare then, robu?

…………John Derbyshire, who writes a column at the leading right-wing publication, National Review, thinks women shouldn't be allowed to vote:

COLMES: We would be a better country? John Derbyshire making the statement, we would be a better country if women did not vote.

DERBYSHIRE: Yeah, probably.


Who next,…..black men?

Originally Posted by S Landreth

…………John Derbyshire, who writes a column at the leading right-wing publication, National Review, thinks women shouldn't be allowed to vote:

COLMES: We would be a better country? John Derbyshire making the statement, we would be a better country if women did not vote.

DERBYSHIRE: Yeah, probably.


Who next,…..black men?

Yeah, probably. Property requirements come next.

Originally Posted by robuzo

No, they don't get it. It's always somebody else's fault

The party of personal responsibility indeed.

30 GOP Senators Vote to Defend Gang Rape

Here are those (all and only Republicans) who vote to protect a corporation over a victim of rape:

Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kyl (R-AZ)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

In 2005, Jamie Leigh Jones was gang-raped by her co-workers while she was working for Halliburton/KBR in Baghdad. She was detained in a shipping container for at least 24 hours without food, water, or a bed, and "warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she'd be out of a job." (Jones was not an isolated case.) Jones was prevented from bringing charges in court against KBR because her employment contract stipulated that sexual assault allegations would only be heard in private arbitration.

A New Low

The Senators above are taking it up the butt from the defense contractors, but it isn't rape if you are paid for it.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Jones was prevented from bringing charges in court against KBR because her employment contract stipulated that sexual assault allegations would only be heard in private arbitration.

Of course this is a horrid case. But this is the legal point of contention -- she signed the contract.
The libbie blogger who wrote that headline is another example of the effects of leftie froth at the mouth syndrome. Of course, anything to attack Halli and, by extension, Cheney, is worthy of several pages of blather. I would read more liberal news sites if there was not so much rude vitriole spewed in every paragraph.

a twist on the iphone apps commercials...

Originally Posted by raycarey

limbaugh wants powell out of the GOP and cheney prefers limbaugh to powell.....but guess who the american people prefer?

Heh...keep your eye on Huckabee boys! America is growing real tired with these tax & spend liberals and Huckabee is ahead in the polls over Palin and Romney. A good southern conservative like Huckabee will restore America's values. Enough with the Community Organizers & Acorn eh?

This man does have a sense of humor,…………

Newt Gingrich, the former House Speaker and perennial big thinker in the Republican party, said this morning that he will likely run for president in 2012 if he and his wife, Callista, assess the field of candidates in 2011 and feel "a requirement as citizens that we run." His comments came during an interview on C-SPAN's Washington Journal this morning. The full exchange and video are below.

C-SPAN: "If you were to run, what factors would you take into account? What would lead you to think about running?"

GINGRICH: "Callista and I are going to think about this in February 2011. And we are going to reach out to all of our friends around the country. And we'll decide, if there's a requirement as citizens that we run, I suspect we probably will. And if there's not a requirement, if other people have filled the vacuum, I suspect we won't."

And the video:

Link: http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10/25/newt-gingrich-says-he-may-run-for-president-in-2012/#

Maybe a Palin/Gingrich ticket?

I couldn’t help posting this without the picture of a Zeppelin going down in flames (as on the linked page). Just like the Republican Party of today,….quickly going down in a big ball of flames.


The Republican Brand in Ruins: 75% of Americans Dislike Republicans; Over 70% Think Palin’s Not Qualified to be President

While impressions of Obama’s professional performance are mixed, the same can’t be said of the Republican Party at large. Put simply, the GOP’s brand is still a mess. According to the poll, just 25% have a positive opinion of the party (compared with 42% for the Dem Party), which ties the GOP’s low-water mark in the survey and which is a worse score than it ever had during the Bush presidency.

And the Teabaggers’ GILF didn’t fare much better in another new poll.

More than 7 in 10 Americans think Sarah Palin is not qualified to be president, according to a new national poll. Seventy-one percent of those questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Wednesday morning believe the former Alaska governor and 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee is not qualified to be president, with 29 percent saying she does have the credentials to serve in the White House.

The CNN poll found that Huckleberry is leading the GOP’s 2012 presidential pack, followed by the ‘Cuda, with Willard placing third.

Willard really must be thinking at this point: how can I still be losing to these yahoos?

Link: http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/28/the-republican-brand-in-ruins-75-of-americans-dislike-republicans-over-70-think-palins-not-qualified-to-be-president

Originally Posted by S Landreth

More than 7 in 10 Americans think Sarah Palin is not qualified to be president

I'm concerned that nearly three in ten are.

Now the GOP geniuses seems to have decided that after losing an election by 9 million votes the strategy should be to attack an organisation of their staunchest supporters:

Is AARP The GOP's New ACORN? | TPMDC

What's next? The NRA and fundie christians?

they're attacking the AARP?

good god, they are completely insane.

Sociopaths don't like to lose...

Originally Posted by slackula

Now the GOP geniuses seems to have decided that after losing an election by 9 million votes the strategy should be to attack an organisation of their staunchest supporters:

Is AARP The GOP's New ACORN? | TPMDC

What's next? The NRA and fundie christians?

I'm no fan of AARP, and I cannot comment on whether the GOP has a case against AARP.

Politically, it could be bad for the GOP.

Thanks for the article slakula.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Politically, it could be bad for the GOP.

could be?

old people can be counted on for three things:

eating dinner before 4:30, watching the weather channel for more than 4 hours/day, and voting.

The elderly are the only major Demographic left in the USA that are still pro- Republican.
AARP is a strongly organised Lobby too.

I don't want to stick the boot into the GOP when they are clearly already reeling, but squabbling with these guys is the absolute last thing they need right now.

It's bad enough the way they are squabbling with each other, and with no discernible leadership.

What a Mess.

More divisions. At the state level in Florida. A purge of GOPers who tilted toward the Libertarian view philosophically and policy-wise.

This is an ongoing fight in many states. Republicans need to figure out how to work with libertarians, rather than treating them as unwelcome outsiders. You can't ask for libertarian votes and then tell them to shut up and go away. But on the other side of this, libertarians also need to realize that a winning coalition requires an accomodation of interests and the way to lead the coalition is by showing them how they can actually win. Revolution! may be a lot of fun, but revolutionaries tend to get their heads cut off. Libertarians need to play electoral democracy....and Republicans need to remember what Ronald Reagan said: "the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism". - Jon Henke

On Friday — timed just right to minimize news coverage — Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer and the state party Grievance Committee notified a number of party members, many of them holding elective office,that they were effectively purged from the party and had been remo ved from their offices and would be ineligible to hold any other party positions for periods ranging from two to four years.

The targets of this purge are mostly members of the Florida chapter of the Republican Liberty Caucus, a group which seeks to return the party to its core beliefs of individual liberty, limited government, and free markets. These particular individuals were targeted because they had expressed opinions critical of party policy, candidates, and office holders, on the basis of which the grievance committee decided that they had "engaged in disruptive conduct likely to interfere with the activities of the Republican Party." Acting on the committee's recommendation, Chairman Greer issued letters stripping them of their offices and rights as party members.

This is the culmination of an ongoing assault by a party establishment dominated by big-government Republican hacks seeking to silence grassroots activists who are trying to reform the party and bring it back to the values on which it was founded. Previous actions against the RLC include an attempt to prevent them from using the word “Republican” in their name, despite the fact that the group has used the title for almost 20 years and obtained permission in writing from the party for the use of the name under a prior administration.

The current actions may be at least partially driven by the success of the RLC in Florida, where it has grown to be one of the largest political groups in the state, and by the outspoken support of many members for Marco Rubio, who is challenging incumbent Governor Charlie Crist in the next senatorial election. Many RLC activists supported Ron Paul in the last presidential primary and were not enthusiastic about the McCain nomination, drawing criticism from the party establishment. Also at issue were demands for an audit of the state party and an investigation into financial improprieties by Orange County Chairman Lew Oliver.

The complaint against Florida RLC Chairman Will Pitts was typical of the type of issues raised against the targets of the purge. Pitts attended a Campaign for Liberty event, wore a Ron Paul button after the primary, went to an End the Fed rally and was critical of GOP leaders, including describing Chairman Greer and Governor Crist as "pathetic and embarrassing."

On the basis of actions like these, which amount to little more than having an opinion which is unpopular with the party leadership, Pitts was banned from serving in any official office in the RPOF for two years plus another two years of probation, during which expressing an unapproved opinion will presumably lead to further punishment. Other RLC members targeted include Nick Egoroff of Orlando who was expelled for four years, Northeast Florida RLC Chairman John Stevens who was removed from his office as a Precinct Committeeman and banned from office until 2013 which is after the next election cycle, and RLC board member Elizabeth Campbell who was stripped of her position as a Committeewoman in Excambria County. Others targeted in the purge include Brevard Republican Chairman Jason Steele, Orange County Precinct Committeeman Deon Long and anti-tax activist Doug Guetzloe of Orange County. Egoroff plans to file a lawsuit against Greer and the state party.

It is troubling to see these purges directed at loyal grassroots activists like Will Pitts and John Stevens who have been working hard for years to build up the Republican Party in Florida, bring in new blood and encourage reforms and a return to Republican ideals. It's outrageous that they have been punished by the Florida Party for little more than expressing personal opinions which were not popular with a leadership which has no tolerance for dissent or speech which doesn't match their version of political correctness. The GOP has always been a "Big Tent" with room for diversity of opinion and a respect for the right of free expression, but in Florida under Greer the rules are more like those of the Soviet Communists who believed that slavish subservience to the party was more important than individual rights.

Who can blame these activists for their honest disagreement with the policies which have taken the GOP away from its principles of limited government and individual liberty, sold its soul to special interests, and brought it to a reduced status as a minority party in both houses of Congress? The party needs them and their idealism far more than it needs leaders like Greer who defend the status quo with purges and suppression of dissent.

It's also disturbing that many of those purged held offices which they were voted into in a public election. It is fundamentally wrong that party officials should negate the vote of the people for such petty reasons. The will of the people is not lightly flaunted and there will be a price to be paid in the next election for riding roughshod over the voters and party rank and file who see the need for change which the leadership is blindly resisting.

Party leaders ought to be looking to the RLC for a new generation of leadership, not singling them out for punishment for stating truths which ought to be obvious. This purge is a direct attack on loyal Republicans who just want to see the Party live up to its avowed beliefs. Healthy debate makes the party stronger and enthusiastic grassroots activists like these should not be punished for commitment to principle or idealism, even when it leads them to openly criticize the leaders who have failed them and the party.

The national board of the Republican Liberty Caucus has issued a strongly worded press release in support of the Florida chapter urging their members nationwide to write letters to newspapers and national party officials protesting the purges.

http://www.thenextright.com/dave-nal...spoken-members

Highly recommended:
Matt Taibbi - Taibblog – Yes, Sarah, There is a Media Conspiracy - True/Slant

The press corps that is bashing [Palin's] skull in right now is the same one that hyped that WMD horseshit for like four solid years and pom-pommed America to war with Iraq over the screeching objections of the entire planet. It’s the same press corps that rolled out the red carpet for someone very nearly as abjectly stupid as Sarah Palin to win not one but two terms in the White House. If there was any kind of consensus support for Palin inside the beltway, the criticism of her, bet on it, would be almost totally confined to chortling east coast smartasses like me and Glenn Greenwald and Andrew Sullivan.

What the people who are flipping out about the treatment of Palin should be asking themselves is what it means when it’s not just jerks like us but everybody piling on against Palin. For those of you who can’t connect the dots, I’ll tell you what it means. It means she’s been cut loose. It means that all five of the families have given the okay to this hit job, including even the mainstream Republican leaders. You teabaggers are in the process of being marginalized by your own ostensible party leaders in exactly the same way the anti-war crowd was abandoned by the Democratic party elders in the earlier part of this decade. Like the antiwar left, you have been deemed a threat to your own party’s “winnability.”

Originally Posted by robuzo

What the people who are flipping out about the treatment of Palin should be asking themselves is what it means when it’s not just jerks like us but everybody piling on against Palin. For those of you who can’t connect the dots, I’ll tell you what it means. It means she’s been cut loose. It means that all five of the families have given the okay to this hit job, including even the mainstream Republican leaders. You teabaggers are in the process of being marginalized by your own ostensible party leaders in exactly the same way the anti-war crowd was abandoned by the Democratic party elders in the earlier part of this decade. Like the antiwar left, you have been deemed a threat to your own party’s “winnability.”

The Tea Baggers are a fringe movement, IMO. At the moment at least. At first (last year) think the Tea Baggers were non-partisan. But it's clear that they are, and look at the way they dress, and they way they speak.

And yes, I do agree Robuzo, many (most) mainstream and moderate GOPers want Palin out of the picture. She doesn't capture the demographic groups needed by the GOP.