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    "An exceptionally creative suicide then"

    One should be very careful before swallowing anything found on an internet blog hook, line and sinker. If everything jived completely with the information posted here there is NO WAY anyone in the Army could have prevented this from being investigated.

    Why would top brass want to cover up?

    Do you think a whole butt-load of career soldiers would risk losing their careers and pensions to protect a rapist and killer? Seems unlikely to me, but more probably than the finding of Bigfoot in a block of ice.

    When things don't add up, as in what has been posted here, it is better to check your input data again.

    I am not that interested to devote my life to uncovering the truth about this matter, but I would want to hear the Army's side of the story and take a look at the evidence before jumping to a conclusion.

    But, our anti-americans and left wing radicals already have the conclucion, US and US Army are bad and therefore any thing written that shows America and its Army in a bad light is true. They don't need anything like hearing both sides of a story, nor do they want to exam evidence nor use logical analysis. They KNOW the answers, because they read left wing blogs which tell them all they need to know.

    I am skeptical, but would not rule out the possibility of a coverup but would need far more proof than what has been posted here to believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    Why would top brass want to cover up?
    I am not about to jump to conclusions, but I think a formal investigation is warranted- when you add the racial element to the apparently somewhat stonewalling attitude of the Army, especially so.

    It is the above question that interests, and puzzles me most. Military cover-ups are nothing new however, and certainly not a US phenomenon. Without speculating guilt, some theoretical reasons-

    Public opinion 'back home'- an increasingly unpopular foreign war certainly would not be made more popular after an incident of this nature. And black americans make an inordinately high number of recruits.
    Morale on the ground- maybe it was thought the effect on troop morale within Iraq would be too bad, although this sounds weak to me.
    'Esprit de Corps'- Military prefer to handle disciplinary matters themselves, plus there are issues like the shame to the regiment, and the 'protect ones own' ethos- if the charge were to apply to a senior officer, both of these factors would be enhanced powerfully. It would be an example of esprit de Corps gone bad.

    There is also the matter of whether any cover-up, if indeed there was one, was necessarily at Top Brass level.

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    LOUISVILLE, Ky. - A federal judge in Kentucky has upheld civilian charges against a former 101st Airborne Division soldier accused in the sexual assault of an Iraqi teenager and the slayings of her and her family.

    Judge upholds Iraq charges against former soldier - Yahoo! News

    it would seem, if the Amry wanted to cover up a case, this one in the link would be it.

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    maybe they don't like blue on blue!

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    I am not anti-American, I worked for Brown and Root for 20 yrs.
    Just seen this story, i know it is not recent but how the f*ck can it be ruled suicide ?
    Shot in her left side of head (she was right handed), eyeball hanging out and acid burns around her genitals amongst other inconsistencies.
    Phew, i think her family have been treated terribly after campaigning so long for a proper investigation.
    If it was George Bush's daughter instead of Lavena, it never would have been classed 'suicide', what a joke.

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    The Silent Truth

    Wednesday, November 10th, the day before Veteran's Day--a new documentary on veterans, made its national debut in St. Louis. Veterans For Peace, a group pledging to expose..."THE TRUE COST OF WAR," partnered with the film maker and the family of deceased Army Private Lavena Lynn Johnson to make this important work. The film deals with the gruesome reality of military service, focusing on the story of a young veteran in her teens, believed to be brutally raped and murdered by other soldiers or mercenaries, and the culture of sexism, lies and coverup which pervades the military. The story is horrific yet compelling, and the title sadly appropriate, namely--The Silent Truth.
    The Silent Truth Documentary aka The LaVena Johnson Murder Cover-Up

    The 'Congressional committee' was predictably stonewalled-

    "Not only did these military leaders fail to recall certain events--the congressional committee members sat there helpless to obtain any legitimate testimony. Rumsfeld reminded me of the nasty kid claiming ...'the dog ate his homework.' So, while Congressman Clay gave a verbal spanking to Pentagon leaders--other Republican members of this committee were fawning over these Generals, practically apologizing for the inconvenience of it all."

    It has been almost six years since Johnsons death- still no action, and very little publicity. The contrast to the publicity surrounding the rape and incarceration of a civilian KBR worker, Jamie Leigh Jones, is baffling. Perhaps the film will stir some overdue public interest. In the case of Jones, she is suing KBR in a civil case- but KBR has appealed the decision to let this case go to court, arguing she is bound by an employers arbitration agreement. Robert Scott (D-VA) stated that the DOJ "seems to be taking action with respect to enforcement of criminal laws in Iraq only when it is forced to do something by embarrassing media coverage."
    Last edited by sabang; 13-03-2011 at 09:13 AM.

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    good follow up sabang and after all this time nothing has happened seems very suss to me hope the family get the result they deserve

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