Thread: Obama's Pastor: Rev. Jeremiah Wright

Originally Posted by sabang

Wright is the Pastor of an acknowledged succesful Church- a useful endorsement for Obama, until this latest stuff. I don't see how they are so close

Obama had given him a political appointment, some sort of religious adviser and was going to have him give the introduction speech naming his run for presidency - they are close.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Jesus..what a comparison. I'm surprised, Stroll - jing, jing... Billy Graham does not make statements like: "Go_damn America" like this POS 'preacher'...

Billy Graham and others make comments which are equally offensive to some. People have different beliefs and opinions.
The whole thing is blown out of proportion in the pre-election circus IMO.

Originally Posted by BobbyTits

In this era of ohh so political correctness , any other politician would be out on his ass with having any type of a relationship with someone like Rev Wright , let alone being as close to him as Obama is.

Hello, somebody at home?- reality check!
The words of the preacher are far from "politically correct", a better description would be "very controversial" in the political context they are being placed in now. But sure, you (plural) are going to try an' squeeze as much political capital out of this as possible to discredit the "nigga".

Originally Posted by raycarey

for example boon mee took the time to hide a rabid anti obama blog's URL with an actress' name.

Sorry, but you are overreacting. Embedding urls into text is standard practice, there even is a tab for this purpose in the tool-bar. Just hover over the text and you can clearly see the url.

Originally Posted by chinthee

Ray, let's do this. Boon Mee will have to prove the relevancy of Halle Berry's comments to this thread, and absent that, his thread will be deleted as off topic.

This is ridiculous. It is up to the reader to assess the relevance and reliability of quoted text - that's why source and author are important info.
This discussion may sit better in the critique thread.

Originally Posted by stroller

The words of the preacher are far from "politically correct", a better description would be "very controversial" in the political context they are being placed in now. But sure, you (plural) are going to try an' squeeze as much political capital out of this as possible to discredit the "nigga".

The "nigga" has been a member of the church for 20 years and is now claiming ignorant of ever hearing any comments such as these from his friend/pastor ?

Wake Up or go and shoot some more heroin.

Wassa matter Ray? This preacher man got your knickers in a twist?
Drifting sideways on the forum moderation front?

The better response is, what does this guy have to do with Obama?
Is he any more damaging than the NY guv is to Hildabeast?

I don't think so. This smear/countersmear is going to go on for another 4-5 months. Don't the Dems realize they're only bludgeoning themselves?

Originally Posted by BobbyTits

The "nigga" has been a member of the church for 20 years and is now claiming ignorant of ever hearing any comments such as these from his friend/pastor ?

Not sure why you quoted my words to say this as if it addresses anything I posted? And just in case this diversion doesn't work, just add a personal insult, to give your so-called argument more weight, eh?

Originally Posted by BobbyTits

Wake Up or go and shoot some more heroin.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Wassa matter Ray? This preacher man got your knickers in a twist? Drifting sideways on the forum moderation front?

You could answer these questions yourself, if you made the effort to put your beer down and read ray's posts.

Originally Posted by Texpat

This smear/countersmear is going to go on for another 4-5 months. Don't the Dems realize they're only bludgeoning themselves?

Hmm, if the responses in this thread are anything to go by....Booners, bg, Jet and the Tits-guy aren't Dems "bludgeoning themselves".

Originally Posted by chinthee

^^Ok, Ray, for the sake of argument, he labeled that link 'Halle Berry.' What on earth could possibly be a legitimate website with that name? Her official fansite? Is that your position?

Disguising a source is calling it something that it is not. He called it Halle Berry. That blog contained a quote from Halle Berry. I'm afraid I don't follow your vehement objections to this. What should he have called it? "Halle Berry's comments as quoted on a far right wing nutcase blog?"

Please clarify.

Perhaps ray can clarify the statements outlined within the following link with more ease?
NEWSEUM: The Commissar Vanishes

Obamarama has seemenly airbrushed out the pic of his 'pastor' on his Obamarama web site.

Before & after screen shot:



Thanks to LGF

^ Well, hardly surprising booner. I still think it's a storm in a teacup, but it's how it effects the vote that counts. Things are a bit different stateside.

^ The peoples vote will decide that.

Personally, I think you're paying rather short shrift to a summa cum laude Harvard grad. Then again, he is a Dem.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I saw Desmond Tutu give a speech in Tokyo many years ago. Basically, he said all whites are evil.

nonsense. i'm calling bullshit on this one.

i'm sure your own racist ideology and agenda wanted to hear that, but i have absolutely no doubt that he didn't say anything of the kind....even taking into account the very slippery "basically".

I was there and you weren't. It was the first time I heard racist remarks and it shocked me. Guess Tutu figured the Jpn audience would side with him against the evil Westerners, remembering the A-bombs and all. Unfortunately, the audience response was tepid at best as he knew not that the Jpn follow haragei. Go look that up, Ray.

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by BobbyTits

The "nigga" has been a member of the church for 20 years and is now claiming ignorant of ever hearing any comments such as these from his friend/pastor ?

Not sure why you quoted my words to say this as if it addresses anything I posted? And just in case this diversion doesn't work, just add a personal insult, to give your so-called argument more weight, eh?

Originally Posted by BobbyTits

Wake Up or go and shoot some more heroin.

So called argument ?

Not a very bright junkie are you .........

And there I was hoping you'd have enough brainpower to realise you weren't addressing my points before after I questioned your 'argument', or that perhaps you'd have something other than the same lame insult to contribute?

Oh well, tits another moronic douchebag...

Originally Posted by stroller

And there I was hoping you'd have enough brainpower to realise you weren't addressing my points before after I questioned your 'argument', or that perhaps you'd have something other than the same lame insult to contribute?

Oh well, tits another moronic douchebag...

There is no argument , maybe you could realize that in between nodding off.

So Obama's preacher is just an old cranky uncle in the corner that says strange stuff, eh?

Seventy-three percent (73%) of voters say that Wright’s comments are racially divisive. That opinion is held by 77% of White voters and 58% of African-American voters.

Most voters, 56%, said Wright’s comments made them less likely to vote for Obama. That figure includes 44% of Democrats. Just 11% of voters say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of Wright’s comments.

However, among African-Americans, 29% said Wright’s comments made them more likely to support Obama. Just 18% said the opposite while 50% said Wright’s comments would have no impact.

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

If there are 23% of whites who think that Wright's words are not racially divisive, we're fucked...

Awesome debate but the sad truth is if Obama wins the White House someone will shoot him!

Originally Posted by Milkman

But yeah, it will cause some whites on the fence to shift, perhaps. But with Obama in the delegate lead, do Hillary have a chance at being an alternative, or will it be McCain? I have no idea at this point, and there is 4.5 months to the convention and 7.5 months to the election.

AW YES, but you seem to have forgotten the new and uncontrolled "Super delegates" who can do as they please.

Originally Posted by Carnwadrick

Awesome debate but the sad truth is if Obama wins the White House someone will shoot him!

Yea, and I think that you are correct in that assumption.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by Milkman

But yeah, it will cause some whites on the fence to shift, perhaps. But with Obama in the delegate lead, do Hillary have a chance at being an alternative, or will it be McCain? I have no idea at this point, and there is 4.5 months to the convention and 7.5 months to the election.

AW YES, but you seem to have forgotten the new and uncontrolled "Super delegates" who can do as they please.

I am assuming, perhaps incorrectly that they will follow the voters in the districts and precincts.

Otherwise there will be a major problem and fraction in the party.

^ Nope, they say that they can do as they please and do not have to go the old route, seems a way to get around the caucuses.

Originally Posted by blackgang

^ Nope, they say that they can do as they please and do not have to go the old route, seems a way to get around the caucuses.

True.

They can cast a delegate for whoever they want at the convention.

It's like a backroom deal. I see division, though.

well then thats good, they are fucked up anyway, silly assholes, and it don't make a fiddlers fuck who get elected anyway, you are fucked by a Lawyer/poiltician either way you still got a liar and a crook for a prez.

Originally Posted by Milkman

It's like a backroom deal. I see division, though.

"Democracy", eh?

Originally Posted by stroller

"Democracy", eh?

Well, it's demonstrably better than the dreaded Socialism, eh?

Venezuela is a democracy, the US isn't.