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    Belief in Conspiracy

    Belief in Conspiracy Theories in the United States

    Believers in conspiracy theories are usually written off immediately as weirdos and idiots, but as a new survey by YouGov for Statista reveals, in some cases, these are actually widely-held beliefs and far from the bizarre, fringe opinion that you might have come to expect.

    According to the survey, one of the most commonly believed conspiracy theories among U.S. adults is that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone in the assassination of JFK - 47 percent believe either strongly or somewhat that there was in fact another shooter behind the grassy knoll. President Trump's oft-touted theory of the "deep state" has also to a fair degree made it into common discourse, with 29 percent believing it to some extent.

    Meanwhile, what might be considered as the 'mother of all conspiracy theories' - that the 1969 moon landing was faked - seems to have fallen out of favour, with only 11 percent getting behind the idea 50 years on.



    https://www.statista.com/chart/18196...united-states/

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    ^It's America. More than 50% of Americans believe in God so selling them things like 9/11 being an inside job is way too easy.

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    ^^The climate change number is a bit puzzling/unclear.

    I would have thought the number of climate change doubters/deniers would be higher but I did not think many people actually considered it to be an intentional 'hoax'.

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    ^^So HW, you believed the Iraq had WMD story too? Both that and the official 9/11 narrative were authored by the same entities. In fact the 9/11 narrative is a conspiracy theory itself. A theory never proven by any real and substantial investigation. The who done it and how were established the day of the event...by those with axes to grind and an agenda to advance.

    Excuse me for not blindly accepting what I'm told by officially accepted and approved sources. i.e. corporate media outlets parroting press releases given to them by govt. insiders with an agenda...no fact checking to be found.

    Look into who popularized the term "conspiracy theorist" as a disparaging weapon to be wielded against those asking inconvenient questions.

    Nothing personal against you HW, just something I wanted to get off my chest. Been hearing that same thing for years, from many different directions. Not just online in forums.

    Over my lifetime the establishment of my society has proven themselves, to me, to be prolific liars. Why should I any longer accept what I'm told by them without question?

    The Bay of Pigs debacle, the JFK assassination, the Gulf of Tonkin fiction and the USS Liberty incident all occured within the first 8 years of my life and it became worse from there on out.

    But anyway, you still do great food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    ^It's America. More than 50% of Americans believe in God so selling them things like 9/11 being an inside job is way too easy.
    more like selling them the official 9/11 story was too easy, and that Saddam was partially responsible for it, hence why he had WMDs and should be attacked

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    white , fat , over 50 , american

    vs white , humungous , over 50 , belgian , leaking sperm from every oriface

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    I like the Rh- theory

    aliens or incest��

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    ^^So HW, you believed the Iraq had WMD story too? Both that and the official 9/11 narrative were authored by the same entities. In fact the 9/11 narrative is a conspiracy theory itself. A theory never proven by any real and substantial investigation. The who done it and how were established the day of the event...by those with axes to grind and an agenda to advance.

    Excuse me for not blindly accepting what I'm told by officially accepted and approved sources. i.e. corporate media outlets parroting press releases given to them by govt. insiders with an agenda...no fact checking to be found.

    Look into who popularized the term "conspiracy theorist" as a disparaging weapon to be wielded against those asking inconvenient questions.

    Nothing personal against you HW, just something I wanted to get off my chest. Been hearing that same thing for years, from many different directions. Not just online in forums.

    Over my lifetime the establishment of my society has proven themselves, to me, to be prolific liars. Why should I any longer accept what I'm told by them without question?

    The Bay of Pigs debacle, the JFK assassination, the Gulf of Tonkin fiction and the USS Liberty incident all occured within the first 8 years of my life and it became worse from there on out.

    But anyway, you still do great food.
    Well said!!
    They wield the "conspiracy theorist" as a weapon to belittle and dismiss. And though some theories are wacky, others I am sure are true or have an element of truth, as you said its not like they have not lied before.
    How does the old saying go? "even paranoids have real enemies"
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Well said!!
    They wield the "conspiracy theorist" as a weapon to belittle and dismiss. And though some theories are wacky, others I am sure are true or have an element of truth, as you said its not like they have not lied before.
    How does the old saying go? "even paranoids have real enemies"
    There seems to be some misunderstanding here, so let me summarise what Headworx meant:

    Americans are fucking mental and anything is possible with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    There seems to be some misunderstanding here, so let me summarise what Headworx meant:

    Americans are fucking mental and anything is possible with them.
    why do I care what Headworx meant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    why do I care what Headworx meant?
    Did I say you should?

    The 2nd line of my post says all you need to "care about."

    And if you don't wanna care about that, I don't give a fuck.

    How does that float your boat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    More than 50% of Americans believe in God so selling them things like 9/11 being an inside job is way too easy.
    Lets reword that to reflect reality:

    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    More than 50% of Americans believe in God so selling them things like 9/11 being an al Qaeda job is way too easy.

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    As for the #1 "conspiracy theory" in the OP, read some of these recently declassified documents:

    JFK Assassination Records - 2018 Additional Documents Release
    https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release

    and this book:



    then tell me the story again about how we were told the full truth and nothing but the truth by the Warren Commission. Lying bastards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Excuse me for not blindly accepting what I'm told by officially accepted and approved sources.
    But I'll go out on a limb and say you believe in the Bible right?. God must be real because it's officially accepted by the majority of Americans and there's even a book written about it by approved sources with highly persuading facts like a fucking boat that carried 2 of every living being on Earth (must have been a seriously big boat) then neatly distributed them all back to their unique continents once the floods ebbed. A logistical nightmare for pick-ups / drop-offs and ripe for inbred species all dying out in no time but no, it's in the Bible so it must have happened. Sounds legit...

    If people can be sold that fantasy, and they have been in HUGE numbers for a very long time, then there's no end to what they'll believe. I'll believe what I want to believe based on numerous things that don't involve blind faith or fashioning a hat out of tinfoil, you're free to do exactly the same or exactly the opposite. And that's my point.
    Last edited by Headworx; 10-06-2019 at 06:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    But I'll go out on a limb and say you believe in the Bible right
    I'll go out on another limb and guess you're right.

    The East Coast and the West Coast together with the cities inbetween are generally on the ball.

    The rest of em are fucking mental Chriistian oddballs.

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    There's a marked difference between a healthy skepticism about what the government is telling you and going off on wild goose-chases and looking for patterns and things that simply aren't there, employing logic gymnastics, confirmation biases, and other logical fallacies to make everything 'fit' your narrative -- and it's this latter pattern that so many conspiracy theorists fall into.

    And from my own experience, why is it that so many conspiracy theorists will bend over backwards to prove there's some unseen forces at work -- which also invariably devolve to 'it woz the Joos wot dun it!' -- yet ignore actual conspiracies right in front of their face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    And from my own experience, why is it that so many conspiracy theorists will bend over backwards to prove there's some unseen forces at work -- which also invariably devolve to 'it woz the Joos wot dun it!' -- yet ignore actual conspiracies right in front of their face.
    Your post have been reported to the Illuminati.

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    What if I'm actually a member of the Illuminati and I posted that to discredit anyone on our trail..??

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    ^Mock the Illuminati at your own peril, I read they're real.

    Edit to add: There's people on YouTube who say they're real too, so they are real.

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    Why not to believe them, even if they lie so often to us?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith View Post
    ^Your logic is a bit suspect.

    Group A has been caught lying, therefore Group A lies all the time.

    Group B opposes Group A all the time, therefore Group B tells the truth all the time.

    This is a fallacious argument.

    Yes, we are lied to. Just because someone tells us that, it doesn't mean they are telling us the truth about things, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx
    Mock the Illuminati at your own peril, I read they're real.

    Edit to add: There's people on YouTube who say they're real too, so they are real.
    List of Illuminati Targeted Assassinations Of Those Outing Our Existence:

    1. Headworx

















    Fuck, me Illuminati invisible ink didn't work again.


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    A lot of history has been air-brushed by a compliant media since the 50's. Eisenhower's resignation speech warned of the cancer-like "military-industrial complex" threatening liberty in the US. Basically a cabal of bankers, industrialists, military, and politicians, with old ties to Europe.


    Eisenhower warned incoming President JFK about this, and JFK also promised to rid the US Govt of "secret societies", and promptly sacked CIA chief Allan Dulles, basically signing his own death warrant in the process.
    These very few people (the Illuminati, or Illuminated ones, as they refer to themselves) have been a lot more overt since JFK was removed. Stated intentions for 'regime change' (Bush Snr's famous "New World Order" speech on September 11, 1990), around the world to remove (elected, or not) non-compliant governments. Creating false-flag terrorism domestically and abroad to steam-roller through huge bills to limit citizen's rights, and continue the "war on terror" anywhere they like, -with popular support.
    Illegal military campaigns overseas have continued apace, sometimes funded by illicit funds from corrupt banks (BCCI), and even drug-running operations. It doesn't matter who the elected POTUS happens to be, regime change programs overseas continue Clinton-Balkans, Bush Jr-Afghanistan; Iraq, Obama-Libya, Yemen, Trump-N.Korea, Iran). There is a long history which is not secret: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._regime_change

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    The Illuminati: powerful enough to control and influence world events and stage events requiring the complicity of hundreds (if not thousands)...







    ...can't stop some randoms with an Internet connection from unearthing and exposing their dastardly plots.

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    JFK - why to bother with impeachment?

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    I thought our glorious leaders couldn't find WMD in Iraq because they weren't any there to find, yet they knew SH had them because in friendlier days they gave him some and looked the other way when he topped up.

    Strange world we live in, maybe he moved them into Syria.

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