Thread: Be a soldier and never see a war?

Originally Posted by bsnub

I was stationed in Germany during the first gulf war.

So that's how you left the Country.

Didn't think it would be off your own bat.

Thailand is still there snubby. Just a plane ride away...

you can't believe any words of bsnub, like Trump, he is a pathological liar

he wasn't even born in the first golf war, he is a GenY slobby MF working slave wage in a warehouse for Amazon,

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

So that's how you left the Country.

No fuckwit I lived in Europe on more than one occasion that would have been the second time. So how long do you plan on stalking me across the forum? You really have tried to bury your head up my ass you creepy little troll.

Originally Posted by bsnub

No fuckwit I lived in Europe on more than one occasion that would have been the second time. So how long do you plan on stalking me across the forum? You really have tried to bury your head up my ass you creepy little troll.

did you drive there with your TELSA?

Indeed they did deliberately target civilian infrastructure . Dokan dam where I was interned as human shield was targeted. They took out the electric transformers and ancillary equipment. Eye witnesses reported two planes one with laser targeting the other with the ordnance. FortyI had already been released mid December.

Well, for my part.

I served with the USN ‘78-’84. Gator freighter, marine amphibious assault, expeditionary forces, tours in Beirut and the Contra-Sandinista “training exercises”.

Was in Italy when the Brigadas Rojas (The Red Brigade) were at their best. When they kidnapped General Dossier. The entire AFI and NATO forces under full alert and lockdown. The Italian Secret Service did, fortunately, mange to find him, General Dossier in Verona and release him before he was executed.

Was in Beirut when the blew the US Embassy and wiped out our entire CIA cell. When the blew the French barracks. We had two full surgical units on our vessel so we took all the casualties and wounded. We were a floating mortuary.

Beirut was an enigma. In the bombed out city the civilians went about life, during the day, as if nothing was going on. At nightfall they disappeared into their basements and prayed. Trails of tracer fire, rockets, bombs, and firefights were the order of nightfall. Not one single night that I was there was there any semblance of peace or any quiet.


So, now I am ex-military, VFW. In the states I was one of the folk selling poppies at the grocery stores. The MOC, we are the ones who bring the entertainment to the hospitalized Vets. Even managed to arrange escorted fishing trips for some of the physically and mentally able Vets. Go ahead, spend some time at a VA Hospital or a state-run “Old Soldiers Home”. See the real casualties of combat.

You can easily understand the physical damage, the wheelchair bound, the amputees. What is so much harder to understand is the mental damage. A fully physical fit man who “cowers” in a corner. The ones (you can’t really observe them) but they are there, who are strapped into their beds, doped up so they won’t harm themselves, or others. The nurses who care for these folk, they do it out of compassion because there just ain’t enough money in the world to compensate them for what they endure.

There is no place in the civilized world for Combat.

Originally Posted by Lostandfound

Dokan dam where I was interned as human shield

Now THAT needs an explanation! Wow. Tell us more.
Doff my hat to you.

^And to you Bowie.
Blame your government and the lobbyists that pay them.

I was a passenger on BA149 London to KL. The flight had a scheduled refueling stop in Kuwait. Other airlines had diverted. Except BA was carrying UK military and landed right into a war. We were bombed at airport by Mirage planes before artillery incoming. Eventually interned at Kuwait hotel then to Baghdad and onto strategic sites as human shield hostages. 131 days total. The guards were a bit cnutish (mock execution bs) but Im still in touch with the resident engineer of thevdam who did a lot to help us. I had dinner with himand his family in Sydney earlier this year. They’re now settled as refugees being Assyrian Christians. Lovely people.

I went back and cycled across N Iraq in 2011, ironically during the Arab Spring! Thread here


https://teakdoor.com/travel-the-world...q-holiday.html (NE Iraq holiday)

Originally Posted by bowie

There is no place in the civilized world for Combat.

They made a wasteland and called it peace.

- Tacitus - A.D 55-120

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Blame your government and the lobbyists that pay them.

No, Combat is a lot fuckin simpler than that - you blame the fuckers that are shooting at you

Well, Norton,

Congratulations on making it home, hopefully in one piece and unscathed. May the rest of your days on this earth bring you much deserved peace and comfort.

Originally Posted by bsnub

No fuckwit I lived in Europe on more than one occasion that would have been the second time. So how long do you plan on stalking me across the forum? You really have tried to bury your head up my ass you creepy little troll.

I'm calling bullshit on that.

You have never left the USA.

You little snowflake

All war is insane.
You don't see politicians and war mongerers putting their kids in the front line.

16 years, most of the 80's in NI ......See my response to the Lion King thread .... Just about sums up my mental health ..... Pathetic piece of shit that I am..

I did see a statistic that said since 1960 more Australians have been killed on Construction sites than all the Australian military personnel killed in Vietnam and all wars after. The point made it is actually safer in the Australian military than a construction site.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

All war is insane.
You don't see politicians and war mongerers putting their kids in the front line.

You did in WW1.

Then you have those politicians that survived WW1. Awesome strength of character that produced good and bad.

I think those actively involved in conflict, almost since conflict began and if they are lucky enough to live will have their own opinion on the conflict - my view is this:

if you weren't there then you haven't earned the right to stand face to face with them and tell them how futile the conflict was or the loss of life of their mates or even their enemies they faced was. Just my view.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

You don't see politicians and war mongerers putting their kids in the front line.

Although not a Senator's son, I met a young man in VN that became one.

https://www.va.gov/health/newsfeatures/2015/february/list-of-presidents-who-were-veterans.asp

Twenty-six of the US’s 44 Presidents served in the military.


https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...y-the-numbers/

Veterans in the 116th Congress, by the numbers
The final results leave the total number of lawmakers with military experience for next year’s session at 96, down six from the start of the last congressional session. It’s another decrease in veteran representation in Congress, a figure that has declined steadily since the mid-1970s.

At that time, the years following the Vietnam War, nearly three-fourths of lawmakers had served in the military. The 116th session will open with less than 18 percent of Congress boasting first-hand familiarity with the military.

Originally Posted by bowie

It’s another decrease in veteran representation in Congress, a figure that has declined steadily since the mid-1970s.

Being the draft was ended in 1973 an expected outcome.

Originally Posted by Norton

Being the draft was ended in 1973 an expected outcome.

Fortunate Sons don't get drafted, they get deferments.

Or a gig in the national guard.
Or bone spurs.

10 years in the army 80-1989. It was all pretty quiet except for 3 years on the East German border.