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    Oh, FFS ... UK schoolgirl who fled to join Islamic State 'wants to return home to Eng


    Amira Abase, Kadiza Sultana and Shamima Begum, left to right, at Gatwick Airport

    One of three teenage schoolgirls who fled the UK to join Islamic State (IS) in Syria says she has no regrets about joining the group, but wants to return home to England to give birth to her baby.

    Key points:

    • Shamima Begum fled the UK for Syria in 2015 with two of her fellow schoolmates
    • The 19-year-old said at least one of the teens she travelled with is now dead
    • Ms Begum said her schoolmates "would be ashamed of [her]" decision to leave Syria


    Shamima Begum, now 19 years old, flew to Turkey from London's Gatwick Airport along with Amira Abase, 15, and Kadiza Sultana, 16, in February 2015, after the group told their parents they were going out for the day.

    How is a 15 yo allowed to leave the country?

    After touching down in Turkey, the group crossed the border into Syria.
    All three of the girls had attended Bethnal Green Academy, a school in east London.
    It is believed they followed a classmate who left a few months earlier, prompting questions about how authorities failed to prevent the girls from leaving the country.

    Ms Begum, who was tracked down in a refugee camp in Syria by The Times, told the publication she fled the last IS enclave in Baghuz, eastern Syria, two weeks ago, as she had tired of life on the battlefield and feared for her unborn child's safety.


    The 19-year-old, who is nine months pregnant, said she had two other children who both died.

    After arriving in Raqqa in 2015, the trio of schoolgirls stayed at a house with other IS brides-to-be, Ms Begum told The Times.
    Just 10 days later, the then-15-year-old married a 27-year-old Dutch man who had converted to Islam.

    She said Ms Sultana and Ms Abase also married foreign IS fighters around the same time.
    She told The Times that life with IS alternated between the everyday and extreme horrors, but insisted witnessing shocking sights did not affect her: "Mostly it was a normal life in Raqqa, every now and then bombing and stuff."

    "When I saw my first severed head in a bin it didn't phase me at all."

    "It was from a captured fighter seized on a battlefield, an enemy of Islam."
    After claiming she "[does not] regret coming [to Syria]", Ms Begum said the deaths of her one-year-old daughter and three-month-old son from malnutrition and illness in recent months prompted her to flee the war-torn country with her husband.


    According to The Times, the pair escaped IS and started off on a journey along a three-mile corridor to the east of Baghuz.
    While travelling, Ms Begum said her husband was forced to surrender to a group of Syrian fighters working with the Syrian Democratic Forces. She claimed not to have seen him since.

    Asked about the fellow Bethnal Green Academy students she fled the UK with, the teenager said Ms Sultana died in a bombing, and added she did not know the fate of Ms Abase, though she believed she remained in the final IS stronghold.

    Speaking of the IS brides who stayed behind, she told The Times: "They were strong... I respect their decision".
    "They urged patience and endurance in the caliphate and chose to stay behind in Baghuz," she said.
    "They would be ashamed of me if they survived the bombing and battle to learn that I had left."

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    Yep ... she seems a fine, upstanding citizen who should be allowed back into the country ... NOT

    BTW, good luck finding a carrier willing to take a 9 month pregnant woman.
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    She'll claim her baby's human rights are being violated and allowed in. Twaz talked about today on BBC news.

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    How the UK is dealing with returned IS brides

    Speaking to The Guardian in the wake of the news Ms Begum was still alive, a lawyer for the teen's family said she should be able to return to the UK.

    Suggesting counter-terrorism officials should consider affording her victim status, lawyer Tasnime Akunjee told the publication: "I am really grateful she is alive".


    "She has suffered trauma and I hope that she can come back and put this behind her.
    Anyone who has lost two children will need a lot of help," she said.

    While officials are clear they do not wish those who fled the UK to fight for IS to return home, the question of what should happen to IS brides and their dependents is not as distinct.



    Shamima Begum insisted the violence she witnessed with IS did not phase her.

    Scotland Yard, the headquarters for the UK's Metropolitan Police Service, was reported to have investigated whether Ms Begum engaged in activity that could make her a danger to the country, or that she could be charged with.


    Independent of this, Home Secretary Sajid Javid was expected to weigh in on whether Ms Begum should have the right to return to the UK, along with intelligence agencies MI5 and MI6 and counter-terrorism police, who were anticipated to conduct further investigations into potential dangers Ms Begum could pose to the UK.


    If UK officials decide to treat Ms Begum as a victim, she could be eligible for consular assistance and potentially removed from the Syrian refugee camp she was found in, The Guardian reported.
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    The Times and The Sunday Times

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    poof and just like that....

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    She should be denied entry to Britain (and the EU) to set an example.
    It's a bit sad though because, as a naive 15 year old she was manipulated by propaganda videos.
    Hopefully she will be willing to reveal any information she may wittingly or unwittingly hold about ISIS. That, in fact, may be behind Brit officials letting her back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    That, in fact, may be behind Brit officials letting her back in.
    The reason they'll let her back in is cuz the baby will have British nationality and it's human rights will be violated if separated from the mother.

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    They should use this as a test and heavily fine the company hosting the site she got hooked by...set an example - and help pay for the fukin years of surveillance the tax payers are going to have to fork out for..better still just tell the stupid bitch she can cough to one of her favoured middle east countries.
    Bsnub: I am so much smarter than you. :} I have a work laptop and also use other cloud tools to do my job. I was physically in the office on 01/04/19.

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    She has already shown her atrocious lack of humanity by how she described seeing an opposition fighters head in a bin. Whatever she was once she is now a blight on human society and belongs in the trash. Leave her there.

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    A very appropriate response in my opinion.

    Also a long winded way of say "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Fuck off".

    The security minister has ruled out launching a rescue mission to Syria after an east London schoolgirl declared that she wanted to return to the UK four years after she joined Islamic State.

    Ben Wallace said he would not put British lives at risk to "go and look for terrorists or former terrorists", adding that "actions have consequences".
    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/u...scued-13999185

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    She has already shown her atrocious lack of humanity by how she described seeing an opposition fighters head in a bin. Whatever she was once she is now a blight on human society and belongs in the trash. Leave her there.
    hav to agree with you H.C, let her stay where she has fucked to her hearts content,2 kids dead,another ready to come out of the oven,i bet her parents must be proud of her being a,L.B.F.M.but to let her + kid back into the uk.so that she can claim all the benefits while she keeps fking some other benefit scroungers.
    suffered trauma seeing heads in trash bins.
    what about all the brits.who were murdered by her accomplice's are their families goner welcome her back.i don't think so.

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    She will be allowed back into the UK. She just has to make her own way there first. And she'll likely get a nie cup of tea from Special Branch upon her arrival at Heathrow or Gatwick.

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    We're talking one woman here. There are hundreds of them, all nationalities, back in Syria.

    Up to 1,700 French nationals are thought to have travelled to Iraq and Syria to fight with the IS group between 2014-2018, according to French government figures.
    The problem seems to be that the US is pulling out of Syria. https://www.france24.com/en/20190129...ump-us-pullout

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    She still a British subject? There was talk of cancelling nationality years ago for those who joined IS, or was that in Germany, can't recall it now?

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    The UK will not make a British citizen stateless. So unless she has dual citizenship, the UK will not cancel her citizenship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Solid View Post
    Different story if she was one of your daughters.
    different story yes,if the parents are not muslims.
    them that leave home to become suicide bombers don't have loving parents.

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    Must have been Germany then. The argument being that they chose to join a different state/nationality which seeks recognition & is an enemy of Germany, hence no more allegiance to the German state - citizenship cancelled.
    Not sure it came into effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Solid View Post
    Believe in second chances.
    anyone that goes out to kill innocent people,DONT DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE.
    don't forget she had 2babies that ended up in trash bins,i wonder did they get a CHANCE OF LIFE or were they born female's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    different story yes,if the parents are not muslims.
    them that leave home to become suicide bombers don't have loving parents.
    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    anyone that goes out to kill innocent people,DONT DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE.
    don't forget she had 2babies that ended up in trash bins,i wonder did they get a CHANCE OF LIFE or were they born female's.
    You're clearly not a happy chap, with all that bile oozing out of addled brain.

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    i must be one of them that take life TOO seriously,thus me unnecessary stress and worry,you have to ask yourselves,where were the parents when she packed her bags and left without as much as a goodby,how did a 15yr.old girl was allowed to leave GB.without any questions asked and not alone either.did she and the others with her have any
    compassion for their parents when they sat with them for their last meal together.
    I have had enough greif for this yr.with our beloved pet dog,but for normal families to find out their daughters have left home after 15yrs.of love,to go and help fight and kill them that have done them no harm to them,is behond COMPASSION.

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    While I think she should be made an example of, a sort of collateral damage casualty left to her own devices outside the UK (for the greater good), I think people should spare a thought for the innocent baby to come, and also consider had she been white and the victim of a modern day Westboro Baptist type loon modern day Charles Manson propagandist manipulator and not a dark skinned Muslim, people would be thinking she's the victim not the baddie.

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    A book or media company will pull her out in return for an exclusive story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Solid View Post
    and the hare is running @ hackney
    you seem to know abit about me,i had one at hackney and walthamstow in the early 80's.

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    what was the punishment for treason.
    for me its,my pension is frozen and never to return.

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