Thread: 2020 US Presidential Race

people never learn, put Elizabeth Warren, the hysterical old hag, in the race, and Trump will win in a landslide

President Donald Trump revived the greatest political show on Earth on Tuesday night. Swimming in nostalgia, Trump played all the old hits. He bashed Hillary Clinton, jabbed the "fake news," invoked fear over immigrants and marveled at the glory over his shock election win.
He partied like it was 2016.

Holding forth from the pounding heart of a rapturous crowd, the President spelled out a defiant, demagogic, fact-blurring record of promises kept that could win him reelection.

But Trump's ceremonial 2020 campaign launch rally also reverberated with the unity-shredding grievances that threaten to whip up equal fervor against him and could make him a one-term President.

The rally, in a cacophonous Florida arena, and the first Democratic debates next week will lift the nascent 2020 campaign to a new level of intensity that will clarify a fateful choice that voters must make about the most disruptive, unconventional President in American history.

For a few moments Tuesday, it sounded like Trump might ditch his trash-talking after channeling Ronald Reagan's classic "Morning in America" reelection mantra -- are you better off now than you were four years ago?

"Our country is more thriving, prospering and booming and truly it is soaring to new heights," Trump said, claiming stewardship of "perhaps the greatest economy" in US history and millions of new jobs, roaring manufacturing and rising wages.

He was coining the best argument he has to make for staying in his job.

But soaring rhetoric fast dissolved into searing attacks, signaling that Trump believes that the scorched-earth campaign that won him the White House will send him back there.

"We did it once, now we will do it again and this time we are going to finish the job," Trump vowed, gripping the presidential podium with his left hand, and conducting his sing-song delivery with his right hand waving in the air.

Trump torched the media, conjured cataclysmic imagery of "criminal" immigrants, issued harangues against elite insiders rigging the system and slammed "ruinous trade" deals.

He vowed to find Clinton's emails, accused Democrats of "destroying the country." He claimed he "won" with special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia report and falsely said Democrats are "ripping" babies from their mothers' wombs.

His assaults were typical of the base-pleasing strategy from which Trump has never diverted during a turbulent two-and-a-half years in office and makes the root of his appeal.

Earlier, there was a taste of the character assassination to come when Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr. warmed up the crowd by accusing Democratic frontrunner Joe Biden of "groping" and mocked the cancer moonshot of a man whose son died of the disease.

Prosperity and security

But the President leavened the bile with a more conventional approach, seeking to draw in wavering mainstream Republicans and independents left uncomfortable by his populist, nationalist creed. He built an argument rooted in prosperity and security, noting his scores of judicial appointments, two new Supreme Court justices and attempts to fight opioid addiction.

He feted his shift of the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, lauded his withdrawal from the "disastrous" Iran deal, despite boiling tensions some fear could erupt into war with Tehran.

Hitting a political note that will resonate in swing state Florida, Trump vowed to fight for freedom in Cuba and Venezuela, and said America must always put its own people first.

He also celebrated his support of the Second Amendment, promised to back research to cross new medical frontiers, to cure HIV/AIDS and to put American astronauts on Mars.

Often, a President starting the march to reelection looks rusty after months waging Washington duels and West Wing crises, like a rock star who takes a while to hit his highest notes.

Not Trump.

After all, he never left the road to come up with new material and has ground out 50 campaign trail rallies since taking office and runs a permanent campaign on Twitter.

His appearance was a reminder of the unique and often dark political skills that Trump brings to the race. No one on either side can play a crowd like Trump. No Democrat has come near the size of his throng on Tuesday night. And his fervent, loyal flock looks like it is as up for the fight as it was in 2016.

Between applause lines lapped up by the giant crowd, Trump prowled the stage, arms hanging at his sides, like a heavyweight boxer gathering for another punishing combination of punches.

Trump's gamble

But Trump's approach is a a huge risk.

It mirrored his strategy in the 2018 midterm elections that many Republicans blame for scaring suburban women and independent voters and handing Democrats the House.

The President did little Tuesday to answer the questions that Democrats believe will define the election, namely the struggle many Americans have in affording health care, the massive student loan burden and tax cuts they say soaked the rich.

The President only mentioned his most well placed opponent, Biden, in passing on Tuesday night, calling him "sleepy."

But the former vice president's team made their own attempt to define the race, issuing a statement before Trump took to the stage, rooted in his quest to restore America's soul.

"Donald Trump is launching his campaign for reelection and the American people face a choice -- we can make Trump an aberration or let him fundamentally and forever alter the character of this nation," deputy campaign manager Katie Bedingfield said.

Tuesday night's rally could include the seeds of Trump's victory. But he is betting America, having seen what life under the most disruptive President in modern history is like, will welcome a rerun of his polarizing campaign.

Polls more than 500 days before election day are not predictive of the final result. But currently they suggest trouble looming. In most surveys Trump trails Biden by a significant margin, and is also behind other major Democratic candidates.

New Quinnipiac University numbers reveal a potential flaw in Trump's big argument that Americans would be foolish to hand Democrats the White House amid a historic economic expansion.

Fifty-four percent of Florida voters said they are better off financially today than in 2016. But Biden leads Trump 50% to 41% despite those views. Fifty-five percent of independents and 45% of women say they are in better financial shape under the Trump economy. But those groups back Biden by 54% and 58% respectively.

Given Florida's recent presidential election history, it seems unlikely that either candidate will win the crucial state by nine points come November 2020.

But Tuesday night was a sign Trump knows he's in for a fight of his life in a battleground that could decide his fate. And it also shows there's been no erosion in his immense campaign trail skills it will take to win it.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/19/polit...ats/index.html

If you can watch the video the first thing he mentions at 7 seconds in is...

"With every might of sweat and soil"

In Charlottesville...

'Blood and soil': Protesters chant Nazi slogan in Charlottesville

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/ch...lly/index.html

23 seconds in....

https://www.youtube.com/results?searc...nd+soil+chant+

They are not even trying to hide it anymore. Openly Nazi and racist.

The history of

"Sweat and Soil"

as Drumpf puts it aka the Nazi

"Blood and Soil"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_soil


What happened tonight was not a coincidence and I am sure that the speech was written by Nazi scumbag Stephen Miller.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I am sure that the speech was written by Jewish Nazi scumbag Stephen Miller

...there's a contradiction there somewhere...

Originally Posted by tomcat

...there's a contradiction there somewhere...

Ahh yes! You sir are very astute!! I like your style!

Originally Posted by bsnub

Ahh yes! You sir are very astute!! I like your style!

Birds of of a feather flock together.

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Two and a half mins long. It's an overview, not just him rabbiting on.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Birds of of a feather flock together.

Indeed. Ever seen a Trump rally?

Predominantly, overwhelmingly, white and most lacking a college education.

Caw-caw! Aye, Repeater.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Indeed. Ever seen a Trump rally?

Predominantly, overwhelmingly, white and most lacking a college education.

Caw-caw! Aye, Repeater.

indeed, but they represent a majority, if you go to the US, they are everywhere

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

they represent a majority

a majority of poorly educated, bigoted, elderly white males.

21 candidates answering 18 questions on video

1. In an ideal world, would anyone own handguns?
2. Would your focus be improving the Affordable Care Act or replacing it with single payer?
3. Do you think it’s possible for the next president to stop climate change?
4. Do you think Israel meets international standards of human rights?
5. Who is your hero, and why?
6. Would there be American troops in Afghanistan at the end of your first term?
7. How many hours of sleep do you get a night?
8. Do you think illegal immigration is a major problem in the United States?
9. Where would you go on your first international trip as president?
10. Describe the last time you were embarrassed. Why?
11. Do you think President Trump has committed crimes in office?
12. Do you support or oppose the death penalty?
13. Should tech giants like Facebook, Amazon and Google be broken up?
14. Are you open to expanding the size of the Supreme Court?
15. When did your family first arrive in the United States, and how?
16. What is your comfort food on the campaign trail?
17. What do you do to relax?
18. Does anyone deserve to have a billion dollars?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...gtype=Homepage


it's behind their paywall.

Originally Posted by raycarey

a majority of poorly educated, bigoted, elderly white males.

sure, but they are still a majority of the US population, at least a majority that matters for political gains

Originally Posted by raycarey

a majority of poorly educated, bigoted, elderly white males.

Mods!!! Ray is picking on me again.

Originally Posted by raycarey

a majority of educated, big-toed, mature white males.

Originally Posted by Norton

Mods!!! Ray is picking on me again.

Norts, you having trouble finding shoes to fit ... again?

^^

well, you can find solace in the fact that some would argue that 'elderly' is just a state of mind.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

sure, but they are still a majority of the US population, at least a majority that matters for political gains

Yup. Formerly the Republican Party, now the Party of Trump. Pick any topic and they will support the most ignorant and backward position possible. Truly the party of stupid.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

they are still a majority of the US population, at least a majority that matters for political gains

Really?



Depends on what you call old.



Or white.

many of the loons at Trump meeting looked hispanic, and I bet he gets a lot of support from second generation Mexicans

Originally Posted by Humbert

Yup. Formerly the Republican Party, now the Party of Trump. Pick any topic and they will support the most ignorant and backward position possible. Truly the party of stupid.

well it's marketing 101, your customers want something, you deliver what they want

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

and I bet he gets a lot of support from second generation Mexicans

Nope and you could not prove that with facts.

Trump raises $24.8 million for reelection in less than 24 hours, RNC says
Yahoo News DYLAN STABLEFORD Jun 19th 2019 10:41AM

President Trump held a rally in Orlando on Tuesday night billed as the kickoff to his reelection campaign. And according to the Republican National Committee, he received nearly $25 million in contributions in less than a day.

RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel announced Wednesday that Trump raised a “record breaking $24.8M in less than 24 hours for his re-election.”

“The enthusiasm across the country for this President is unmatched and unlike anything we’ve ever seen!” she tweeted.

RNC chief of staff Richard Walters told Yahoo News that the total is a combination of the amount raised by the Trump campaign and Trump Victory, the joint fundraising arm for the campaign and RNC.

The RNC took in $10.8 million from major donors at two fundraising events, while the Trump campaign raised $8 million through a phone drive and about $6 million in online donations. (The average online donation was $44, Walters said.)

Trump’s one-day haul is nearly four times the amount former Vice President Joe Biden raised in the first 24 hours after announcing his 2020 presidential campaign.

Biden took in $6.3 million, the largest first-day total for any of the 2020 Democratic presidential candidates. According to Biden’s campaign, the money was raised from nearly 97,000 individual donors across all 50 states.
campaign in Florida

The former vice president’s campaign raised slightly more in its first 24 hours than former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke ($6.1 million) and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders ($5.9 million).

^ is there any "check and balance"? to what is reported?

They did get a bit specific in detailing the average "on-line" donation of $44.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Nope and you could not prove that with facts.

that jumped out at me too. i took a look around, and couldn't find anything to support or refute it.

Originally Posted by bowie

The RNC took in $10.8 million from major donors at two fundraising events, while the Trump campaign raised $8 million through a phone drive and about $6 million in online donations.

the first 19 million is almost certainly 'post-dated' donations from big donors, and the 6 million figure is inline with what many of the dem candidates raised in their first day after announcing. this 24 million figure in 24 hours is propaganda....and it was probably devised by trump himself.