2020 US Presidential Race

**tomcat** · 06-05-2019, 03:39 PM

...^you can say that again...

**bsnub** · 06-05-2019, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by tomcat

you can say that again...

**RamblinWriter** · 08-05-2019, 11:23 PM

Yeah someone like Yang or possibly Bernie might stand a chance.
I'm not on that Trump Train and I think he's looking at only one-term as president if he keeps going the way he's going.

**Cujo** · 27-05-2019, 06:32 PM

From the no shit Sherlock file.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...erence-experts

Intelligence warnings are growing that Russia will probably meddle in the 2020 elections, but Donald Trump and a powerful Senate ally are downplaying these concerns and not doing enough to thwart interfering, say Russia and cyber experts and key congressional Democrats.

Despite fears that Moscow may seek to influence the 2020 elections by launching cyber attacks, social media disinformation, covert agent operations and other “active measures” as it did in the 2016 election, adequate funding and White House focus to counter any new Russian meddling are lagging, experts and officials say.

America's new voting machines bring new fears of election tampering
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Election security concerns that critics say require more resources and attention include: a paper ballot system to replace or backup electronic voting machines vulnerable to hacking.

Why would he try and stop the Russians meddling when they will meddle in his favour. And the thing is, anyone trying to stop it will be accused of witch-hunt, treason, spying etc.
Trump is very much with the Russians on this one.

**Humbert** · 04-06-2019, 01:54 PM

The problem with Democrats...

**Dragonfly** · 04-06-2019, 02:07 PM

they are going to lose to Trump again, hopeless, they have no message, while Trump and Replicans have

they win on methodology and content, the Democrats have neither

**Cujo** · 04-06-2019, 03:45 PM

They need a candidate for sure.
So far they all seem a bit wacky.
I really couldn't figure out why they ran Hillary last time.
An unlikeable snob.

**harrybarracuda** · 10-06-2019, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Cujo

They need a candidate for sure.
So far they all seem a bit wacky.
I really couldn't figure out why they ran Hillary last time.
An unlikeable snob.

I hope they don't pull the same stunt to get Biden the nomination, although apparently he does have more favourability with the African American community because of his Obama links.

However there is a schism in the Democrats at the moment between old and new.

**Norton** · 10-06-2019, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

However there is a schism in the Democrats at the moment between old and new.

There certainly is and if the schism is is not retified pdq thr Dems are going to take whuppin. Way too many candidates with way too many single agendas.

Folks may say early days but what happens now will influence later days.

**harrybarracuda** · 10-06-2019, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

There certainly is and if the schism is is not retified pdq thr Dems are going to take whuppin. Way too many candidates with way too many single agendas.

Folks may say early days but what happens now will influence later days.

I don't think it's anything unusual, and they have set very clear and fair criteria for what happens come the debates.

The important thing is that they don't try and fix it again. If they do that, you're right, they're doomed to alienate a ton of their own voters again.

**harrybarracuda** · 11-06-2019, 09:46 PM

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**David48atTD** · 12-06-2019, 02:35 AM

Wall Street expects a Trump win in 2020, but a new poll points to a different outcome

It may be time for Wall Street to recalibrate expectations about the 2020 election.

In a survey of institutional investors this spring, more than 70% told RBC Capital Markets they expect President Donald Trump to win a second term in 2020.
But a new national poll of voters today points toward a different outcome.

Key Points

The Quinnipiac Poll showed the top Democratic candidate, former Vice President Joe Biden, leading Trump by a double-digit margin in a potential 2020 matchup.
But it also found that five other Democratic contenders – every one the poll pitted against Trump – leading the president as well.
That strong Democratic edge in potential 2020 contests came despite a slight uptick in Trump’s approval rating and continued satisfaction with the state of the economy.

The Quinnipiac Poll showed the top Democratic candidate, former Vice President Joe Biden, leading Trump by a double-digit margin in a potential 2020 matchup. But it also found that five other Democratic contenders – every one the poll pitted against Trump – leading the president as well.

Biden, who plans to blast Trump in a speech tonight as both politicians campaign in Iowa, held the largest lead, 53%-40%. He built it with decided advantages among women, independents, college educated whites, non-whites, and young voters.

CBNC

**raycarey** · 12-06-2019, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Way too many candidates with way too many single agendas.

Folks may say early days but what happens now will influence later days.

but it really is early days....iowa isn't for 8 months. IMO, the debates this summer and early fall are going to whittle down the candidates to 15-16. i'd be surprised if there were a dozen candidates still active going into NH...and after SC it will be cut down to less than half that.....after super tuesday in early march and there's at most 3 left standing.....and that's 8 months before the general.

the key for the dems is stay focused on the primary objective and unify after the primaries....and i think/hope that's what is going to happen.

**bowie** · 12-06-2019, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

The Quinnipiac Poll showed the top Democratic candidate, former Vice President Joe Biden, leading Trump by a double-digit margin in a potential 2020 matchup. But it also found that five other Democratic contenders – every one the poll pitted against Trump – leading the president as well.

Well, there ya have it, "game-set-match", Game Over, the Dems win in 2020 - the polls are never wrong.

**bsnub** · 12-06-2019, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by bowie

Well, there ya have it, "game-set-match", Game Over, the Dems win in 2020 - the polls are never wrong.

Typical right wing trump supporter. Who here said anything like that?

**bowie** · 12-06-2019, 06:15 PM

uhm... I just did

**harrybarracuda** · 12-06-2019, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by bowie

Well, there ya have it, "game-set-match", Game Over, the Dems win in 2020 - the polls are never wrong.

Well they're not. For the umpteenth time for the stupid, Clinton was bang on the money as far as the national vote was concerned.

But there isn't an election now, is there?

**raycarey** · 13-06-2019, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Warren is also 0% chance of the Oval Office ... even the Democrats don't want her.

uh-oh, newbie dave....

Warren leapfrogs Sanders in pair of 2020 polls

Elizabeth Warren leaped ahead of Bernie Sanders into second place in a pair of Democratic presidential primary polls released Wednesday.

Warren has overtaken Sanders nationally, according to a new Economist/YouGov poll, which puts the Massachusetts senator ahead of her Vermont counterpart 16 percent to 12 percent. Former Vice President Joe Biden still leads all contenders with 26 percent support.

Warren also polls ahead of Sanders in Nevada, where Democrats will caucus next February after the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...-polls-1362107

**harrybarracuda** · 13-06-2019, 12:16 PM

It seems the first mass debates are in two weeks and only 20 have qualified. Which is nice, because there are only 2 x 10 debate places.

Steve Bullock, Mike Gravel and Seth Moulton failed to make the cut.

**David48atTD** · 13-06-2019, 12:23 PM

Hey Ray ... knock yourself out.

Put the house ... nah ... the Farm on Warren.

Be a good chap and show the betting slip on your hard earned

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Warren is also 0% chance of the Oval Office ...

**raycarey** · 13-06-2019, 09:26 PM

today the DNC will release the official list of who qualifies for the first primary debates.

**harrybarracuda** · 13-06-2019, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

today the DNC will release the official list of who qualifies for the first primary debates.

See Post 469.

Added:

The 20 candidates who appear to have qualified, in alphabetical order, are: Senator Michael Bennet of Colorado; former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.; Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey; Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind.; former housing secretary Julián Castro; Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York; former Representative John Delaney of Maryland; Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii; Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York; Senator Kamala Harris of California; former Gov. John Hickenlooper of Colorado; Gov. Jay Inslee of Washington; Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota; former Representative Beto O’Rourke of Texas; Representative Tim Ryan of Ohio; Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont; Representative Eric Swalwell of California; Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts; the self-help author Marianne Williamson; and the former tech executive Andrew Yang.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/13/u...ates-2020.html

**RPETER65** · 14-06-2019, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Well they're not. For the umpteenth time for the stupid, Clinton was bang on the money as far as the national vote was concerned.

But there isn't an election now, is there?

Problem was the national vote is only part of electing a U.S. president,guess that wasn’t taken into consideration.

**AntRobertson** · 14-06-2019, 07:12 AM

Yeah, get more votes and lose the election.

Makes perfect sense.

**harrybarracuda** · 14-06-2019, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Problem was the national vote is only part of electing a U.S. president,guess that wasn’t taken into consideration.

How do you take it into consideration in a straight national poll, you stupid old fool.

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