Thread: American coup in Venezuela

Originally Posted by foobar

Note the Fox News interview with Trump at 4:16min, he's goes completely off message on Iraq/Libya and tells the real truth.

Oh FFS you're not taking that escaped mental patient seriously are you? I doubt he even knows where Venezuela is.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Oh FFS you're not taking that escaped mental patient seriously are you?

So says the guy who slags off Trump at every opportunity....while at the same time deep throating Trump's foreign policy, swallowing the lot and licking his balls clean at every opportunity.

Have you heard of joined up rational thinking, continuity and logic? ...you might want to put your unhinged neurosis on a back burner and try those sometime.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I doubt he even knows where Venezuela is.

Thanks for confirming you didn't watch the video or you would know he lives in South America.

Originally Posted by foobar

So says the guy who slags off Trump at every opportunity....while at the same time deep throating Trump's foreign policy, swallowing the lot and licking his balls clean at every opportunity.

Have you heard of joined up rational thinking, continuity and logic? ...you might want to put your unhinged neurosis on a back burner and try those sometime.

oh you noticed it too, glad I am not alone, Harry is a logic coward, too scared to think for himself

Originally Posted by foobar

So says the guy who slags off Trump at every opportunity....while at the same time deep throating Trump's foreign policy, swallowing the lot and licking his balls clean at every opportunity.

You are a very stupid boy, aren't you?

Baldy orange cunto isn't in charge of this, you fucking moron. He can barely tie his own shoelaces.

If you want to drone on about your queer fantasies, I notice Buttplug has arrived, he probably sniffed your gayness.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Baldy orange cunto isn't in charge of this

You are suggesting that regime change has already taken place in ameristan. Whom should the world accept as the official, democratically elected, leader of the ameristani republic.

Or is it now the norm for all to select and endorse anybody, on a hourly/daily basis, after duly considering the previous daily twats; from the competing grifters?

Originally Posted by OhOh

It was completed in 2016, but never opened. The only regular users were smugglers who managed cheap gas from Venezuela to Colombia at night.

Why don't you read what you post you dumb shit?

Originally Posted by OhOh

You are suggesting that regime change has already taken place in ameristan. Whom should the world accept as the official, democratically elected, leader of the ameristani republic.

Or is it now the norm for all to select and endorse anybody, on a hourly/daily basis, after duly considering the previous daily twats; from the competing grifters?

Why do you persist with this window licking nonsense?

Like all presidents, baldy orange cunto has a team of people telling him what to say on topics about which he knows nothing.

Do you think he wrote his state of the union speech?

I would expect that someone who is used to moronically regurgitating propaganda from others would empathise with his situation.

FAES officers executed a 30-year old opposition activist.



https://elpais.com/internacional/201...65_034807.html

He's not the first.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...maduro-barrios

^same production company as the White Helmets?

Looks like it.

You sell-out corporate shill cvnt.

Originally Posted by The Shining Light

^same production company as the White Helmets?

Looks like it.

You sell-out corporate shill cvnt.

Shouldn't you be watching important Youtube videos?

A very long article based on an academic paper presented at the first international conference of the Emancipatory Rural Politics Initiative (ERPI), held at the International Institute of Social Studies in The Hague, March 17–18, 2018.

From 16th century Spanish Colonisation through to 2017. From extractive colonial practises to recent government attempts to satisfy food supply/distribution/accessibility, rather than the 20th century importation route, managed by entrenched powerful families.

The Politics of Food in Venezuela

"Few countries and political processes have been subject to such scrutiny, yet so generally misunderstood, as Venezuela and the Bolivarian Revolution.¹ This is particularly true today, as the international media paints an image of absolute devastation in the country, wrought by failed policies and government mismanagement. At the same time, the three national elections of 2017 demonstrated a strong show of support for the continuation of the revolution under its current leadership. This seeming paradox, we are told, can only be attributed to government tendencies of co-optation and clientelism, along with a closing of democratic space. Such messages are reproduced many times over, both in the media and in certain intellectual circles.²

A benefit of the intense attention paid to Venezuela is that a recurring narrative can be identified, which goes basically as follows. The central character is Hugo Chávez Frías, a strong-armed political leader who enjoyed the double advantage of personal charisma and high oil prices over the course of his presidency from 1999 through 2012. In 2013, Chávez died, and the following year global oil prices plunged. Amid the perfect storm of the loss of Chávez, the collapse in oil prices, and the government’s misguided policies, Venezuela has steadily slid into a state of economic and political disintegration, with food and other necessities growing scarce, in turn sparking social unrest as people take to the streets. The government, headed by Chávez’s less charismatic successor, Nicolás Maduro, is going to desperate lengths to hang onto power, becoming increasingly authoritarian in the process, while maintaining the populist rhetoric of Chávez’s Bolivarian Revolution.


However, this dominant narrative does not capture the complexities of what is happening in Venezuela today. There are significant holes in the account, which raise important questions: who are “the people” at the center of this analysis? What, if any, are the different impacts of present challenges on various sectors of society? How should the Venezuelan state be understood, and where and how does the role of capital figure? By focusing on the politics of food as a key area in which the country’s broader politics are playing out—particularly by looking at recent shortages and food lines, as well as what have been presented as “food riots”—a multitude of issues can be better understood. Often-ignored matters of race, class, gender, and geography demand special attention."

Much, much, much more at:

https://monthlyreview.org/2018/06/01...-in-venezuela/

Bit out of date there. The politics of food in Venezuela nowadays is that you support the dictator and his cronies or you starve.

Originally Posted by The Shining Light

You sell-out corporate shill cvnt.

Hi Albert !

Paris burns for the 13th week in a row.

Real people, making a real stand, against a real dictator.

Make no mistake, Macron is an EU bitch, who in turn is a US bitch.

The European people are awakening quickly, and en mass. The enemy is the United States, and the people are ready to fight.

Fuck the "Great Satan" - we will die standing, and bring every last one of you cvnts down with us.

Another benevolent civilising mission is in order......

^^ have fun storming the castle.

Originally Posted by The Shining Light

Paris burns for the 13th week in a row.

Real people, making a real stand, against a real dictator.

Make no mistake, Macron is an EU bitch, who in turn is a US bitch.

The European people are awakening quickly, and en mass. The enemy is the United States, and the people are ready to fight.

Fuck the "Great Satan" - we will die standing, and bring every last one of you cvnts down with us.

He's funny ain't he.

The windbag reminds me of...

Italy Saves Europe’s Dignity over US Bullying of Venezuela



"It’s comically ironic. France has now recalled its ambassador from Rome in a mounting row over Italy’s alleged “interference” in French internal political affairs. This is at the same that France and other European states are joining in a brazen campaign by the United States to overthrow the elected president of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro. Irony doesn’t come much thicker than that.

The row between France and Italy is but the latest in a long-running spat between French President Emmanuel Macron and the newly elected coalition government in Rome. The Italian government is an unlikely coalition between the left-leaning Five Star Movement (5SM) and a rightwing party, La Lega (The League).

Both parties are highly critical of the EU establishment and neoliberal capitalist polices which France’s former Rothschild banker-turned-president Macron embodies.

Rome has also slammed France for its responsibility in fomenting massive immigration problems for Europe and Italy in particular through Paris’ criminal military interventions, along with the US and other NATO powers, in the Middle East and North Africa.

Things came to a head this week when it emerged that Italian deputy Prime Minister Luigi Di Maio (and 5SM leader) had met with members of the Yellow Vest protest movement in France. The Yellow Vest movement has been holding nationwide demonstrations for the past 12 weeks protesting against Macron’s economic policies and what they call his elitist style of government. Di Maio and the other Italian deputy premier Matteo Salvini (leader of The League) have been openly supporting the French protesters, whom they identify with as part of a popular revolt across Europe against neoliberal austerity.

Reacting to reports of Italian government contact with the French protesters, France’s Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said it was “outrageous interference” in his country’s internal affairs. The row has further escalated after France recalled its ambassador from Rome. The last time that happened was in 1940 during the Second World War. This is a major breakdown in relations between two of the EU’s founding members.

Here is where the irony descends into farce. France is blustering with rage at Italy’s alleged meddling in its sovereign affairs while at the very same time the French government is party to an international effort led by the US to bring about regime change in Venezuela. The hypocritical arrogance is priceless. This week France and several other EU members, including Germany, Britain, Spain and the Netherlands, announced that they were “recognizing” a self-proclaimed president in Venezuela. Marginal opposition figure Juan Guaido declared himself the “interim president” of the South American country on January 23. There are well-documented links between Guaido and his far-right opposition party to the American CIA. The move to delegitimize the elected president, Nicolas Maduro, has been orchestrated by the Trump administration. It is a blatant illegal regime-change maneuver that violates the UN Charter and international law. Maduro’s socialist government and the nation’s natural oil wealth – the largest known reserves on the planet – are obvious targets for Washington and European capital. Russia, China, Iran, Turkey, as well as some Latin American countries, including Mexico, Nicaragua, Bolivia and Cuba, have rightly denounced the interference in Venezuela’s sovereign affairs. Washington’s demand for Maduro to step down under the threat of US military invasion is a staggering display of imperialist aggression. But the international gangsterism is being indulged by certain European states, primarily France, which are bestowing a veneer of legitimacy to the whole disgraceful business.

Italy is one of the few EU states that has refused to go along with the US-led criminal campaign for regime change in Venezuela. The Italian government reportedly blocked the EU from issuing a joint policy statement calling for the recognition of Guaido as “president” in place of Maduro. Those European powers that are engaging in the Washington’s violation of Venezuela are doing so on their own complicity, not in the name of the EU. Italy’s principled stand, along with Russia and China, in defense of Venezuela’s sovereignty is a commendable adherence to international law. By not allowing the EU to be associated with the US skulduggery, that is a vital setback to Washington’s machinations. Thus, the Italian government has saved the EU from descending into total disrepute. It is bad enough that certain members like France are engaging in the US-led gangsterism against Venezuela, but at least Italy’s blocking action has prevented the EU as a bloc from being complicit. If the fundamental principle of non-interference in the sovereign affairs of nation states is not respected, then the entire system of international law unravels. The principle has been violated many times in recent years, most notably with illegal wars conducted by the US and its NATO partners in the Middle East and North Africa. But the latest episode of regime change in Venezuela is perhaps the most audacious yet. Washington and its European lackeys are intent on abolishing the democratic mandate of President Maduro and the ruling of Venezuela’s Supreme Court.

Washington and its pathetic European accomplices are opening a Pandora Box of global lawlessness if they get away with their criminal bullying of Venezuela. Russia, China, Italy and other nations are essentially holding the line between a semblance of order and unfettered chaos.

We may consider the Italian deputy premier’s contact with French protesters as ill-advised politics. But whatever mistake Italy may have done in that regard, it is negligible compared with the astounding arrogance and criminality of France and other European states in their violation of Venezuela’s sovereignty. The arrogance of France’s reaction to Italy’s alleged interference this week is a spectacle to behold. If anything, Italy deserves applause and respect for exposing the hypocrisy of France and other European would-be Neo-colonialists. A bitter aspect of the irony is this: the French president and others are contemptuous of democracy and international law, not just in Venezuela, but towards their very own people."

https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...venezuela.html

Half of Italy's coalition are populist far right groups like 5Star, that are bigger Putin brown-nosers than you are.

The mere fact that they're in France stirring things up demonstrates more than anything that they will do whatever Putin tells them to.

...on February 1, the Russian official news network RT’s Sputnik website carried an interview with 5 Star Member of Parliament Manlio Di Stefano. He stressed the importance of Italy-Russia cooperation, criticized alleged NATO expansionism, called for greater Italian autonomy in foreign policy, and argued that sanctions against Russia should be eliminated.

More snivelling Putin sycophants. No wonder you're all excited about them.

Clever old Vlad. He can skim his loans payments off the top before he gives what's left to Chavismo.

Venezuela's state-run oil company PDVSA is telling customers of its joint ventures to deposit oil sales proceeds in an account recently opened at Russia's Gazprombank AO, according to sources and an internal document seen by Reuters on Saturday.

PDVSA's move comes after the United States imposed tough, new financial sanctions on Jan. 28 aimed at blocking Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro's access to the country's oil revenue.

Supporters of Venezuelan opposition leader and self-proclaimed interim president Juan Guaido said recently that a fund would be established to accept proceeds from sales of Venezuelan oil.

The United States and dozens of other countries have recognized Guaido as the nation's legitimate head of state. Maduro has denounced Guaido as a U.S. puppet seeking to foment a coup.

Russia's Gazprombank said on Sunday that PDVSA opened accounts with the bank several years ago and has not opened any accounts recently.

"We stress that no new accounts have been opened and the bank does not plan to open any new accounts," Gazprombank said.

PDVSA also has begun pressing its foreign partners holding stakes in joint ventures in its key Orinoco Belt producing area to formally decide whether they will continue with the projects, according to two sources with knowledge of the talks.

The joint venture partners include Norway's Equinor ASA , U.S.-based Chevron Corp and France's Total SA .

"We would like to make formal your knowledge of new banking instructions to make payments in U.S. dollars or euros," wrote PDVSA's finance vice president, Fernando De Quintal, in a letter dated Feb. 8 to the PDVSA unit that supervises its joint ventures.

Even after a first round of financial sanctions in 2017, PDVSA's joint ventures managed to maintain bank accounts in the United States and Europe to receive proceeds from oil sales. They also used correspondent banks in the United States and Europe to shift money to PDVSA's accounts in China.

State-run PDVSA several weeks ago informed customers of the new banking instructions and has begun moving the accounts of its joint ventures, which can export crude separately. The decision was made amid tension with some of its partners, which have withdrawn staff from Caracas since U.S. sanctions were imposed in January.

The sanctions gave U.S. oil companies working in Venezuela, including Chevron and oil service firms Halliburton Co, General Electric Co's Baker Hughes and Schlumberger NV , a deadline to halt all operations in the South American country.

The European Union has encouraged member countries to recognize a new temporary government led by Guaido until new elections can be held. Europe also has said it could impose financial sanctions to bar Maduro from having access to oil revenue coming from the region.

Maduro has overseen an economic collapse in the oil-rich OPEC country that has left many Venezuelans malnourished and struggling to find medicine, sparking the exodus of an estimated 3 million Venezuelans.

Sanctions designed to deprive Maduro of oil revenue have left an armada of loaded oil tankers off Venezuela's coasts that have not been discharged by PDVSA's customers due to payment issues. The bottleneck has caused problems for PDVSA to continue producing and refining oil without imported diluents and components.

PDVSA also ordered its Petrocedeno joint venture with Equinor and Total to halt extra-heavy oil output and upgrading due to a lack of naphtha needed to make the production exportable, as the sanctions prohibit U.S. suppliers of the fuel from exporting to Venezuela.

https://www.dailysabah.com/energy/20...ctions-sources

Given the utterly unsavory track record and human rights catastrophe of American foreign 'interventions' over the last half century I believe, beyond a bit of verbal diarrhea, the US should stay well out of Venezuela. For better or worse, the Chavista government still has the loyalty of most of the population, and the security forces. Most of the international community, too. The self proclaimed new 'President' is a nobody, who was soundly beaten in democratic elections in one of Venezuela's smaller provinces. I'm quite confident the Chav's would win national elections again, and equally confident the US would cry foul, again.

But, but Oil.

Originally Posted by sabang

Given the utterly unsavory track record and human rights catastrophe of American foreign 'interventions' over the last half century I believe, beyond a bit of verbal diarrhea, the US should stay well out of Venezuela. For better or worse, the Chavista government still has the loyalty of most of the population, and the security forces. Most of the international community, too. The self proclaimed new 'President' is a nobody, who was soundly beaten in democratic elections in one of Venezuela's smaller provinces. I'm quite confident the Chav's would win national elections again, and equally confident the US would cry foul, again.

But, but Oil.

Completely ignorant of the facts as usual.

the Chavista government still has the loyalty of most of the population

No it doesn't you moron, they are starving and fleeing the country by the thousands.

and the security forces.

Only the Generals, who Chavismo put in key positions where they can rob the country and the people blind. Don't confuse that with popular support among the troops.

Most of the international community, too.

Wrong again.

the US should stay well out of Venezuela

On that I can only agree. My worry is that someone will show baldy orange cunto "Wag the Dog" and give the orange turd ideas...

You might be surprised how many of those fleeing Venezuela are Colombians, who originally fled their home country because of the widespread repression and violence there.