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    "Freedom Is Slavery"

    This weeks F. William Engdahl newsletter that I receive via email...something other than partisan politics.

    Dear Readers,

    For this installment of my complimentary geopolitical newsletter I want to share a portion of my latest book, Manifest Destiny: Democracy as Cognitive Dissonance. The world today is being increasingly manipulated by NATO-directed mainstream media, often using the new mantra, “fake news,” which but thinly disguises what is becoming an Orwellian censorship unimaginable even a decade ago. Here I take up one of the most insidious and most effective instruments of creating regime change to the advantage of select Western interests, most directly tied to the mega-banks of Wall Street and the military industrial complex those banks control. In the 19th Century an ideology was promoted by certain leading circles around the Adams family and others that the United States of America had a divine mission, a “manifest destiny,” God-given, to spread its dominion over the entire globe. Since the Ronald Reagan presidency, that Manifest Destiny has been advanced through a collection of government-connected NGOs, above all the National Endowment for Democracy and the Soros Open Society Foundations, fostering an insidious form of what is called democracy and in fact is cognitive dissonance. The following taken from the introduction will hopefully make you curious enough to venture buying the entire book.

    I also encourage you to consider making a support contribution at my website, F. William Engdahl, that I am able to continue offering my content for free. Legislation is being debated today in the European Union and in Washington that very soon could eliminate the most important platform of open, free discourse, the unregulated Internet.


    Thank you again for your interest,

    F. William Engdahl
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    F. William Engdahl

    Author’s Introduction

    Freedom is Slavery:
    Destroying Nations in the Name of Democracy

    In 1945, British writer and social critic George Orwell wrote a book titled 1984 on the theme of a fictional totalitarian society. The book, one of the most successful in publishing history, relates the aftermath of an atomic world war in which the world is partitioned into three states. One state, Oceania, whose capital is London, is ruled by an English Socialist Party that has total control over all its citizens, especially over their minds. The central mind-control program used to keep its citizens abject and obedient mind slaves was referred to as “doublethink.”

    In doublethink, subjects were submitted to two contradictory concepts, both of which they must accept as correct simultaneously, termed by psychologists “cognitive dissonance.” So, although Oceania is constantly at war, its citizens act as if there is peace too. The essence of the doublethink is summarized by Orwell at the beginning of the novel:

    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.[1]

    In the following work I chronicle what, in truth, is an adaptation of Orwell’s doublethink which might be termed “democracy as cognitive dissonance.” It’s the chronicle of one of the most destructive and one of the most effective operations by the intelligence services of any modern state, including of that of Stalin’s Soviet Union or even Hitler’s Goebbels-steered Third Reich. It’s the chronicle of a vast project developed by US intelligence services over decades, going back to the May 1968 CIA student strikes that brought down French President Charles de Gaulle, a determined foe of American global domination.

    The Cold War between the countries of NATO and those allied to the Soviet Union lasted nearly a half century. Finally, exhausted and economically in dire straits, the Soviet Union, under Mikhail Gorbachev, raised a white flag of surrender in November 1989, as Moscow let the Berlin Wall fall. The wall had become the symbol of what Winston Churchill, in his famous 1946 Fulton, Missouri–speech, called the Iron Curtain dividing the West--the “Free World” as Washington propaganda was fond of ever repeating--from the communist world dominated by Moscow.

    Outside a small circle of US CIA, State Department, and Pentagon senior officials, together with their allies in select Washington think tanks, such as the American Enterprise Institute or the New York Council on Foreign Relations, what few realized was that Washington was about to unleash the most concerted effort at regime change across the former communist countries of Eastern Europe, Ukraine, and the newly formed Russian Federation itself. The rallying call was the “introduction of US-style democracy, freedom, human rights, a neo-liberal free market.” It was to become a tyranny and in some cases, such as Ukraine, it would be far worse than anything experienced under the Soviet regime.

    The Washington regime-change operations came to be called “color revolutions” because of the distinct Madison Avenue color-logo themes each destabilization brought with it—the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, the Rose Revolution in Georgia, the Green Revolution in Iran, and so forth. Invariably, they targeted any significant nation that stood in the way of what David Rockefeller, in his Memoirs, referred to as a one-world government or Bill Clinton, in the 1990s, referred to by the innocent-sounding term but not-so-innocent process of corporate globalization.[2]

    In truth, what those Washington color revolution regime-change interventions represented was an attempt to replace former communist leaders with handpicked, Washington-corrupted political leaders who would be willing to sell their national crown jewels and their people to select Western financial predators, such as the billionaire speculator George Soros or Western bankers and multinational corporations.


    The Aura of American Power

    Ironically, the greatest challenge confronting Washington, the Pentagon, the CIA, and the powerful military–industrial and banking lobby groups, who control congressmen and presidents with their money, was the end of the active Cold War in late 1989. There was suddenly no “enemy” to justify continued vast US military spending or the existence of NATO.

    James R. Schlesinger, former US defense secretary and later CIA director, described the dilemma: “American policymakers should be quite clear in their own minds that the basis for determining US force structure and military expenditures in the future should not simply be the response to individual threats, but rather that which is needed to maintain the overall aura of American power.”[3]

    At the end of the 1980s, the economy and financial system of the US was in the throes of its deepest crisis since the Great Depression. The largest banks of Wall Street—Citigroup, Bank of America, and others—were technically bankrupt. The deregulation of US Savings & Loan banks had led to a real estate speculation bubble that collapsed in the late 1980s, at the same time as a dramatic fall in world oil prices led to waves of bankruptcies across the US domestic oil industry.

    To demand that US taxpayers continue to waste hundreds of billions of their tax dollars on high levels of defense spending for an enemy that could no longer be identified, rather than to create a “peace dividend” that would allow those billions to go to the renewal of America’s rapidly decaying economic infrastructure, was a challenge to the US military and intelligence establishment. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell told Army Times in April 1991: “Think hard about it, I’m running out of demons. I’m running out of villains. . . I’m down to Castro and Kim Il Sung.”[4]

    That dilemma was soon to be resolved. Rather than solely relying on military overt force to advance its global agenda, Washington unveiled a dramatic new weapon: “fake democracy” nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) that would be used to covertly create pro-Washington regimes in strategic parts of the world after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Democratic freedom would be the banner, incredibly enough, to introduce a new tyranny: “free” markets in actual fact controlled by Wall Street and European global banks, as well as Western multinational corporations that would loot the vast state-owned resources of the collapsed communist world.


    Weaponizing Human Rights
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    Instead of overt military confrontation, the 1990s, with the brutal exception of Washington’s war in Yugoslavia, were to see the major deployment of what was becoming a dramatically effective new weapon for US-steered, fake democracy regime changes around the world.

    So-called “human rights” NGOs, such as Human Rights Watch financed by billionaire speculator George Soros, Freedom House, the International Republican Institute (IRI), Amnesty International USA, or the US government’s supposedly private National Endowment for Democracy (NED), were to become a primary Washington weapon for regime change to transform the newly independent states of formerly communist Eastern Europe and Russia as well. Later, Washington’s “fake democracy” color revolutions would be brought to China, Central Asia, and, most dramatically, to the oil-rich states of the Middle East as the so-called Arab Spring.

    The goal was to turn the target countries into US economic satrapies, or vassal states, by way of a series of regime-change color revolutions. It took a while before the unsuspecting target nations realized what was being done to them and their economies in the name of US export of “democracy.”

    The first successful fake democracy color revolution regime change was aimed at Slobodan Milošević, then president of what had become by 1999 former Yugoslavia—Serbia Vojvodina, Kosovo, and Montenegro.

    We begin our investigation with a description of the birth of the NGO in Washington that was created with little fanfare by President Reagan’s CIA Director Bill Casey and others in the early 1980s. It was called the NED or National Endowment for Democracy. That NED has played the central role in every Washington-backed regime destabilization aimed at governments pursuing policies not congruent with those of Washington’s post–Cold War new globalization order.


    Endnotes:

    [1] George Orwell, 1984, cited in https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/q...rwe141783.html

    [2] David Rockefeller, Memoirs, p. 405, http://opengov.ideascale.com/a/dtd/D...-NWO/4007-4049. The quote reads: “Some even believe we [Rockefeller family] are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - One World, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

    [3] Joe Stork, New Enemies for a New World Order, MER176, http://www.merip.org/mer/mer176/new-...c739f2806fd833.

    [4] William W. Kaufmann and John D. Steinbruner, Decisions for Defense (Washington, DC: Brookings Institution, 1991), p. 45.





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    Just for context, can you post the "news" letter when he explains that oil is not biological in origin?


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    can you post the "news" letter when he explains that oil is not biological in origin?
    he now believes the hypothesis that petroleum is geological in origin, produced from carbon, by forces of heat and pressure deep underground.
    http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.ne...Peak%20Oil.htm

    Kill him!



    Harry, I think you and I are watching two different movies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    I also encourage you to consider making a support contribution at my website, F. William Engdahl, that I am able to continue offering my content for free.

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    he now believes the hypothesis that petroleum is geological in origin, produced from carbon, by forces of heat and pressure deep underground.
    Has anyone ever explained diamonds to the dopey c u n t ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Harry, I think you and I are watching two different movies...
    I hope you have seen this...


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    Stop double posting you tart.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    I hope you have seen this...
    Yes...when it first came out. I'm on the fence on Ruppert's Peak Oil position. Both Ruppert and Engdahl make good points.

    Posted another Ruppert video on your thread...Apocalypse Man. Check it out if you haven't seen that one.

    I guess you know many think Ruppert was murdered...and it wasn't suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Yes...when it first came out. I'm on the fence on Ruppert's Peak Oil position. Both Ruppert and Engdahl make good points.

    Posted another Ruppert video on your thread...Apocalypse Man. Check it out if you haven't seen that one.

    I guess you know many think Ruppert was murdered...and it wasn't suicide.
    Fuck me the tin foil is rolling out today.

    Peak Oil my arse, they will still be making plastics out of it when renewables have taken over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Apocalypse, Man
    From Part 3..."This is God...this is the God that's dying" (@ about 3:30 minutes in)




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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Democracy as Cognitive Dissonance

    Since this video was removed from another thread, I'll post it here on my thread.


    PSYWAR: The Real Battlefield Is The Mind [2010]

    This film explores the evolution of propaganda and public relations in the United States, with an emphasis on the elitist theory of democracy‚ and the relationship between war, propaganda and class.

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    Ruppert with Joe Rogan 5 1/2 years ago...




    Ruppert at the 9/11 Omission Hearings


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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    I hope you have seen this...

    Thank you, sir,...for posting a topic pertinent, informative video to the thread.

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    This week's Engdahl newsletter via email...so no link. The subject of this one:

    "Beijing and the Turkic Uyghur Threat - A “Holy War” Against China"


    Yes a different topic from the OP, but seems like a good thread to put Engdahl newsletters when the mood strikes me. Yes I know there's a Uyghur topic thread, but I'll put this in my thread.

    Unfortunately c/ping the .pdf format jacks up some of the links in the footnotes. Yes it's long...as I said no link...so if the topic of this newsletter doesn't interest you, move along.

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    Newsletter 40: Beijing and the Turkic Uyghur Threat

    Hello again dear readers,

    In this issue of my periodic newsletter I want to go into the deep background to
    a little-known role of US intelligence, the CIA to be more precise, in infiltrating
    China’s Uyghur Muslim population over a period of decades. Recent Western
    mainstream media and US Congress members have made allegations that
    Beijing has created internment camps in China’s western Xinjiang Province
    where an estimated 11 million Muslim Uyghurs live. While Beijing vehemently
    denies interring one million Uyghurs, the charges are serving to increasingly
    demonize China as an “enemy regime,” along with Russia, in Western media.
    The recent chorus of attacks on Beijing over treatment of its Muslim minority in
    Xinjiang conveniently ignores the relevant background to why Beijing is very
    alarmed about its Muslim Uyghurs. One major reason is that there are an
    estimated 5-18,000 Uyghurs fighting as Islamic Jihadists in Syria, and reportedly
    being groomed to return to China to wage Jihad against the government in the
    region which is the heart of China’s oil and gas pipeline networks and a hub for
    the New Silk Road. The role of Turkey and the Erdogan government in
    supporting what he calls “East Turkestan peoples” is at best unclear, at worst,
    malicious. At this juncture, what is clear is that China’s Uyghur problem has its
    roots in the decades of Saudi Wahhabite oil money financing CIA projects across
    Asia on behalf of the Muslim Brotherhood and their terrorist spinoff groups
    including Al Qaeda, Al Nusra Front in Syria and ISIS.

    The following is taken from my recent best-selling book, “The Lost Hegemon:
    Whom the Gods Would Destroy…” The book is available as are my other titles on
    Amazon and in Kindle format as well.

    As well I would ask you also to consider going to the Donate button at the top of
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    Warm regards,
    F. William Engdahl
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    The Lost Hegemon © F. William Engdahl
    Chapter Twelve: A “Holy War” Against China

    “The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked
    marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Russians. The same doctrines can still be used to
    destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter the Chinese influence in
    Central Asia.”1
    —Graham E. Fuller, 1999, key CIA architect of US Islam strategy

    Stirring Up Some Uyghur Muslims

    In early 1979, months before the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, US National
    Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski drafted a top-secret Presidential Order as
    noted earlier. It was signed by President Jimmy Carter. The order authorized the
    CIA to train fundamentalist Saudi and other Muslims to wage a Holy War, or Jihad
    against the Soviet communist “infidels,” non-believers in the strict Islamic faith of
    Sunni conservative Islam. The resulting Mujahideen terror war against Soviet
    soldiers in Afghanistan was the largest covert action in CIA history, lasting almost
    nine years before the Soviets retreated out of Afghanistan and, soon after, called
    an end to the Cold War.2

    Brzezinski’s strategy, which he called the “Arc of Crisis” strategy, was
    basically to set aflame the Muslim populations of Soviet Central Asia in order to
    destabilize the Soviet Union at a time of growing Russian economic crisis
    internally.

    In 1998, almost ten years later and well after the collapse of the Soviet
    Union, in a triumphant interview in the French magazine Le Nouvel Observateur,
    Brzezinski defended his deployment of fundamentalist Islamic radical terrorists in
    Pakistan and Afghanistan. He revealed, for the first time, in that interview
    (deliberately excluded from US editions of the magazine) that, whereas the Soviet
    army invaded Afghanistan on December 24, 1979, some six months earlier, on July
    3, 1979, President Carter had signed the first top secret directive, code-named
    Operation Cyclone, for secret US aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in
    Kabul. It was done on Brzezinski’s advice, correctly calculating that the secret
    support of radical political Islamic fighters carrying the Sword of Islam would
    induce the Soviets to invade. Washington wanted the Soviets to undergo their
    own “Vietnam” defeat in Afghanistan.

    Asked by Le Nouvel Observateur if he had regrets for having armed and
    trained future Islamic terrorists, he snapped, “What is most important to the
    history of the world? . . . Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central
    Europe . . . ?”3

    Since that time, some thirty-five years ago, the US Pentagon and CIA, or
    definite hawkish factions within, had used radical political Islam—“some stirred up
    Muslims”—around the world, in order to destabilize countries that stood in the
    way of the Sole Superpower—the USA—and what President George H.W. Bush in
    his September 11, 1991, speech called the “New World Order,” an American-run
    totalitarian global order.

    That covert use of political Islam or “Jihad” Islam by Western, especially US,
    intelligence was largely either overlooked by US allies and other countries or not
    understood for the danger it posed.

    CIA and Xinjiang’s Uyghur Islamist Unrest

    One of the major architects of Brzezinski’s Islamic Arc of Crisis strategy in 1979
    and after was a career senior CIA Middle East specialist, Graham E. Fuller, a
    specialist in “Islamic extremism,” also known as political Islamic Jihadism. In 1999,
    Fuller wrote a policy paper for the RAND Corporation, a Pentagon-linked think
    tank, in which he stated, “The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of
    helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan
    against the Russians. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what
    remains of Russian power, and especially to counter the Chinese influence in
    Central Asia [author’s emphasis—F.W.E.].”4

    Fuller’s proposal had become fundamental US secret strategic policy by the
    late 1990s. Washington’s policy of “weaponizing” and training radical Islamists
    and establishing thousands of radical Islamist schools and madrassas across the
    Middle East, Africa, and Central Asia, complete with CIA-translated radical school
    books and Koran interpretations that fanned hatred of “infidels” or non-Sunni
    Muslims, was to be directed at the emerging economic colossus of China and also
    against a then weaker Russian foe.

    With the chaos after the collapse of the Soviet Union in the beginning of the
    1990s, the CIA rushed into the newly independent Central Asian republics to
    immediately establish their presence, using as their proxy the veterans of the
    Afghan Mujahideen wars. They flew Mujahideen Jihadists into Azerbaijan to get
    control of the government for US and British oil companies.5 They brought
    Mujahideen into Chechnya and the former Soviet Caucasus to wreak terror and
    chaos there to block a Russian-Azeri oil pipeline and weaken a struggling Russia in
    the Yeltsin era.

    Less known, they also brought their Mujahideen Holy War veterans into
    Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and even inside the borders of China’s largely Muslim
    Xinjiang Province. Graham Fuller’s proposal was being secretly implemented
    against China.

    The 2009 Urumqi Riots

    The effects of Fuller’s plan became bluntly obvious for the Beijing government in
    2009, when Uyghur Islamist radicals began a wave of terror and violent attacks
    against Han Chinese in Xinjiang, supported by CIA and CIA-financed front
    organizations.

    Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, a strategic province at the heart of
    China’s energy economy and crossroads for vital energy pipelines from
    Kazakhstan, was also the world’s fourth largest concentration of ethnic Turkic
    Muslim peoples with approximately eight million Uyghurs, Kazaks, and Kyrgyz in
    Xinjiang.

    That made Xinjiang a prime target for a carefully planned activation of a
    pan-Turkic destabilization strategy developed by the CIA’s Graham Fuller and
    others in Washington. Their aim was to foster the idea of a “New Ottoman (Turkic)
    Caliphate,” or pan-Turkic theocracy, recalling the oppressive Ottoman Caliphate
    that collapsed after the First World War. The CIA’s target Turkic countries or
    provinces, in addition to Xinjiang and Turkey, were the Azeri populations of Iran
    and Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Kyrgyzstan.

    Riots and unrest in Urumqi exploded with deadly violence on July 5, 2009.
    The propaganda voice of Uyghur Muslims behind the riots was the World Uyghur
    Congress (WUC), a strange exile group in Washington, DC, headed by wealthy
    Xinjiang political operative Rebiya Kadeer, whose husband, Sidiq Rouzi, left China
    for the United States to work for the US Government radio stations Radio Free
    Asia and Voice of America, both known CIA front organizations.

    Working together with the WUC was another exiled Uyghur, Erkin Alptekin.
    Alptekin was founder and Honorary President of another strange group, the
    Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization (UNPO). Just seven weeks
    before the riots were triggered by the World Uyghur Congress call to protest, a US
    NGO financed by the US government and a reported front for the CIA, namely the
    National Endowment for Democracy (NED), held a conference in Washington
    titled East Turkestan: 60 Years under Communist Chinese Rule. The conference
    was cosponsored by Alptekin’s Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization.
    In brief, the Uyghur exile movement had become a CIA asset.6

    Erkin Alptekin founded UNPO while working for the US Information

    Agency’s official propaganda organization, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, as
    Director of their Uygur Division and Assistant Director of the Nationalities
    Services. Radio Liberty had been a propaganda instrument of the CIA and the US
    State Department since the beginning of the Cold War.

    The World Uyghur Congress played a key role to “trigger” the July 2009
    riots. Their website wrote about an alleged violent attack on June 26 in China’s
    southern Guangdong Province at a toy factory, where the WUC alleged that Han
    Chinese workers attacked and beat to death two Uyghur workers for allegedly
    raping or sexually molesting two Han Chinese women workers in the factory. On
    July 1, the Munich office of the WUC issued a worldwide call for protest
    demonstrations against Chinese embassies and consulates for the alleged
    Guangdong attack, despite the fact they admitted the details of the incident were
    unsubstantiated and filled with allegations and dubious reports.7

    According to a press release they issued, it was that June 26 alleged attack
    that gave the WUC the grounds to issue their worldwide call to action.
    On July 5, a Sunday in Xinjiang, the WUC in Washington claimed that Han
    Chinese armed soldiers seized any Uyghur they found on the streets, and,
    according to official Chinese news reports, widespread riots and burning of cars
    along the streets of Urumqi broke out, resulting over the following three days in
    over 140 deaths.8

    China’s official Xinhua News Agency said that protesters from the Uyghur
    Muslim ethnic minority group began attacking ethnic Han pedestrians, burning
    vehicles, and attacking buses with batons and rocks. “They took to the street . . .
    carrying knives, wooden batons, bricks and stones,” they cited an eyewitness as
    saying. The French AFP news agency quoted Alim Seytoff, general secretary of the
    Uyghur American Association in Washington, as saying that, according to his
    information, police had begun shooting “indiscriminately” at protesting crowds.9

    There are two different versions of the same events: The Chinese
    government and pictures of the riots indicated it was Uyghur riots and attacks on
    Han Chinese residents that resulted in deaths and destruction. French official
    reports put the blame on Chinese police “shooting indiscriminately.” Significantly,
    the French AFP report relied on the NED-funded Uyghur American Association of
    Rebiya Kadeer for its information.

    The riots in Xinjiang, triggered by Washington-based Uyghur organizations,
    broke out only days after a meeting took place of the member nations of the
    Shanghai Cooperation Organization, as well as with Iran’s official observer guest,
    President Ahmadinejad, in Yekaterinburg, Russia. There was a clear connection
    between the Yekaterinburg meeting and the Uyghur riots. Washington was not at
    all happy to see the nations of Eurasia cooperate.

    A New “Turkic” Empire?

    The CIA’s main tool to spread Islamist ideology in all the key Central Asian regions,
    including in Xinjiang, after the Cold War was a reclusive Turkish former Imam
    named Fethullah Gülen.

    The CIA’s Graham E. Fuller was a main “sponsor” of Gülen. Fuller and
    former CIA agent and US Ambassador to Turkey Morton Abramowitz enabled
    Gülen to obtain permanent residence in Pennsylvania in the 1990s, over the
    objections of the US State Department, FBI, and Department of Homeland
    Security.10 The lawyers from the State Department at that court hearing even
    claimed Gülen had ties to and was financed by the CIA as reason for denying him
    US residency.11 Gülen’s organization, like most of the political Jihadist
    organizations backed by the CIA since the Mujahideen in the 1980s, was also
    alleged to finance its vast empire by dealing in the distribution of Afghanistan
    heroin.12

    The CIA’s Gülen Movement has a network covering the entire New Silk Road of China into Xinjiang.
    Gülen, a vital asset of the CIA’s neoconservative faction that was out to
    wreak chaos across China and Central Asia to Russia, Iran, and beyond, reportedly
    was tied to Turkish heroin mafias smuggling Afghan heroin to the West.13

    Sibel Edmonds was a former FBI Turkish-language translator who was
    silenced by the US Justice Department from going public with her uncovering of a
    deep network of money laundering, illegal drugs, and weapons dealings, including
    nuclear weapons. She charged that the network she discovered from translating
    secret FBI wiretapped conversations involved Gülen-affiliated Turkish police,
    business networks, criminal rogue CIA agents, the State Department, and US
    Defense Department neoconservative networks at high levels in Washington.
    According to Edmonds, who brought a US Ohio Court case to force disclosure of
    this criminal network, Gülen by 2013 had established
    more than 300 madrassas in Central Asia and what he calls universities that
    have a front that is called Moderate Islam, but he is closely involved in
    training mujahideen-like militia Islam who are brought from Pakistan and
    Afghanistan into Central Asia where his madrassas operate, and his
    organization’s network is estimated to be around $25 billion.

    It is supported by certain US authorities here because of the operations in
    Central Asia, but what they have been doing since late 1990s is actually
    radical Islam and militarizing these very, very young, from the age 14, 15, by
    commandoes they use, and this is both commandoes from Turkish military,
    commandoes from Pakistani ISI in Central Asia and Azerbaijan. After that
    they bring them to Turkey, and from Turkey they send them through
    Europe, to European and elsewhere.14

    The Gülen Movement founded madrassas in the 1990s, mostly in the newly
    independent Turkic republics of Central Asia and Russia. Gülen’s Central Asian
    madrassas were used as training schools for al Qaeda and served as a front for
    undercover CIA and US State Department officials operating in the region.15

    One of Gülen’s protégé’s was Anwar Yusuf Turani, the person who took
    over the East Turkistan Independence Movement from his exile in Washington, DC
    after 2003. In 2004, Turani set up the “East Turkistan Government in Exile” and
    was “elected” Prime Minister.16 It was not clear who exactly “elected” Turani.
    Washington was clearly happy to give him a platform for his anti-Beijing activities
    in Xinjiang.

    Significantly, according to a report in a Turkish investigative magazine, Turk
    Pulse, Turani’s organization’s “activities for the government in exile are based on a
    report entitled ‘The Xinjiang Project.’ That was written by former senior CIA officer
    Graham E. Fuller in 1998 for the Rand Corporation and revised in 2003 under the
    title ‘The Xinjiang Problem.’” 17

    In a 1999 interview, Anwar Yusuf Turani claimed that he received financial
    support from wealthy patrons in Saudi Arabia, home of the ultraconservative
    Wahhabite Sunni form of Islam that provided the core of Osama bin Laden’s
    Jihadist Afghanistan Mujahideen terrorist guerrillas in the 1980s.18 Saudi
    intelligence cooperated with the CIA in those global Islamist Jihad operations.

    ETIM and CIA Jihad in Xinjiang

    In the late 1990s, Hasan Mahsum, also known as Abu-Muhammad al-
    Turkestani, founder of the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, had moved ETIM’s
    headquarters to Kabul, taking shelter under Taliban-controlled Afghanistan. In
    Afghanistan, ETIM leaders met with Osama bin Laden and other leaders of the
    CIA-trained Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan to
    coordinate actions across Central Asia.19

    Turkestan Islamic Party Seal—a Koran surrounded by two Scimitars.
    In his own study of Xinjiang, the CIA’s Graham E. Fuller noted that Saudi
    Arabian groups had disseminated extremist Wahhabi religious literature and
    possibly small arms through sympathizers in Xinjiang, and that young Turkic
    Muslims had been recruited to study at madrasas in Pakistan, Afghanistan and
    Saudi Arabia. He adds that Uyghurs from Xinjiang also fought alongside Osama bin
    Laden’s Al Qaeda in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

    Fuller noted, “Uyghurs are indeed in touch with Muslim groups outside
    Xinjiang, some of them have been radicalized into broader jihadist politics in the
    process, a handful were earlier involved in guerrilla or terrorist training in
    Afghanistan, and some are in touch with international Muslim mujahideen
    struggling for Muslim causes of independence worldwide.”20

    The goal of the various Islamist Jihad groups the CIA covertly backed,
    beginning the time of the Afghan Mujahideen in the 1980s, was to spread a cancer
    of radical Islamic terror and fanaticism to displace the tradition of moderate,
    peaceful Islam across Central Asia and into Xinjiang, as the earlier cited statement
    from the CIA’s Graham E. Fuller indicated.

    ETIM Joins with IMU

    The Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU ), allies of the East Turkestan Islamic
    Movement, were tied with Al Qaeda of Osama bin Laden. They also incorporated
    Uyghurs from Xinjiang in their battles, giving them vital combat training to return
    to Xinjiang to wage Jihad inside China.21

    After the chaotic collapse of Soviet rule in the early 1990s, the initial focus
    of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan was grabbing control of the vital Fergana
    Valley spread across eastern Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan. Returning
    Afghan war veteran and Uzbek paratrooper Jumaboi Khojayev, radicalized by his
    contact with Osama bin Laden’s Saudi Jihad Islamist fighters, joined with Tohir
    Yuldashev to form a radical Salafist Islamist group in Namangan which they called
    Adolat (“Justice”). They seized control of the civil government in Namangan and
    quickly imposed Sharia Law, which was ruthlessly enforced by Adolat’s vigilantes.
    Adolat was initially tolerated by the newly installed President Karimov.

    When Adolat demanded that Karimov impose Sharia throughout Uzbekistan in
    1992, Karimov moved to outlaw Adolat and reestablish central control over the
    Fergana Valley region—traditionally one of the most militant Islamic regions in
    Central Asia. The IMU received large sums of money from patrons in Saudi Arabia,
    reportedly close to then chief of Saudi Intelligence Prince Turki al-Faisal.22 The
    triangle of CIA and Saudi intelligence financing Jihadist Islamic groups was to
    appear again and again.

    Fethullah Gülen’s madrassas and Islamist schools were all over Uzbekistan
    at the same time, many harboring dozens of CIA agents posing as “English
    teachers.”23 It was Graham Fuller’s strategy being implemented across Central
    Asia. Both Russia and China were the ultimate targets.

    Significantly, there was a large Uyghur exile Muslim population with offices
    in Istanbul, where Fethullah Gülen’s Hizmat, or movement, at the time was deeply
    entrenched within the government of Islamist Recep Erdoğan. According to the
    Turkish journal TurkPulse, “One of the main tools Washington is using in this affair
    in order to get Turkey involved in the Xinjiang affair are some Turkish Americans,
    primarily Fetullah Gulen.”24 The Uyghurs in Turkey were actively engaged in
    promoting East Turkestan autonomy and separatism.25

    ………..
    The Uyghur Muslim riots—incited by Rebiya Kadeer’s World Uyghur

    Congress, Anwar Yusuf Turani’s East Turkistan Independence Movement, and the
    Turkestan Islamic Party—were all deployed to maximize destabilization and unrest
    throughout China’s vital energy hub in Xinjiang. But the focus of Graham Fuller’s
    friends at the CIA and State Department went far beyond the borders of Xinjiang.

    Over time, they deployed political Islam cults in Pakistan to disrupt major Chinesefinanced
    infrastructure, in Myanmar to disrupt the vital China-Myanmar energy
    infrastructure, and across the Middle East and Africa, from Sudan to Libya to Syria,
    to be in a position to choke off, at will, China’s vital oil and gas lifelines.

    “New Silk Road” of Eurasia

    In September 2013, Chinese President Xi Jinping made a major tour of Central
    Asian countries to announce Chinese plans to build a New Silk Road across Central
    Asia.

    The plans included more natural gas for Chinese industry from
    Turkmenistan, requiring construction of a new branch line for the Central Asia-
    China gas pipeline, which will also include Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan. Xi Jinping
    spoke of building an “economic belt along the Silk Road,” a trans-Eurasian project
    spanning from the Pacific Ocean to the Baltic Sea. It would, he said in a speech in
    Astana in Kazakhstan, create an economic belt inhabited by “close to 3 billion
    people and [would represent] the biggest market in the world with unparalleled
    potential.”26

    In his Turkmenistan visit on the same tour, Xi secured the transnational
    Turkmenistan-China gas pipeline that would go along the route from
    Turkmenistan to Uzbekistan–Tajikistan–Kyrgyzstan on to China. Beijing’s only
    problem was that the Central Asia-China gas pipeline and other pipelines, power
    lines, and transport networks all ran through the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous
    Region. Xinjiang was targeted by Washington in an ongoing destabilization
    campaign using Graham Fuller’s friends and their Islamic Jihadist terror bands as
    their proxies.

    As such strategic economic moves by China, potentially positive moves that
    could lift the largest part of the world’s population into a more prosperous
    economic life, went forward, certain powerful interest groups in the West—
    banking, industrial, military, and political—came to view Beijing, only a decade or
    so earlier the “great friend” of America, now as the new emerging Great Enemy.
    An Asia Pivot military shift was announced by President Obama to refocus US
    military activities on blocking that growing Chinese influence.

    A central part of their strategy to derail China and its growing Eurasian
    presence would be the increased deployment of Islamic fundamentalism of the
    Gülen, Al Qaeda, and Muslim Brotherhood kind against China, Russia, and all
    Eurasia, the one space that Zbigniew Brzezinski in his famous book The Grand
    Chessboard called the only possible challenge to America’s future hegemony and
    dominance.

    To understand how that had evolved to the situation of such a threat today
    it is important to go into the historical roots of political Islam and its emergence
    after the First World War and after.

    Endnotes:

    1 Richard Labeviere, Dollars for Terror: The United States and Islam, Algora Publishing, 2000,
    p. 6.

    2 Zbigniew Brzezinski, Ex-National Security Chief Brzezinski admits: Afghan Islamism Was
    Made in Washington, interview in “Le Nouvel Observateur,” Paris, January 15–21, 1998, p.
    76, translated by Bill Blum, accessed in 404 Not Found542984/posts Notably, according to the American author Bill Blum, “There are at least
    two editions of ‘Le Nouvel Observateur.’ With apparently the sole exception of the Library of
    Congress, the version sent to the United States is shorter than the French version. The
    Brzezinski interview was not included in the shorter version.”

    3 Ibid.

    4 Richard Labeviere, op. cit.

    5 Christoph Germann, The New Great Game Roundup No. 12, accessed in
    Christoph Germann: The New Great Game Round-Up #12

    6 F. William Engdahl, Washington is Playing a Deeper Game with China, Global Research.ca,
    July 11, 2009, accessed in http://www.globalresearch.ca/washing...-a-deepergame-with-china/14327

    7 Ibid.

    8 Ibid.

    9 Ibid.

    10 Sibel Edmonds, Boston Terror CIAs Graham Fuller and NATO CIA Operation Gladio B
    Caucasus and Central Asia, Boiling Frogs Post, April 27, 2013, accessed in
    http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013...or-ciasgraham-fuller-nato-cia-operation-gladio-b-caucasus-central-asia/

    11 Mizgîn, Gülen, the CIA and the American Deep State, Rastibini Blogspot, June 29, 2008,
    accessed in Rastî: GÜLEN, THE CIA, AND THE AMERICAN DEEP STATE

    12 David Livingstone, Uighur Nationalism Turkey and the CIA, July 31, 2009, accessed in
    http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/...6#.UvjvNLQtqZQ

    13 Ibid.

    14 Sibel Edmonds, BEFORE THE OHIO ELECTIONS COMMISSION: DEPOSITION IN THE MATTER
    OF JEAN SCHMIDT, Plaintiff, vs. DAVID KRIKORIAN, Defendant, Case No. 2009E-003, August
    8, 2009, accessed in http://christophgermann.blogspot.de/2013/05/chinas-central-asiaproblem.html

    15 Gillian Norman-Jilinda, Beijing Olympics False Flag Attack, 8 August 2008, accessed in
    http://rense.com/general82/bej.htm

    16 Website, The Government-in-Exile of East Turkestan Republic, accessed in
    Untitled Page

    17 Gillian Norman-Jilinda, op. cit.

    18 Dru C. Gladney, and S. Frederick Starr, Xinjiang: China's Muslim Borderland, Armonk, New
    York, 2004, Central Asia-Caucasus Institute, pp. 388–389.

    19 Wikipedia, East Turkestan Islamic Movement, accessed in
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Tu...lamic_Movement

    20 Graham E. Fuller and S. Frederick Starr, The Xinjiang Problem, Central Asia-Caucasus
    Institute at Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, The Johns Hopkins
    University, pp. 29–37.

    21 Wikipedia, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, accessed in
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic..._of_Uzbekistan

    22 Ramtanu Maitra, Drug Infested Ferghana Valley Target of the Axis of Three Devils, 01
    August 2010, accessed in Drug-Infested Ferghana Valley: Target of the Axis of Three Devils

    23 Sibel Edmonds, Additional Omitted Points in CIA-Gulen coverage & A Note from “The
    Insider,” Boiling Frogs Post, January 11, 2011, accessed in
    http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011...gulencoverage-a-note-from-%E2%80%98the-insider%E2%80%99/

    24 David Livingstone, op. cit.

    25 Graham E. Fuller, op. cit., p. 46.

    26 Wu Jiao and Zhang Yunbi, Xi proposes a new Silk Road with Central Asia, China Daily,
    September 8, 2013, accessed in China Daily Website - Connecting China Connecting the World09/08/content_16952304.htm

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    This bit stuck out like a sore thumb:

    Quote Originally Posted by Engdahl
    Fethullah Gülen’s madrassas and Islamist schools were all over Uzbekistan
    at the same time, many harboring dozens of CIA agents posing as “English
    teachers.”23

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    The problem seems to be that everywhere muslim settle they don't integrate, they grate, don't know why i posted b'coz i'm f king fed up with muslims and islam - yeah intolerant me well fuk em

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    that everywhere muslim settle they don't integrate
    Maybe because they're being artificially inserted into these everywheres? Are these mass Muslim emigrations organic? Jus askin like...

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    No...just sayin like - no one inserted all the paki child abusing enclaves in northern England - i'd fukin ........

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    Who was behind(or the author of) the 1947 partitioning of India? Pakis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Who was behind(or the author of) the 1947 partitioning of India? Pakis?
    SKkin, i've got nothing against you but if you think that we as a people in the UK are to blame for the gangs of child abusers who emigrated in the 21st Century, for an act our forefather were responsible for you have lost any respect i have for you, and for that i feel sorry.

    Your statement there implies these acts were a natural result of the partitioning - really, so this excuses the acts - fuk me i am glad we are not in the same room because i have had to console someone who lost a child due to this "partitioning"
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    ^ I've got to go for now. Let me get back to you on that.

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    No please don't bother, there's not much that gets to me on here, but you have with this so lets leave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Your statement there implies these acts were a natural result of the partitioning
    It was a question, not a statement assigning blame. An honest question regarding where the most pressure came from for the partitioning. From inside India of the time or from the British?? Or from both sides? I'm not really sure. Probably worded post #22 wrong.

    But either way, the results of it had far reaching effects into the future that weren't fully thought through at the time. IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    No please don't bother,
    No I had to, because I'm curious.

    btw...We here in the US have our own bills to pay stemming from the consequences of our forefather's actions.


    And I'm still of the opinion that a lot of these mass migrations are caused by behind the scenes manipulations that aren't covered in the "news."

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    It is an interesting, and largely ignored debate. I’m happy to admit that I am not especially well informed on the subject, but I do have an interest in the historic manipulation of nation states, for sometimes nefarious reasons.

    While I agree that the grooming of youngsters in UK is horrific, it is my understanding that the wide diaspora of peoples from the sub continent, may have been driven by former colonial powers. It’s been going on much longer than we realise.

    Just as everything in the natural world is connected, so too is the political and economic structure of nations.

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