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    China's super trawlers are stripping the ocean bare as its hunger for seafood grows


    Zhoushan fleet ... China accounts for a third of the world's consumption of seafood

    The world's fisheries are in crisis. The United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organisation estimates 90 per cent of them have collapsed and China is the major player in their demise.

    By a long way, China has the world's biggest deep sea fishing fleet that strip mines the world's oceans.
    The Chinese government heavily subsidises the fleet in an attempt satisfy the country's insatiable appetite for seafood, which accounts for a third of world consumption.

    In the port city of Zhoushan on China's east coast, 500 trawlers raced out to sea on the first day of the season.
    Every season is harder than the last. The fleet have to head deeper into the ocean and stay for longer for a decent catch.




    The Zhoushan fleet heading out to sea at the beginning of the fishing season.


    The seas around China have virtually no fish left but the commercial fishing fleet is still huge.

    With an estimated 200,000 boats, it accounts for nearly half of the world's fishing activity.

    A dozen trawlers returned to Zhoushan with their first catch of the season — crab.
    The hauls were good but well under half of previous years.

    These days the smaller trawlers and boats mostly catch "trash fish" — tiny fish with little value, used as feed for animals and in aqua farms.
    Like most others in Zhoushan, the only thing keeping Captain Lin and his crew afloat are government subsidies.

    "The diesel fuel, fixing the boat would cost me 200,000 yuan ($40,000) the government subsides me more than 100,000 yuan ($20,000)," Captain Lin said.

    The Chinese government has given $28 billion Australian dollars in subsidies over the last four years to its fishing fleet.
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    It really is time they started eating each other again, like back in Mao's day. Soyrent Gleen.

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    It wasn't 30 years ago that they claimed Russian factory ships were stripping the seas. Who next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    It wasn't 30 years ago that they claimed Russian factory ships were stripping the seas. Who next?
    What are you saying?

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    If Thailand had good freight links with China they could develop aquaculture exports along with many other foods

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    Locusts.

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    How many Chinese fishing boats are fishing in the North Sea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    How many Chinese fishing boats are fishing in the North Sea?
    Probably none:

    Ships are not allowed to work without permission in the exclusive economic zones of other countries, which extend by United Nations convention no more than 200 nautical miles from a country’s territorial sea baseline.

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    Where is Uh Oh when you need him?


    @Uh Oh, tell us how this is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    @Uh Oh, tell us how this is a good thing.
    I am sure that idiot will have some moronic response sooner or later.

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    He'll probably say this doesn't matter because they've sold lots of cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    China accounts for a third of the world's consumption of seafood
    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    The Chinese government heavily subsidises the fleet in an attempt satisfy the country's insatiable appetite for seafood, which accounts for a third of world consumption.
    Moderately wealthy citizens spending their wealth.

    Or shall we sanction wealthy individuals freely spending their money of trinkets, real, edible or kg. chunks of



    Unfortunately one world supplier of food is conducting a war with China

    THE LORD is helping though, planting more soya beans, wheat, vegetables and offering farmers an opportunity in it's western Pacific provinces and opening up the Arctic seas. Russia is also developing non-GMO oats, there seems to be a growing demand for multiple dishes of porridge in large southern hemisphere island.

    You wait until they get a taste for western luxury foods. French cheeses, Foie Gras ..........


    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    "The diesel fuel, fixing the boat would cost me 200,000 yuan ($40,000) the government subsides me more than 100,000 yuan ($20,000)," Captain Lin said.
    Here's me thinking that the Chinese "fishing fleet", were all armed trawlers attacking defenceless mermaids. Or is that still the Icelandic fleet? 100,000 Yuan a year for an armed trawler, seems a good deal for the government.

    Beats 150m usd crashing planes, mm ships that breakdown, missile defence systems ..........

    Government subsidies eh, where to start naming western countries who subsidies, protect and legislate away free trade. The Horror.

    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    @Uh Oh, tell us how this is a good thing.
    No more ameristani being washed off trawlers in frozen waters catching "King Crabs", no more live Lobsters spending years in Canadian jails?



    "These trays protect lobster against aggression"

    Not to mention increasing their desire for sex. They are kept in high rise jails where the females are at the top and piss all over the males below causing increased growth in their sex organs, allegedly.


    https://www.aquabiotech.com/lobster_condo/

    They're buying the food in FRNs, for now.

    Allegedly this is nothing new:

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    The Chinese government heavily subsidises the fleet in an attempt satisfy the country's insatiable appetite for seafood, which accounts for a third of world consumption.


    Consumption of seafood in China - Daxue Consulting

    Seems the Ocean caught catch has gone from 12,500 thousand tons to 14,500 thousand tons on ten years. 2,000 thousand tons/12,500 thousand tons = 16% in ten years or 1.6%/year. Not a great deal compared to their farmed fish production increases. The numbers are following an obvious trend, I wonder why nobody noticed prior to this year!

    Spoiler alert: Chinese official figures

    One wonders why this year it has attracted attention, Hmmmmmm must be on somebody's agenda eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    because they've sold lots of cars.
    They are making and selling lots of things, maybe some are jealous at seeing Asians moving up in the hierarchy?

    As baldrick mentioned:

    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    If Thailand had good freight links with China they could develop aquaculture exports along with many other foods
    Many other Asian nations could be selling their farmed sea food etc., somebody missing an opportunity? Asia needs more high speed trains. I'm sure China will offer a good turnkey deal on the railways, trains, control systems, finance, maintenance, repairs and possible some construction expertise and able contractors.

    Give Uncle Xi a ring.



    We could of course sell somebody some guns.


    Anybody going to respond or await another round:




    My apologies for not posting a one liner and my poor English grammar.
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    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Probably none:

    Ships are not allowed to work without permission in the exclusive economic zones of other countries, which extend by United Nations convention no more than 200 nautical miles from a country’s territorial sea baseline.
    That's what I thought, so the article is mostly nonsense ...

    The world's fisheries are in crisis. The United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organisation estimates 90 per cent of them have collapsed and China is the major player in their demise. By a long way, China has the world's biggest deep sea fishing fleet that strip mines the world's oceans.
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    Just gotta teach the fookers to kill it before cutting it up and eating it alive.



    What do they do, have a conversation with it. Whisper sweet nothings. Tell it how tasty it is.

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    That looks like Japanese food rather than Chinese, Luigi (note the wasabi, for example).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Japanese
    Chinese
    All the same bud innit.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Whisper sweet nothings. Tell it how tasty it is.
    If you squeeze them do they squeak?

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    Not if your co.... possibly.

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    sad thing is that with all the plastic entering the food chain, whatever they leave is probably going to be inedible, still with it taking 100+ years to degrade they'll keep well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Whisper sweet nothings. Tell it how tasty it is.
    If you squeeze them do they squeak?


    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Probably none:

    Ships are not allowed to work without permission in the exclusive economic zones of other countries, which extend by United Nations convention no more than 200 nautical miles from a country’s territorial sea baseline.
    Icelandic cod wars, Vietnamese ships being sunk/rammed .........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Whisper sweet nothings. Tell it how tasty it is.
    If you squeeze them do they squeak?


    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Probably none:

    Ships are not allowed to work without permission in the exclusive economic zones of other countries, which extend by United Nations convention no more than 200 nautical miles from a country’s territorial sea baseline.
    Icelandic cod wars, Vietnamese ships being sunk/rammed .........


    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    That's what I thought, so the article is mostly nonsense ...
    Nah ameristani vassal, Oz's racist, fake "news".

    it's in TD news but somebody failed to provide a link.

    China's super trawlers are stripping the ocean bare as its hunger for seafood grows - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    All the same bud innit.



    Of course it is.

    Damn Orientals.


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    They don't care where they fish, they are just parasites.

    Twenty Chinese crewmembers have been sentenced to jail and handed a $5.9m (£4.6m) fine for illegally fishing off the Galapagos Islands, where they were caught by Ecuadorean officials with 6,600 sharks aboard.


    The Chinese-flagged ship Fu Yuan Yu Leng 999 was apprehended with 300 tonnes of of near-extinct or endangered species, including hammerhead sharks.

    Pictures from the Environment Ministry of
    Ecuador show the sharks with their fins removed. Shark fin soup is considered a delicacy in China.

    Judge Alexandra Arroyo announced the captain of the ship will serve four years in jail.
    If the parasitic little c u n t s had their way, they'd be eating every animal on Galapagos as well.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7920361.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    That's what I thought, so the article is mostly nonsense ...

    The world's fisheries are in crisis. The United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organisation estimates 90 per cent of them have collapsed and China is the major player in their demise. By a long way, China has the world's biggest deep sea fishing fleet that strip mines the world's oceans.
    What you are missing is that part of China's bribery and corruption scheme in places like Africa buys them fishing rights. They then plunder the country's waters clean, destroying the local fishing economy.

    That's all because the locusts have destroyed their own waters.

    They are too stupid to understand the meaning of the word "sustainable".

    Within China’s own exclusive economic zone, the nation has lost “one-half of its coastal wetlands, 57% of mangroves, and 80% of coral reefs, most of which are critical spawning, nursing, or feeding grounds for fish,” according to a 2016 study undertaken by a team of international experts.
    https://qz.com/948980/china-has-fish...-nations-seas/

    Unfortunately corrupt African leaders have basically let them do what they like, and if not they just go and steal the fish anyway.

    YAOUNDE — Officials from 24 African countries met in Cameroon last month and called for China to stop illegal fishing off the West African coast. In some areas, Chinese fishermen have pushed their local counterparts back to shore, depriving them of their jobs and livelihoods.


    Former fisherman Bisso Frederick, 32, now sells sandwiches in the Cameroonian town of Limbe, on the West African coast. He says he and his colleagues were forced to abandon their jobs three years ago.

    Bisso says they have lost their jobs to Chinese fishermen who have taken over all fishing areas. He says they are very worried the government of Cameroon has allowed foreigners to do little jobs Cameroonians should have been doing.

    In a 2013 study, the international environmental group Greenpeace reported that the number of Chinese fishing boats operating in African waters soared from 13 in 1985 to 462 in 2013.

    The report said there were 114 cases of illegal fishing over an eight-year period in the waters off Gambia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Mauritania, Senegal and Sierra Leone. It said the boats were operating without licenses or in prohibited areas.


    Amadi Diop, who is in charge of the program for aquaculture and fishing at the New Economic Partnership for African Development says such illegal activity is making African fish farmers poorer and destroying the environment.


    He says the $24 billion fishing generates annually in the African continent is threatened by people who are taking far more fish from African waters than can be replaced by those remaining, with the changing climate. He says the people who are suffering most are small scale, low-technology and low-capital fish farmers who contribute 46 percent of the total revenue generated against industrial maritime fishing that contributes 33 percent.




    https://www.voanews.com/a/african-co...g/3133482.html

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