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    Kavanaugh Drama Leaves Taint

    Brett Kavanaugh Is Cursed Either Way

    If he makes it to the Supreme Court without being cleared, his ordeal won't be over.
    By Francis Wilkinson (Bloomberg)

    One way or another, Brett Kavanaugh will have to pay.


    He will not necessarily pay explicitly for whatever it was he did or didn’t do on that contested night long ago. Although if Christine Blasey Ford appears to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and if she acquits herself credibly, then Kavanaugh is unlikely ever to sit on the Supreme Court – no matter what Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell says.

    Kavanaugh can wait to see if Ford’s allegations fall apart under questioning. It’s possible she’ll prove a jumble of contradictions. But from what we know so far, it’s hard to imagine she would. Ford doesn’t have to be sure of the color of paint on the wall 35 years ago. She only needs to be sure of the details of the attack as she has already described it.

    Conservatives viewing her actions as a product of Democratic skulduggery fool themselves. Her allegations were problematic for Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein, who first received them in confidence.

    If Democrats had plotted to weaponize the allegations for best effect, this late-inning muddle would not have resulted.


    If McConnell is correct and Republicans manage to push Kavanaugh through to the high court, no matter what, Kavanaugh won’t be out of the woods.
    This is not 1991, when Anita Hill accused soon-to-be Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment. And Kavanaugh, the beneficiary of virtually every privilege that status and education can afford, is not Thomas.

    Democrats in 1991 were already the party of feminists. But many of the Democratic men in Congress – Barbara Mikulski was the lone Democratic woman in the Senate – were just as doltish toward a female accuser as Republican senators are today.


    That’s no longer the case. Democrats have four women on the Judiciary Committee, and the men are so different from the cast of 1991 that Senator Chris Coons of Delaware has publicly
    mused that maybe he should cede his committee time to his two female colleagues who are former prosecutors and superior interviewers.
    More important, the Republican Party of 1991 is not the party of 2018. The party leader then was George H.W. Bush, a war hero with pronounced social graces. The current leader is a habitual liar and crude demagogue who has been accused of sexual predation by more than a dozen women while continuing to behave as cad-in-chief.

    The GOP of 2018 views the Supreme Court differently as well. Republicans were not facing electoral attrition in those days, desperately trying to sabotage the future. Republicans had held the presidency for three terms and were on the verge of a historic victory in the House over a corrupt and complacent Democratic majority.

    Now, Republicans are investing in a partisan court to deliver partisan outcomes to advance partisan goals that are insulated from democratic accountability, such as elections and popular opinion, which Republicans increasingly fear.

    That’s why they killed the legitimate nomination of Merrick Garland to the court. And it’s why
    bad faith saturates their every act concerning the court; they view it as an antidemocratic firewall to protect their culturally narrow and politically unpopular agenda.

    The Clarence Thomas battle ended when Thomas took his seat on the court. The Kavanaugh war could escalate if he reaches the same height. Trump’s multifaceted attacks on rule of law and his sprawling corruption, ignored, excused or fully embraced by the Republican Congress, have clarified the stakes for Democrats. It’s no longer just about who gets to run things until the other guys take over. David Frum’s ominous
    insight, that conservatives forced to choose between democracy and conservatism would choose the latter, is now operationalized in every branch of government.

    It will be in Democrats’ political interest to delegitimize a partisan Republican court waging war against a Congress and state governments under Democratic control. When Democrats regain sufficient strength in Washington, Kavanaugh will appear to them as a wounded, vulnerable prey.


    Democrats can revisit evidence of his
    misleading testimony. They can pursue documentary corroboration, among the vast trove to which Republicans denied the Democrats and the public access, to buttress potential claims of perjury. And if Ford is bullied out of her moment now, they can give the alleged victim a belated but still-powerful platform, designed to her specifications.

    A public re-vetting of Kavanaugh would take place in a very different context – almost certainly after special counsel Robert Mueller has given an accounting of his investigation into Donald Trump. By the time Kavanaugh’s case would be reopened and relitigated by a Democratic majority, perhaps not until 2021, everything Trump previously touched will likely appear tainted, and suspect.


    The Kavanaugh saga is still fluid and its outcome uncertain. Kavanaugh might yet make it to the Supreme Court. But barring the unlikely collapse of Ford’s allegations, questions of Kavanaugh’s legitimacy will not end
    . Sooner or later the chalice will reveal itself to be poisoned.
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    not SC material; guilty or not....


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    ^ It is telling that he goes on political-arm FOX to tell his story. The swamp dictates every move Trump makes.

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    what his friends from Yale are saying......


    Liz Swisher, who described herself as a friend of Kavanaugh in college, said she was shocked that — in an interview focused largely on his high school years and allegations of sexual misconduct — he strongly denied drinking to the point of blacking out.

    “Brett was a sloppy drunk, and I know because I drank with him. I watched him drink more than a lot of people. He’d end up slurring his words, stumbling,” said Swisher, a Democrat and chief of the gynecologic oncology division at the University of Washington School of Medicine. “There’s no medical way I can say that he was blacked out. . . . But it’s not credible for him to say that he has had no memory lapses in the nights that he drank to excess.”

    Lynne Brookes, who like Swisher was a college roommate of one of the two women now accusing Kavanaugh of misconduct, said the nominee’s comments on Fox did not match the classmate she remembered.

    “He’s trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy,” said Brookes, a Republican and former pharmaceutical executive who recalled an encounter with a drunken Kavanaugh at a fraternity event. “You can’t lie your way onto the Supreme Court, and with that statement out, he’s gone too far. It’s about the integrity of that institution.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...=.525207d686e6
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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    You can’t lie your way onto the Supreme Court,
    ...Clarence Thomas certainly did...and probably a number of other "judges" as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...Clarence Thomas certainly did...and probably a number of other "judges" as well...
    ...Care for a pube in your coke?...

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    This is a interesting view...



    Old white man berate the black female professor. Thomas should have never been a SCJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Thomas should have never been a SCJ.
    ...exactly: his presence demeans the court...

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    WASHINGTON-- The Senate Judiciary Committee is investigating new accusations of sexual misconduct against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh by a third woman.


    Julie Swetnick did not accuse Kavanaugh of assaulting her, but said she witnessed him trying to get girls drunk so that numerous boys could "gang rape" them during house parties in the early 1980s.

    She did not name a specific incident, but said she saw Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge waiting in line to rape inebriated women, as she says was common practice "at many of these parties." She also said she was raped in such a manner at a party where Judge and Kavanaugh "were present."


    Kavanaugh , in a statement from the White House, said: "This is ridiculous and from the Twilight Zone. I don't know who this is and this never happened."


    He has categorically denied accusations of attempted sexual assault by Christine Blasey Ford in high school and of exposing himself to Deborah Ramirez in college.


    Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said the committee's lawyers are reviewing the new accusation.


    Julie Swetnick's lawyer ,Michael Avenatti, published a sworn statement on Twitter Wednesday. In the document, Swetnick says she witnessed Kavanaugh and his high school friend Mark Judge "drink excessively" and "being overly aggressive with girls."


    Swetnick said she considers statements Kavanaugh made during a Fox News interview about his "innocence" during his high school years "absolutely false and a lie."

    Swetnick has previously worked for several government departments, including the Department of Defense, the U.S. Mint, the Internal Revenue Service, the Department of Treasury, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of State.


    Avenatti gained a national platform after representing Stephanie Clifford, also known as Stormy Daniels, an adult film actress who was paid $130,000 to keep quiet about her sexual affair with President Donald Trump. Avenatti has positioned himself as a potential presidential candidate.

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/poli...ual-misconduct

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    Yep trial by media, no oath no perjury

    Glad he didn't confine himself to trout fishing

    The first 3 contenders


    Swetnick on the left seems to like the kilt and may have tossed the odd caber

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    As to the OP have you tossed a caber?
    Yes, in the King Kong bar Soi 6.
    Was disqualified for using banned substances.
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    I got the sack because
    I took a couple of days off.

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    True or not , there may be a "train" of women from now until the mid terms, whether there'll be an up down vote is moot, like so many before buggered by a semi colon, I suppose why some abusers kill their victims to ensure no witness

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    ...Watched Dr. Ford's opening statement: she's credible and convincing...Kavanaugh assaulted her. Judiciary Chairman Old White Man Grassley sounds like the lifetime Republican politician that he is: crusty, smug with authority, yet with a gentlemanly approach to the witness...certainly aware that women voters from his state are watching...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...Watched Dr. Ford's opening statement: she's credible and convincing...Kavanaugh assaulted her. Judiciary Chairman Old White Man Grassley sounds like the lifetime Republican politician that he is: crusty, smug with authority, yet with a gentlemanly approach to the witness...certainly aware that women voters from his state are watching...
    Yes, her testimony seems rock solid. It is also refreshing to see her treated with respect and dignity, something that is rare in the Trump administration.

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    Well, the Kavanaugh testimony got us back on the US rails of white guy power. L Graham showed his colors after obviously not listening to the Dr. Ford testimony at all. Pretty sure the Party Boy Brett will be confirmed after what happened late today. Women's opinions juz don't matter. Now git on wid it boyh.
    Press On Regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    Pretty sure the Party Boy Brett will be confirmed after what happened late today
    Never a doubt. I watched a good bit of the circus the Republicans claim is an unbiased investigation. Brett came out swinging in his final session in front of the committee. Just what the doctor and Trump ordered. Pushing to bring the vote tomorrow the Republicans refused to allow any further investigation into the process.

    Trump after watching the circus is fully behind his nominee so expect Reps are assessing political fallout in midterm elections if they push to confirm.

    Without further investigation the truth will never come out. The Republicans will claim the allegations have been fully investigated and nothing has been found to substantiate Ford's allegations.

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    Kavanaugh Drama Leaves Taint
    Taint an understatement. Whole process a stench all played out in full view of the entire world.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    The length of the investigation, asking, grilling, humiliating (that is longer and harsher than of the accused) will teach (read scare) any next accusers...

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    American Bar Association Reportedly Wants FBI Investigation Ahead Of Kavanaugh Vote


    The American Bar Association is reportedly calling for an FBI investigation into allegations of sexual assault against Brett Kavanaugh following Thursday's Senate testimony by the Supreme Court nominee and his main accuser, Christine Blasey Ford.

    "We make this request because of the ABA's respect for the rule of law and due process under law," the ABA said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    "Each appointment to our nation's highest court (as with all others) is simply too important to rush to a vote," the letter, obtained by several news outlets including CNN, read.

    It further warned, "Deciding to proceed without conducting additional investigation would not only have a lasting impact on the Senate's reputation, but it will also negatively affect the great trust necessary for the American people to have in the Supreme Court."

    https://www.npr.org/2018/09/28/65246...of-kavanaugh-v



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    Interesting. ABA is a powerful force especially for a Senate full of lawyers.

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    This is really getting good. Just saw a bit on CNN where a woman really lit into Sen. Flake. He was on his way to vote to approve Kavanaugh to the court.

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    Baby wants his bottle....

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    he looks quite nasty, don't think he will get confirmed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    he looks quite nasty,
    good lapdog for the current GOP
    Last edited by uncle junior; 28-09-2018 at 09:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    he looks quite nasty, don't think he will get confirmed
    How generous and whole-hearted that he brings his daughters with him...

    and that he make use of them as an argument - won't he be a good supreme judge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    he looks quite nasty, don't think he will get confirmed
    This committee will approve but getting approved by a Senate majority is getting iffy.

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    no, he is not going to make it, he is moaning already like a little bitch

    where did they find that guy ????

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