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    Here are all the reported torture cases in Russia's prison system, so far this year

    People in Russia are tortured all the time. By prison guards, police officers, investigators, FSB agents, and others. They’re beaten with fists, clubs, bottles of water, kicked, handcuffed, tied up, electrocuted, suffocated, strangled, gassed, and waterboarded. They’re starved, deafened, and forced to shit themselves. But it’s impossible to say how many people are tortured in Russia — there are no reliable statistics here. Victims are afraid to come forward, and the authorities often refuse to open criminal investigations, even when people speak up. Meduza as compiled a list of all reported torture cases in Russia this year, relying on information published by journalists and human rights organizations. The list is incomplete, of course, but the several dozen cases we found should help readers grasp the scale of the problem.

    According to reports by journalists and human rights activists, more than 50 people have been tortured in Russia’s prison system, so far this year, leading to the deaths of six people. At least 15 victims were electrocuted, and a dozen were suffocated or strangled. The most common culprits have been police officers and prison guards, but many of the most shocking cases have involved agents in the Federal Security Service.


    List at this link. https://meduza.io/en/feature/2018/08...-far-this-year

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    Queue the usual suspects to scream “but Gitmo!”

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    "People in Russia are tortured all the time"

    "People in the USA are forced to pay taxes all the time"

    Do you see any similarities?


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    Yes

    Two uses of the phrase "all the time," which denotes fabrication and is not unlike one piss drinking imbecile's standard diatribes.

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    ^Would the phrase 'oppression against the individual' offer a possible clue to a slightly more thought provoking line of cognition?

    Or perhaps you simply prefer the current AntRobertson style slag festivals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Queue the usual suspects to scream “but Gitmo!”
    More than 50 people? I hope no life threatening terrorists among them .
    All of them Russian citizens?
    And all the prisons on the Russian soil?
    Any interesting pictures (like we have seen thousands of them - WTF where it was?)

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    They don't fook about in Russia.




    Russian independent newspaper Novaya Gazeta recently released footage of how Evgeny Makarov, a prisoner in Yaroslavl Colony No 1, was brutally tortured in June 2017.
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/08/16/torture-scandal-makes-russia-pay-attention

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    The list is incomplete, of course,

    And this case hasn't been included in the report? (Oh sorry, it's from the other side)


    Accused 'Russian agent' Butina deprived of sleep & medication

    Jailed Russian gun activist Maria Butina, accused in the US of “espionage,” has been unexpectedly transferred to another prison, her lawyer told RT. Butina is suffering from leg swelling and she was effectively deprived of sleep.

    Maria Butina has been experiencing health problems in jail, yet she has been deprived of proper treatement, her lawyer, Robert Driscoll told RT. Maria has a “history of problems” with one of her legs and bad prison conditions triggered swelling of her limb.

    “The conditions in prison in which [she was] on the cold side because of very strong air conditioning and also humid and damp, I think that has exacerbated the swelling. And so she sought treatments for that and so far she’s just received Tylenol and nothing else,” Driscoll sad.

    Butina is also “a little bit frustrated” with the treatment she met in the so-called “protective custody,” the lawyer said, namely with 15-minute checks at night, which disrupted her sleep. In “protective custody” a prisoner is segregated from the general population of a jail, especially if other inmates threaten the said prisoner, or he has shown suicide tendencies.

    Maria has been transferred overnight to another prison. Driscoll is still unaware of the reasons behind the decision, yet it might have been caused by Butina’s complaints over harsh conditions.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/436290-butina...leep-medicine/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Or perhaps you simply prefer the current AntRobertson style slag festivals?
    errrrr

    no

    im certainly not the one in this conversation who brings up ant in every other post

    obsession is an ugly thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    "People in Russia are tortured all the time"

    "People in the USA are forced to pay taxes all the time"

    Do you see any similarities?

    Russians pay taxes as well. At risk of going of topic, all nations have tax of some sort. So Earl, exactly what sort of system do you have in mind where folks are not taxed?

    I do agree, folks should have the right to have a more direct say on how tax money is spent as practiced in Switzerland.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Queue the usual suspects to scream “but Gitmo!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Russians pay taxes as well. At risk of going of topic, all nations have tax of some sort. So Earl, exactly what sort of system do you have in mind where folks are not taxed?

    I do agree, folks should have the right to have a more direct say on how tax money is spent as practiced in Switzerland.
    What a cool question, I had fun thinking about it some.
    Problem is I ain't smart enough to have anything more than an outline given the enormous complexities involved.

    Given the new crypto technology which gives humanity a trust-less means of commerce concept like Bitcoin.

    Some sort of system could be layered on the Bitcoin blockchain and/or others to establish a taxation method based on consumption/conservation.

    This revolutionary technology/concept could easily allow a complete re-write of human culture away from the known war and greed which dominates presently.
    Resource management and stewardship of the planet could be guiding paradigms.
    The feature of these trust-less technologies is freedom from the greedy power hungry entities who currently control the resources.
    Where free energy is a threat to the ruling powers.
    There is some evidence of a free energy technology just waiting for us.

    The blockchain Bitcoin technology is real window into this future, by removing the power from those who enslave with central banks war levy taxation.

    Someone of the smart young fellers should write the books and software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Queue the usual suspects to scream “but Gitmo!”
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    When placing that "breath-taking" discovery thread have you considered - with some kind of satisfaction, self-complacency - that the unlawful, illegal and internationally condemned torturing facility at Cuba's Guantánamo Bay (beside Abu Graib, Bkk, Poland, Rumania, you name it) will be considered less atrocious, therefore exonerated from questions of guilt?

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    Let me get this straight. There is a problem in the Russian prison system with people being tortured occurring currently.

    People on this thread don’t think this is worthy news because Americans are taxed and Gitmo and the Butina woman is cold in August while in detention.

    Are you lot saying this isn’t true or that it’s ok because “shit happens”?

    Why so fast to look the other way?
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    Leaked Video Blows Lid off Torture in Russian Prisons

    State Protection Required for Lawyer and Inmate who Exposed Torture in Yaroslavl Prison

    That torture is rampant in many Russian prisons and detention facilities, with little consequences for perpetrators, is widely known among Russia’s human rights defenders, lawyers, and journalists. Last week the United Nation’s expert torture-monitoring body completed its periodic review of Russia, noting “there was reliable information that torture was practiced widely in the country.”


    But last week a scandal brought torture in prison to the public eye, leading to something extraordinary for Russia: a vigorous investigation, suspensions, and arrests for the perpetrators.


    In June 2017, the Russian human rights group Public Verdict came into possession of a gruesome video showing 18 prison officials in penal colony No. 1 in Yaroslavl, northeast of Moscow, torturing an inmate, Evgeny Makarov. The video was recorded by a body-worn camera of an unidentified person present at the scene.


    Irina Biryukova, a lawyer with Public Verdict representing Makarov, immediately reported it to the authorities. Makarov was then transferred to penal colony No. 8, where Public Verdict reports he continued to be tortured and threatened with rape. No criminal case was launched. An official who reviewed the video said at the time that it showed no abuse of authority.


    Russian authorities reacted very differently after the video was made public a year later, by Russian independent newspaper Novaya Gazeta, which ran the story last week. The Federal Penitentiary Service initiated an internal investigation while Russia’s main investigative agency launched a criminal investigation into abuse of authority with the use of violence. All 17 of the prison guards identified in the video were suspended; six are currently in pre-trial custody and one placed under house arrest. A criminal case was initiated against the official who concluded, after reviewing the video a year ago, that it contained nothing unlawful.


    Meanwhile the lawyer, Irina Biryukova, received death threats and had to flee Russia with her 16-year-old daughter. She told me that to date she has not received a commitment from Russian law enforcement or other authorities that they will give her protection if she returned home. And Makarov remains extremely vulnerable to further torture and retaliation in prison. That needs to change – and soon. Both need effective guarantees of their safety. If Russia really intends to end torture, victims and individuals brave enough to expose it must be protected.

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/07/30/...ussian-prisons

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    And just how many people are killed by American Police each year?

    I'd be looking at US torture systems before the Russian system.

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    ^ For Christ’s sake. Once again, why not look at what is a huge problem in Russia. We have whole threads discussing American police abuses.

    Why can’t you lot admit a problem in Russia?

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    Most probably because torture exists in most countries around the world,though the main stream media wish to focus on the boogie am on a constant basis though ignoring there own problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Most probably because torture exists in most countries around the world,though the main stream media wish to focus on the boogie am on a constant basis though ignoring there own problems.
    The mainstrem media was nothing but Gitmo a few years back. Plenty of threads here started by Kitt as I recall. Russia is not being picked on. Just media covering same sort of stuff they always cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post



    Meduza started and supported by Putin opposition - including the CIA





    Please try harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BelAir View Post
    Meduza started and supported by Putin opposition - including the CIA
    Link or it ain’t so.

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    Link AND it ain't so, often enough.

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    Who cares the source. If true it is news worthy. This source ok.

    https://www.rt.com/news/434017-russi...torture-probe/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    And just how many people are killed by American Police each year?

    I'd be looking at US torture systems before the Russian system.
    And don't forget the 'War on Drugs' catastrophe which kills and incarcerates thousands every year.

    And of course the opioid epidemic of death which is propped up by a legalized pharmaceutical industry. Part of the death industry which owns the US government.

    Seems the American people have more to worry about than the Russians...

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