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    Is the rise of hard line right wing politics something to be concerned about?

    For me it's a massive yes, the rise in the popularity of the far right/ alt right/UKIP/EDL etc really does concern me. Rather than taking control of the often long parade of life failure this grotesque ilk of society see fit to blame others or yell about brown people. Right wing politician often pray on the poorest of society, feeding them a rose tinted flashback to the falsely labeled "glory days" of empire when the world was imperial pink, I find it pretty nauseating. Right Wing media often presents authority figures as something we must respect blindly (just look at the piterful braying from Trumpflakes in the USA and Kippers in the UK), I find this to be a very slippery slope; authority needs constant scrutiny and critique, if we don't have that we have a dictatorship.

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    This idiot deserved it




    Then he goes to Essex and declares himself a fan of Basildon group Depeche Mode (one of my favourite bands)

    Great reaction from the group




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Right Wing media often presents authority figures as something we must respect blindly
    Left and right both do that. As long as the authority figure is one of their own.

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    It does seem to be rather a theme across Europe (and to an extent, the visible part of US politics).

    I guess the only real worry is that if it does lead to another World War this time we're all probably toast.

    In which case the only issue is: Will we get ample notice?

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    The eternal laws of physics. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The West so dominated by the left is now experiencing this. I predict there will be a swing to the right before equalibrium is achieved. Apologies for sounding like that FW jeff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    The West so dominated by the left is now experiencing this.
    That is not true in America nor is it the case in many European nations. Of all the first world nations no other nation is as far to the right as the US. Here dogma and racism are huge influencing factors in politics. There are no political parties in the western world that refuse to accept the science of climate change except for one. The US Republican party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    The eternal laws of physics. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
    Conspire to topple the government of Syria causing a massive wave of Moslem refugees to enter Europe. General public panics and elects fascists who promise to eject them.

    Conspire to topple the government of Libya leaving a lawless state which acts as a commercial waystation for African economic migrants, funneling them onwards to Southern Europe. General public panics and elects fascists etc...

    The damage has been done, but jailing some of those politicians responsible for the mess in Syria and Libya might cause others to hesitate before accepting sponsorship from the Saudis in future. Tony Blair to The Hague.
    Last edited by Begbie; 06-07-2018 at 09:14 AM.

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    Extremes of any kind should be dismissed. The problem lies in the center where snowflakes are busy virtue signaling each other, and being ignored by the extremities.

    Dont give them the satisfaction. Ignore them all and crack on regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    That is not true in America nor is it the case in many European nations. Of all the first world nations no other nation is as far to the right as the US. Here dogma and racism are huge influencing factors in politics. There are no political parties in the western world that refuse to accept the science of climate change except for one. The US Republican party.
    The Australian liberal party are in many cases closet climate change skeptics. I dont think climate change is necessarily a left issue outside of the USA. In fairness European politics is different in most countries to the USA with a few exceptions.The Democrats on many issues would be considered to the right of political thought in many European countries. I've always seen the democrats as closer to the Australian liberal party than the Australian Labour party. It's not that long ago members of the Australian Labor party still addressed each other as comrade. Begbies' post is quite relevant in that much of the push to the right came after many on the left thought Europe could absorb waves of Muslim and black African migrants. Many white ethnic Europeans on the other hand saw it as an existential crisis of culture and way of life.

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    The problem is balaclava clad lefties hitting a guy and running off makes them just as volatile and unacceptable as the far rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    The Democrats on many issues would be considered to the right of political thought in many European countries.
    Yes I totally agree with that as I posted America sadly is far to the right compared to all other western countries. A consequence of a two party system and a billionaire class that is largely libertarian.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Begbies' post is quite relevant
    Agreed he was spot on but I must say that many Eastern European nations had far right governments before the migration crisis.

    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong View Post
    The problem is balaclava clad lefties hitting a guy and running off makes them just as volatile and unacceptable as the far rights.
    I am sorry but that is a false equivalence. I would assume you are talking about antifa. I do not know about you but I personally fully support punching Nazi's in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie View Post
    Conspire to topple the government of Syria causing a massive wave of Moslem refugees to enter Europe.

    The damage has been done, but jailing some of those politicians responsible for the mess in Syria and Libya might cause others to hesitate before accepting

    sponsorship from the Saudis in future.
    Putin caused the mess in Syria. I couldn't agree more that he should be in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong View Post
    The problem is balaclava clad lefties hitting a guy and running off makes them just as volatile and unacceptable as the far rights.
    I agree, and I don't. I'm largely against violence, after-all in if I got in a fight with some Nazi I'd be stomped in seconds. But should the Jewish Resistance movement just let the Nazis walk all over them? The Nazi ideology is one so full of hate and stupidity it needs slapping down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    I agree, and I don't. I'm largely against violence, after-all in if I got in a fight with some Nazi I'd be stomped in seconds. But should the Jewish Resistance movement just let the Nazis walk all over them? The Nazi ideology is one so full of hate and stupidity it needs slapping down
    Would take it that you feel countries like Japan are in fact Nazi states, puts the nation and it's people first, ergo national socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Putin caused the mess in Syria
    Without him, the country could long ago be already democratisized, getting a new democratic leader, something like they have it now in Ukraine...

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    The so-called far right,don't have to panic when you have groups like this,desecrating christian symbols,in Christian countries


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    The so-called far right,don't have to panic when you have groups like this,desecrating christian symbols,in Christian countries

    I suppose desecrating religious symbols is more barbaric than destroying peaceful citizens, their children, their brothers, their sisters, their fathers, their mothers, their homes, there schools, their hospitals, their roads, their water supplies, their electricity supply systems ............ eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    The so-called far right,don't have to panic when you have groups like this,desecrating christian symbols,in Christian countries
    Did you actually watch the video? That happened in Algeria.

    https://stepfeed.com/extremist-vanda...-arrested-0131

    And the best I can tell, Algeria isn't a Christian country.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeria#Religion

    Doesn't excuse the guy for damaging the statue, but it also doesn't excuse you for spreading bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I suppose desecrating religious symbols is more barbaric than destroying peaceful citizens, their children, their brothers, their sisters, their fathers, their mothers, their homes, there schools, their hospitals, their roads, their water supplies, their electricity supply systems ............ eh?
    You mean the same thing the migrants do in many countries now.?

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    The Damn vid said Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barty View Post
    Did you actually watch the video? That happened in Algeria.

    https://stepfeed.com/extremist-vanda...-arrested-0131

    And the best I can tell, Algeria isn't a Christian country.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeria#Religion

    Doesn't excuse the guy for damaging the statue, but it also doesn't excuse you for spreading bullshit.
    Chico is an absolute idiot. Do you really expect anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    I agree, and I don't. I'm largely against violence, after-all in if I got in a fight with some Nazi I'd be stomped in seconds. But should the Jewish Resistance movement just let the Nazis walk all over them? The Nazi ideology is one so full of hate and stupidity it needs slapping down
    You sound like you are talking in 1933 (and I dont mean just gone half past seven)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    The Damn vid said Italy.
    You utter moron.

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    The rise of hard line right wing politics is just the opposite of voter apathy.

    Be careful what you wish for.

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