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    Nation attempts to interfere in sovereign nations government.

    Is this hypocritical or what?

    I can only assume hes doing that on behalf of the U.S. government. If not then that begs a question.
    Trump lawyer speaks at Paris event staged by MeK, once listed as terrorist organisation and widely seen as a personality cult
    Rudy Giuliani calls for Iran regime change at rally linked to extreme group.
    Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, addressed a rally staged by an extreme Iranian opposition group in Paris on Saturday, calling for regime change in Tehran.


    Giuliani spoke to the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), an umbrella coalition largely controlled by the Mujahedin-e-Khalq (MeK), which was once listed as a terrorist organisation in the US and Europe and is still widely viewed as a Marxist-Islamist cult built around the personality of its leader, Maryam Rajavi.


    “We are now realistically being able to see an end to the regime in Iran,” Giuliani told a crowd of about 4,000, many of them refugees and young eastern Europeans who had been bussed in to attend the rally in return for a weekend trip to Paris.


    “The mullahs must go, the ayatollah must go, and they must be replaced by a democratic government which Madam Rajavi represents,” Giuliani said. “Freedom is right around the corner ... Next year I want to have this convention in Tehran!”


    The former New York mayor, who became a cyber security adviser in the White House before being named as Trump’s personal lawyer in April, is one of a long line of American conservative hawks to attend the NCRI annual conference. Another prominent guest on Saturday was Newt Gingrich, a former House speaker and a close Trump ally.


    In his speech, Giuliani said the fall of the government in Tehran would be brought about by economic isolation.


    “When the greatest economic power stops doing business with you, then you collapse ... and the sanctions will become greater, greater and greater,” he said.


    Freedom is right around the corner​! Next year I want to have this convention in Tehran!
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    In May, Trump abrogated the 2015 international nuclear deal with Iran and ordered a campaign of intense economic pressure, threatening sanctions against any foreign company doing business with Iran and calling for an end to trade in Iranian oil by November. Giuliani suggested that the current wave of protests in Iran was being orchestrated from outside.


    “Those protests are not happening spontaneously,” Giuliani said. “They are happening because of many of our people in Albania [which hosts an MeK compound] and many of our people here and throughout out the world.”
    It was unclear whether “our people” was intended to mean the US or the MeK.


    The guest of honour at last year’s NCRI conference was John Bolton, who has since become Trump’s third national security adviser. Bolton told the 2017 rally US policy should be to make sure the Islamic Republic “will not last until its 40th birthday” –1 April 2019.

    The policy of the Trump administration is not officially to call for regime change, though top officials have often hinted at it. Outlining his approach in May, the secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, said it was up to the Iranian people to relieve the pressure on the country by changing their government.

    Giuliani was one of 33 senior US officials and military brass at the year’s conference on Saturday. Bill Richardson, former US ambassador to the United Nations, US energy secretary and Democratic governor of New Mexico, was also in attendance.
    Stephen Harper, former prime minister of Canada, also delivered a speech advocating regime change in Iran.

    It was unclear if the speakers at the Saturday conference were paid. The NCRI and MeK have been known for paying very high fees.
    Most observers of Iranian politics say the MeK has minimal support in Iran and is widely hated for its use of violence and close links to Israeli intelligence.
    In sweltering temperatures on Saturday, around 4,000 people arrived by bus at the Parc des expositions centre. Many were draped in the MeK flag, which replaces the sign for “Allah” on the Iranian flag with a yellow lion. Others wore yellow sun hats displaying the hashtag “#Maryam Rajavi”.
    Around half of the attendees were Iranian. The other half consisted of an assortment of bored-looking Poles, Czechs, Slovakians, Germans and Syrians who responded to a Facebook campaign promising travel, food and accommodation to Paris for a mere €25. Hundreds of Syrian refugees settled in Germany also attended. Many snoozed under trees during speeches.
    “We saw the deal on Facebook and we agreed to come on a holiday,” said a young Syrian mother as she sat on the conference floor, fanning her two young children. “I have never seen Paris. I don’t know anything about the MeK.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...an-paris-rally
    "In my professional assessment as an intelligence officer, Trump has a reflexive, defensive, monumentally narcissistic personality, for whom the facts and national interest are irrelevant, and the only thing that counts is whatever gives personal advantage and directs attention to himself."

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    Another "exceptional" American from an "exceptional" country. We'll do whatever we want because we're exceptional. Credibility = zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    The NCRI and MeK have been known for paying very high fees.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Most observers of Iranian politics say the MeK has minimal support in Iran and is widely hated for its use of violence and close links to Israeli intelligence.
    High speaking fees, Israel...nuff said.

    Giulianni's is too far gone to have any clue what he's talking about


    “When the greatest economic power stops doing business with you, then you collapse ... and the sanctions will become greater, greater and greater,” he said.
    Pretty sure the PRC is still trading with them

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    Considering he's an idiot and a drunk, it's fairly obvious that he believes all the horseshit Bolton has been whispering in his hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Another "exceptional" American from an "exceptional" country. We'll do whatever we want because we're exceptional. Credibility = zero.
    ....and have a long and rich history of meddling and interventions, in one form or another.
    It's what they do - extension of the rogue empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    ....and have a long and rich history of meddling and interventions, in one form or another.
    It's what they do - extension of the rogue empire.
    But "they" is only a handful of arseholes who probably have a vested interest in starting another war.

    Most Americans couldn't even point out Iran on a map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    But "they" is only a handful of arseholes who probably have a vested interest in starting another war.

    Most Americans couldn't even point out Iran on a map.

    Sure....as most are oblivious to any of this historic and continuous activity in their name.
    Goes without saying that Yanks are terribly ignorant of such affairs and the world, for that matter.

    Even less conscious regarding the hundreds of standing military facilities/presence worldwide.
    Yet, engage in inconsequential and hypocritical protest and punditry that has less to do with anything.

    The broad dumbed-down class.

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    Derp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Sure....as most are oblivious to any of this historic and continuous activity in their name.
    Not so true. They are tired of Americans coming home in bodybags, hence the need for baldy orange cunto to continue reinventing the imaginary "war on terror".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    In May, Trump abrogated the 2015 international nuclear deal with Iran and ordered a campaign of intense economic pressure, threatening sanctions against any foreign company doing business with Iran and calling for an end to trade in Iranian oil by November.
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    an "exceptional" country. We'll do whatever we want because we're exceptional. Credibility = zero.

    Black Cube: Inside the shadowy Israeli firm accused of trying to undermine the Iran deal
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/b...e-iran-n877511

    An NBC News investigation reveals a business intelligence company with governmental contracts and a special department for politically motivated work.

    Really surprised that NBC did this story...some kind of counter-spin op?


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Not so true. They are tired of Americans coming home in bodybags, hence the need for baldy orange cunto to continue reinventing the imaginary "war on terror".
    Has nothing to do with a standing President, as they're all just as evil and guilty of perpetuating the business of empire - for decades upon decades.

    And Americans are quite blindly acceptant to the chaos that "they" create.
    Part and parcel of the existence of fantasy that is preferred.

    Not buying the scheme of "tired of Americans coming home in bodybags" line...
    Buncha bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Has nothing to do with a standing President
    Yep because short sited morons like yourself do not think about the fact that the current president nominates the supreme court justices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Not buying the scheme of "tired of Americans coming home in bodybags" line...
    Buncha bullshit.
    More like tired of Americans getting carpal tunnel syndrome from Drone Wars...

    Drone Pilots Sue Over Carpal-Tunnel Neglect
    https://www.themideastbeast.com/dron...unnel-neglect/

    But seriously:

    The Warfare May Be Remote But The Trauma Is Real
    https://www.npr.org/2017/04/24/52541...trauma-is-real
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Has nothing to do with a standing President
    It had everything to do with Bush and the people pulling his strings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    More like tired of Americans getting carpal tunnel syndrome from Drone Wars...

    Drone Pilots Sue Over Carpal-Tunnel Neglect
    https://www.themideastbeast.com/dron...unnel-neglect/

    But seriously:

    The Warfare May Be Remote But The Trauma Is Real
    https://www.npr.org/2017/04/24/52541...trauma-is-real
    Not sure they can bring down the Iranian mullahs with drones though (not they could do it with boots on the ground, but the bodycount would be a lot less).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Not buying the scheme of "tired of Americans coming home in bodybags" line...
    Buncha bullshit.
    The bodies coming home in bodybags are not always of American citizens...

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