Thread: Report: Alabama Mall Banned Roy Moore in the ’80s for Pursuing Teens

The evidence keeps piling up.


Roy Moore, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Alabama, was banned from a mall in the early 1980s after he repeatedly attempted to pick up teenage girls, former mall employees and local police told The New Yorker. Other locals also told AL.com that Moore was known for prowling the mall. Moore, whom five women have accused of making advances on them or molesting them when they were teenagers, allegedly had a reputation for hanging around the Gadsden Mall, in Gadsden, Alabama, in pursuit of high school-age girls.

One former mall employee told The New Yorker that a security guard asked mall employees to be on the lookout for Moore, who was “banned from the mall.” Blake Usry, who was a teenager in town at the time, told AL.com Moore was known to "flirt with all the young girls," and would hang out at the mall on weekends "like the kids did."

Other locals told AL.com that Moore's penchant for flirting with teens was common knowledge in town. One former waitress told AL.com that Moore made young waitresses uncomfortable by staring at them, then becoming rude if they did not "give him an opening." A police officer, one of two who spoke with The New Yorker, said that “general knowledge at the time when I moved here was that this guy is a lawyer cruising the mall for high-school dates” and that Moore may not have received an official ban but was a persona non grata at the mall and had been “run off” from “a number of stores.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/report...pursuing-teens

Roy Moore, the Republican Senate candidate and former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, was born in Gadsden, a small city flanked by Interstate 59 and the Coosa River, an hour northeast of Birmingham. Gadsden is hilly, woodsy, blue-collar, and religious. “LEGAL OR NOT, SIN IS SIN,” a sign in front of a church announced yesterday. I saw it as I drove around, crisscrossing George Wallace Drive. I also saw Trump posters, Confederate flags, and dozens of signs for Doug Jones, the Democrat tied with Moore in recent Senate-race polls. Gadsden is the seat of Etowah County, which is a conservative place; Donald Trump received three times as many votes in the county as Hillary Clinton did. (Statewide, he received twice as many.) But I didn’t, in all my driving, see a single yard sign for Moore, the home-town son. Even the parking lot of the one mall in town had more bumper stickers for Luther Strange (four), Moore’s opponent in the Republican primary, than for Moore himself (one).

The Gadsden Mall opened in 1974. It has two department stores, Belk and Sears, one on each end. Between them, on Sunday night, I walked past Books-A-Million, Cellular Solutions, a Japanese steak house, Great American Cookies, Blacklight Mini-Golf, KnockerBall Gadsden, an eyebrow-styling kiosk, and a clothing store for young girls, called Justice. A diverse assortment of families wandered around the place, which felt trapped in time. Two young security guards made their rounds. “It gets rough in here on Saturday nights,” one of them told me, mentioning fighting, stealing, and gun-toting. “We still have an active ban list,” the other said, referencing a list of chronic rule-breakers not allowed on mall property. “But it doesn’t go back that far.”

He meant back to the early eighties, when Roy Moore was, many people say, a regular visitor to the mall. On Thursday, the Washington Post reported that, when Moore was a thirty-two-year-old assistant district attorney in Etowah County, he brought Leigh Corfman, who was fourteen years old at the time, to his home and sexually molested her. Three additional women told the Post that Moore had pursued them when they were in their teens and he was in his early thirties. (On Monday, another woman, Beverly Young Nelson, said that Moore assaulted her when she was sixteen years old. At a press conference, she held up a high-school yearbook that she said Moore signed before the alleged assault.) Two of the women say that they first met Moore at the Gadsden Mall, and the Post reports that several other women who used to work there remembered Moore’s frequent presence—“usually alone” and “well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt.”

This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls.” Jones told me that she couldn’t confirm the alleged mall banning, but said, “It’s a rumor I’ve heard for years.

”Greg Legat, who is now fifty-nine and living in East Gadsden, was, from 1981 to 1985, an employee at the Record Bar, a store that was in the Gadsden Mall. By the early eighties, Legat told me, the mall was “the place to be. There were no empty stores. And lots of kids came around. Lots of teen-agers. You went there to see and be seen.” Legat met his wife, Jo Anne, there. She worked at a restaurant called Orange Bowl. Legat remembers that parents dropped their kids off at the mall, typically unchaperoned. Teens filled the place.

Legat says that he saw Moore there a few times, even though his understanding then was that he had already been banned. “It started around 1979, I think,” Legat said. “I know the ban was still in place when I got there.” Legat recalled a Gadsden police officer named J. D. Thomas, now retired, who worked security at the mall. “J. D. was a fixture there, when I was working at the store,” Legat said. “He really looked after the kids there. He was a good guy. J. D. told me, ‘If you see Roy, let me know. He’s banned from the mall.’ ” Legat recalled Thomas telling him, “If you see Moore here, tell me. I’ll take care of him.’ ” Legat said that his boss, Eddie Hill, also told him to look for Moore. A phone call to Hill’s number was not returned.

Reached by phone on Saturday, Thomas, who lives in the nearby town of Southside, declined to discuss the existence of a ban on Moore at the Gadsden Mall. “I don’t have anything to say about that,” he said. A former manager of the mall, who began working there in the late eighties, confirmed the existence of a ban list, but did not recall Moore being on the list during the manager’s tenure there. Barnes Boyle, who is eighty-six, also managed the mall, from 1981 to 1998. His wife, Brenda, told me that Moore was a longtime acquaintance of his—they went to the Y.M.C.A. together often—and that he planned to vote for him. The recent allegations against Moore, the Boyles thought, are likely liberal propaganda and, as Brenda put it, “a sign of the times.”

Jason Nelms, an I.T. worker who grew up in nearby Southside and now lives in Tennessee, regularly visited the Gadsden Mall as a teen-ager, in the early eighties. “It was a joke from one of the managers/assistant managers that they couldn’t keep an eye on their theater and an eye on the kids outside,” he explained to me via Facebook Messenger. “Us kids would congregate outside on the sidewalk near the theater after the mall closed on Friday and Saturday nights. Anyway, when asked why they had to keep an eye outside, they said that some older guy had been trying to pick up younger girls. They didn’t go beyond that but one of the concession workers whispered to us later that it was Roy Moore he was talking about.”

Gadsden’s current law-enforcement community could not confirm the existence of a mall ban on Moore. But two officers I spoke to this weekend, both of whom asked to remain unnamed, told me that they have long heard stories about Moore and the mall. “The general knowledge at the time when I moved here was that this guy is a lawyer cruising the mall for high-school dates,” one of the officers said. The legal age of consent in Alabama is sixteen, so it would not be illegal there for a man in his early thirties to date a girl who was, say, a senior in high school. But these officers, along with the other people I spoke to, said that Moore’s presence at the mall was regarded as a problem. “I was told by a girl who worked at the mall that he’d been run off from there, from a number of stores. Maybe not legally banned, but run off,” one officer told me. He also said, “I heard from one girl who had to tell the manager of a store at the mall to get Moore to leave her alone.”

The second officer went further. “A friend of mine told me he was banned from there,” he said. He added, “I actually voted for Moore. I liked him at one time. But I’m basically disgusted now, to be honest with you. Some of the things he’s said recently, I’ve changed my tune completely about this guy.” He went on, explaining why Moore no longer appeals to him. “When I heard what he said on ‘Hannity’ the other night,” he said, referring to an appearance Moore made on Sean Hannity’s radio show last Friday, “I almost stood straight up. The thing about how he’s never dated anybody without their mother’s permission, that appalled me. That made me want to throw up. Why would you need someone’s permission to date somebody? I’m probably gonna write in Luther Strange.”

Moore has mounted various defenses since the Post story appeared. Among these is his “special concern for the protection of young ladies,” as he put it to Hannity. The Fox News host pressed for specifics. “I don’t know Ms. Corfman from anybody,” Moore went on. “I never talked to her, never had any contact with her. Allegations of sexual misconduct with her are completely false. I believe they are politically motivated. I believe they are brought only to stop a very successful campaign, and that’s what they are doing. I’ve never known this woman.” When questioned about the other women cited in the Post story, he said that he couldn’t be expected to remember every woman he’d ever dated. “After my return from the military,” he said, “I dated a lot of young ladies.”

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...e-gadsden-mall

Moore's Dem rival has gained in the polls and with a month to go until the election (Dec 12th) if Moore stays in the race he'll likely lose (hence a loss for the GOP).

If he steps down, could there be an annointed replacement? Or, is it far too late for a quality candidate?


No, I'm not saying I support any GOP candidate over his Dem rival (I have no opinion on this race b/c I haven't been following it).

Originally Posted by Grampa

If he steps down, could there be an annointed replacement? Or, is it far too late for a quality candidate?

No it is to late to change the ballot now. They are talking about Luther Strange as a write in candidate but this will only help the Dem challenger. This is really an amazing situation. A month ago no one would have thought that the Dem's could steal a senate seat in the most conservative state in the union.

If this keeps going the way it looks the dems could have taken a massive step towards taking back the senate.

Originally Posted by bsnub

No it is to late to change the ballot now.

Thanks.

They are talking about Luther Strange as a write in candidate but this will only help the Dem challenger. This is really an amazing situation. A month ago no one would have thought that the Dem's could steal a senate seat in the most conservative state in the union.

If this keeps going the way it looks the dems could have taken a massive step towards taking back the senate.

Then, this seat will go to the Dems.

The mid-terms are still a year away.

There may be some interesting races coming up.

Looks like Turd the Turtle is throwing him under the bus now.

(WASHINGTON) — A second woman emerged Monday to accuse Roy Moore of sexually assaulting her as a teenager in the late 1970s, this time in a locked car, further roiling the Alabama Republican’s candidacy for an open Senate seat. Moore strongly denied it, even as his own party’s leaders intensified their efforts to push him out of the race.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell took a remarkably personal swipe at his party’s candidate for a Senate seat the GOP cannot afford to lose. “I believe the women,” he said, marking an intensified effort by leaders to ditch Moore before a Dec. 12 special election that has swung from an assured GOP victory to one that Democrats could conceivably swipe.

http://time.com/5022926/roy-more-lat.../?xid=homepage

It's OK because Mary was a teenager and she married Joesph, a grown man, and gave birth to the Sweet Baby Jesus* and even if Moore is guilty better to vote for him, a pedophile, than any Democrat**


















*An actual argument made in mitigation by some GOP fuckstick.

**Another actual point made by other GOP fucksticks.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

It's OK because Mary was a teenager and she married Joesph, a grown man, and gave birth to the Sweet Baby Jesus* and even if Moore is guilty better to vote for him, a pedophile, than any Democrat**

But, as Bill Maher pointed out, Jesus didn't actually fuck Mary.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Jesus didn't actually fuck Mary.

yes - it is written in the good book that mary strapped on the plastic

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But, as Bill Maher pointed out, Jesus didn't actually fuck Mary.

Why would she fuck her own son? Not entirely sure why you freudian-slipped into an incest reference there but Maher was referring to JOSEPH and Mary.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Why would she fuck her own son? Not entirely sure why you freudian-slipped into an incest reference there but Maher was referring to JOSEPH and Mary.

Yes mea culpa.

My Freudian slip is showing.



I did of course mean that Joseph didn't actually fuck Mary.

Although I still think him swallowing the bit about her actually getting up the duff from a ghost does not reflect well on him.

Personally, I would have had my beady eye on the sparky.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But, as Bill Maher pointed out, Jesus didn't actually fuck Mary.

Dude, Mary was Jesus' mom.

Originally Posted by Grampa

Dude, Mary was Jesus' mom.

I'm glad you're keeping up with the thread as usual CP.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I did of course mean that Joseph didn't actually fuck Mary.

Neither did gawd...

RNC cuts off Moore

The national party pulls out of a fundraising pact with the Alabama candidate, further isolating him.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...f-moore-244904

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Turd the Turtle

I thought Beauregard Sessions was The Turtle?

The dude is toast. He could still win given the numb skull electorate. Hope he does so Republicans will be forced to boot his sorry ass out of Senate.

The thing about all of this is that his history and background should've disqualified him from holding office even before all these allegations came to light.

That they clearly didn't shows how utterly fucked politics in the U.S. has become.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

The thing about all of this is that his history and background should've disqualified him from holding office even before all these allegations came to light.

That they clearly didn't shows how utterly fucked politics in the U.S. has become.

Mai pen rai. Important is that it keeps the masses busy - and not to think about anything else (much more important for their cause)

This guy's a badun.

Roy Moore challenged Alabama law that protects rape victims, documents reveal

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-victims-judge

Originally Posted by Cujo

This guy's a badun.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-victims-judge

That's shows that the fictions by John Grisham (in fact from those South states) are not far from reality...

Originally Posted by Maanaam

I thought Beauregard Sessions was The Turtle?

Sessions is Granny Clampett.

^ OK. Fair calls.