...^agree: sometimes a month away from an election (as with Moore) is a long time...
This thread will be around for awhile clearly so we shall see.
Then they better fix it so they have a "decent" tax bill that will be passed.
A "decent" infrastucture bill will get plenty of Democratic support.
I do agree, the tax bill does have to provide revenue for the infrastructure bill.
The Republican congress has less than a year to pass a couple major pieces of legislation. Failure to do so and the Dems will gain big time in the House.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"
You are indeed. All ears with nothing to add but one liners that add zip to the debate.
Serious as a heat attack. You and your pal harry pro Dem, anti Republican, anti Trump partisan comments add nothing useful to the thread.
You're not alone. The pro Republican, Trump can do no wrong anti Dem crowd is just as bad. Both crowds here in our wee TD world reflect exactly what is wrong with the US political scene. Tedious and destructive for the country. Sad days now and bound to get worse.
Sorry fucko, but you chuck this shit around without any thought as to what it means and then try and call it "debate"?
The fact is that *any* Republican tax bill is about grabbing cash and handing it to corporate and billionaire sponsors (and, of course, trousering their share), whether it comes out of the middle class pocket or the debt.
They have no idea what a "decent" tax bill is.
So why the fuck do you think they would be interested in *any* kind of Infrastructure Bill unless it makes them money?
You're the one throwing around these stupid fucking one-line hypotheticals, no matter how far from reality they actually are:
Passing a significant infrastucture bill and a decent tax bill would go a long way in getting votes.
midterms are usually a "yay" or "nay" on the president, which is why republicans did so well after 2 years of obama (negative campaigning works well in mid-terms).
Democrats? Best Bet for 2018: Accentuate the Negative
Democrats’ Best Bet for 2018: Accentuate the Negative
wow! a.o. is participating in an actual speakers' corner discussion.
just wow!
rather than the usual dumb occasional insult like you usually do.
anyways, a.o.:
i didn't say it wasn't effective what the dems did in virginia.
ray was just having a hissy fit about my prediction that the dems would go negative:
true. any number of things could happen in the next 12 months. trump might even be out of office...or in jail.
if i were a gambling man, i'd probably put down a few baht on the dems taking back the house, but....you know...that whole 'eternity' thing.
if the tax bill goes down in flames, then i think the dems will walk away from the any infrastructure bill just to ensure they take back the house.
poor people in red states have voted against their own economic self interest for a couple of generations now....and these trumptards don't seem to care that they're being lied to.
no, midterms are usually against the party which holds the presidency. rarely does that party gain more seats.
the rich pay most of the taxes (everybody knows that), so however the republicans try to make the tax code more "fair", it'll be criticized for hurting somebody.
a simple fair tax code is mostly opposed by lobbyists who helped write the tax code which is 73,000 pages long.
anyways, if trump gets his corporate and small business tax breaks through
(his supporters were hyped on improving the economy and "making america great again"),
then the economy will be booming next year for the midterms and especially for the 2020 election.
The only problem is that it's all wind and piss and once again is designed to reward people like, well, Orange Cunto.
The trouble is that the thick trumpanzees that follow him will read "Average tax break will be $1000" or some such shite and believe that this equates to them getting a $1000.
Thick as fuck they are.
But they won't.
If you look historically, the greatest economic growth comes when tax is at its highest.
This "trickle down" bollocks doesn't work, they just trouser it and stash it in the Caymans.
If tax revenue is invested (in things like - wait for it - Infrastructure), everyone benefits.
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